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Rico-Dangleflaps
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Report .Marksman. July 1, 2023 3:32 PM BST
Spencer deserves a long ban for this.  It was awful.  Imagine being a jock on his inside!
Report Storm Alert July 1, 2023 3:32 PM BST
Amazed if he doesn't keep it, but did cause a fair bit of interference. Frank Spencer ride there on clearly the best horse.
Report Ramruma July 1, 2023 3:32 PM BST
It's what I've always said, Spencer can't keep them straight.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 1, 2023 3:33 PM BST
Ooh betty
Report OVERSEAS July 1, 2023 3:33 PM BST
a few amount of carnage , 20s on seems very short though will keep no doubt , no play my end
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 3:34 PM BST
Back (Bet For)
Odds
Stake
Profit
Via Sistina
1.04
£5,250.00
£215.58
Total stake:
£5,250.00

spencer had whip in correct hand but horse kept lugging right..no fault of jockey ansolutely free money.
Report Storm Alert July 1, 2023 3:35 PM BST
If you backed easy enough to lay at 1.04, just in case...
Report duffy July 1, 2023 3:36 PM BST
Surprising that the market on the 2nd near the line wasn't trading shorter because of the inevitable stewards.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 3:36 PM BST
Marksman. 01 Jul 23 15:32 
Spencer deserves a long ban for this.  It was awful.  Imagine being a jock on his inside!


he had his whip in right hand and horse kept lugging right..what you want him to do?
Report Regbutler July 1, 2023 3:38 PM BST
Gl Wazza
Sitting this one out, but I'd be laying not backing at 1.04/1.05
Report Regbutler July 1, 2023 3:40 PM BST
Squeezed up the eventual 4th as well
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 3:41 PM BST
but its won 3L.
Report JPSER July 1, 2023 3:42 PM BST
interesting
Report thurnscoe thunder July 1, 2023 3:42 PM BST
Cant imagine it will be chucked Rico, easily the best horse has won the race.
When did it become keeping your whip in the hand the horse is hanging into is acceptable race riding though ?
Whip has to be put down and both hands on the reigns giving maximum assistance to straighten the horse up, not keep hitting it whilst it hangs with one hand on the reign trying to straighten it.
Deffo nice ban coming up for some sort of careless, reckless, or dangerous riding imo
Report JPSER July 1, 2023 3:43 PM BST
makes me wonder, whats the largest winning distance youve ever seen one being overturned in the UK?
Report Regbutler July 1, 2023 3:43 PM BST
Suspended
Report Gagging July 1, 2023 3:44 PM BST
Its Irish stewarding - they could decide they don't want a non-O'Brien winner especially not if English-trained.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 3:44 PM BST
reckless, or dangerous riding imo

1000/1

if either its chucked..ewe shud be laying 1.04
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 3:47 PM BST
result stands..some clueless people commenting here again..

cringe.
Report Gagging July 1, 2023 3:48 PM BST
But they probably would find it difficult to disqualify both the first two, so may give up and let it stand!!
Report Regbutler July 1, 2023 3:50 PM BST
Well done Rico
Bit unfair comment about clueless people
Most of us thinking it would stand, but 20s on just too short to play
Report hulk23 July 1, 2023 3:50 PM BST
spencer knew what he was doing, and he knows the rules.  was a cracking ride, form a queue.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 3:51 PM BST
thurnscoe thunder 01 Jul 23 15:42 
Cant imagine it will be chucked Rico, easily the best horse has won the race.
When did it become keeping your whip in the hand the horse is hanging into is acceptable race riding though ?
Whip has to be put down and both hands on the reigns giving maximum assistance to straighten the horse up, not keep hitting it whilst it hangs with one hand on the reign trying to straighten it.
Deffo nice ban coming up for some sort of careless, reckless, or dangerous riding imo

how longs he been watching racing?
Report Storm Alert July 1, 2023 3:54 PM BST
JPSER - makes me wonder, whats the largest winning distance youve ever seen one being overturned in the UK?

The most famous I can remember was Royal Gait won the Ascot Gold Cup by five lengths (in a course record time) and getting disqualified for colliding with horse dropping back fast through the field fast and the rider unseated about tow furlongs out. Total disgrace it was.

