Can you dodge PC?

rofl don't you think anyone has thought of that? Don't you think betfair know people have thought of that and know how to detect them?

Following the tipster gaze pre race selections would ensure that no PC would ever be paid.

NO, And do not try. The Ai and the algorithms Bet fair use are so sophisticated now it wouldn't be worth it. You would lose your account for good. You cannot cheat the system now.

Poor Bait imo.

I don't care if betfair has thought of that. There is nothing in terms and conditions that says that if one member of a family pays PC, all new accounts from that household also have to pay PC.

@Trident why would I lose my account? Let's say I win 200k. My brother says "hey this betting thing seems pretty profitable, I'll make my own account and you can send me some tips" and then what, we both get banned forever because my brother's account doesn't pay PC?

There is nothing in terms and conditions

yes there is



9.8.2 In circumstances where Betfair is satisfied that multiple accounts have been used by one person or group of persons in order to avoid or reduce liability for the Premium Charge, Betfair shall be entitled to treat those accounts as if they relate to one person for the purposes of calculating Premium Charges. In such circumstances Betfair shall link those accounts and the linked accounts shall be jointly and severally liable for any unpaid Premium Charge. The Premium Charge will be debited from any such account(s) where applicable.

Gaze...what you say makes absolute sense. BUT, your 'brother's' betting patterns would be the same as yours and the BF programmes would very quickly spot that.

Their programmes are hugely sophisticated and are able to even calculate the chances of two different people, unknown to one another, both betting in the same way - which could happen.

Then, as Dave1357 points out, in comes rule 9.8.2. In the end, this site is owned by Betfair and, whether they are fair or not, it is up to them what rules they invent and then apply.

ok if they eventually link the accounts for PC, fair enough, at least I won't lose the accounts. And I I'm crafty I'll make the betting patterns different.

But if the charge would be retroactive that's not fair. let's say I fool the algos for 5 years and then they say I owe 300k in unpaid charges.

Crafty Einstein post on the Betfair forum that u want to gain the system.

Would have thought anyone asking these questions would be better using private or personal mails rather than surface above the radar on a public forum.

If you weren't on the radar or flagged before you may well be now , i know Betfair don't read the forum but they're bound to get feedback from the outsources as they'd judge it as potential fraud from their perspective.

You barely see a PC these days.

if their algos are as smart as you say it doesn't matter if I post here

Betfair must be crying with laughter reading this thread

Gaze is not even paying PC on his own losing account, and he's already talking about a 2nd account being charged PC

i remember on ebay or gumtree asking to buy accounts, no idea why

you buy their account but you also have to move into their house.

and sleep with their wife ?

depends how big the losses.

quite a good haul from the resident forum spazmoid.

Can you dodge PC ?  Gaze733

this from the clown that posts an edited p&l and screenshots of unsubmitted bets...

gaze.do us all a favour ysc and F0@d.

The more i read of Gaze"s immature and ridiculous posts , the more i think he /she must be on the wind up . A complete and utter imbecile .

I dont care if ewe lick windows..run into walls..occasionally urinate yourself..hang in there gaazoo...you're something speshull.

And I I'm crafty I'll make the betting patterns different.