Also remember a horse called something like Le Gran Braun, being disqualified after winning a hurdle race by lengths in the 80's, for crossing a horse jumping the last hurdle.
Report OVERSEAS July 1, 2023 3:57 PM BST
second your last comment Regbutler
Report JPSER July 1, 2023 3:59 PM BST
I started gambling mid 90s, and I dont recall ever seeing any horse being DQ who has won by over a length or so. im probably wrong and there has been in that time.

last price matched on Via Sistina was 1.07, and it won by 2 lengths. thats a crazy price to me
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 4:00 PM BST
anyone who thort that was reckless, or dangerous riding,deserves to be called clueless.

IMO.
Report Regbutler July 1, 2023 4:01 PM BST
Storm, jpser...
Along the same lines
One went my way a few months back at Taunton?, I think
My horse cut up on the final bend, 3 or 4 furlongs out
Still 2 hurdles to jump
Went head to head with the offender right up to the line, lost a neck?
Reversed... To my delight
Wazza going mad on here I recall
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 1, 2023 4:05 PM BST
Royal gait, remember it wellSad



https://youtu.be/JYBK37DZ8C4
Report thurnscoe thunder July 1, 2023 4:05 PM BST
At what point did I call it reckless or dangerous ?

Why did you omit the careless bit ???

If anyone is clueless its the idiots who think Spencer did all he could under race riding

How long you been watching racing and dont realise they have to stop whipping and put both hands on the reinsSurprised

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Marksman. 01 Jul 23 15:32
Spencer deserves a long ban for this.  It was awful.  Imagine being a jock on his inside!


he had his whip in right hand and horse kept lugging right..what you want him to do?
Report thurnscoe thunder July 1, 2023 4:07 PM BST
Deffo nice ban coming up for some sort of careless, reckless, or dangerous riding imo

Thats what I put, I simply wasnt second guessing what the stewards would think, but simply said earlier he didnt do all he could and questioned where you thought he did all he could.

Also stated it was much the best horse and wouldnt get chucked
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 4:09 PM BST
Deffo nice ban coming up for some sort of careless, reckless, or dangerous riding imo

its 1000/1 to be reckless or dangerous..didnt you realise? how long ewe watched horse racing?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 4:12 PM BST
its a gr1..

the horse was coming forward at at pace..he had his whip in his right hand..as it edged right he gave it a smack down its left shoulder..it continued lugging left...by then its clear.
Report thurnscoe thunder July 1, 2023 4:13 PM BST
And if it had been chucked it would have been for one of those scenarios. Therefore at the time it was a relevant statement as the stewards hadnt ruled, even though as we all thought it wouldnt get chucked.

I never said he rode reckless or dangerous at any point and the fact I said i believed it wouldnt get chucked does tell anyone that I didnt think it was either of those 2 things.

Id like you to explain letting a horse hang into the whip and continuing with it is the best he could have done though
Report thurnscoe thunder July 1, 2023 4:17 PM BST
So by your judgement there wont be a ban coming as he did everything he could Surprised, he continued whipping the horse as it was hanging into the whip, not sure what pics you were watching, also no idea why you dont think he should stop whipping and correct his mount with both hands on the reins

We will see whos clueless then when the report comes
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 4:20 PM BST
prob will be a ban for careless cos as ewe sya the snowflakes will say should have stopped riding and corrected its path..

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Report Storm Alert July 1, 2023 4:32 PM BST
Stop squabbling. Laugh We all knew he would keep the race, it was just if 1.05 was value (if you had backed at morning prices an easy lay). Incoming ban for sure.
Report hulk23 July 1, 2023 4:36 PM BST
jockeys take a ban all day long.  10 days in barbados, need to take a break anyway.

sit next to the pool working out his cut of €180,000.00
Report duffy July 1, 2023 4:42 PM BST
500 on the 2nd approaching the line, traded out for a fish supper when the stewards openedHappy
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 4:44 PM BST
reckless/dangerous riding

Purposely interfering with another horse or rider, or; Riding in a way that is far below that of a competent and careful rider and where it would be obvious to such a competent or careful rider that riding in that way was likely to endanger the safety of a horse and rider.
Report thurnscoe thunder July 1, 2023 6:28 PM BST
6 days for careless riding
Report Rico-Dangleflaps July 1, 2023 6:41 PM BST
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