group 1 hoss

no entries for the horse

Probably beat a disappointing bunch very easily. The Nassau would seem the most sensible shout although they might be thinking of dropping Soul Sister back in trip. Thus far the staying fillies don't look an exceptional crop.

She could be supplemented for the Ribblesdale at a cost of £13,125.

J & T G have 3 similar types in the race + Soul and Running in Ribblesdale. One suspects the latter 2 will have bigger fish to fry. Shadwell don't have an entry

I see her as a 10 furlong max horse. Less better than further imo.

irish oaks the likely target according to the slim thady

Agree with Howard too much speed for 1 1/2

https://www.attheraces.com/news/2023/June/11/al-asifah-scorches-goodwood-turf---and-could-enter-classic-equation

Gold seems to be pushing for a mile and a half. Not sure what the evidence is for going up in trip? It wouldn't surprise me if the bookmakers collect a bit more ante-post money when they decide to stay at ten furlongs.

Probably; but hit the line hard and took some pulling up. I would not be inclined to dismiss 1m-4f this early in her career.

connections saying  or words to that effect 10f  ideal on breeding but they think she will get 12f, crowley also saying 12f ........when they say that treat with caution ,i wouldnt be punting ante post ,the way she won she will be no value anyway ,wait for the 2 day decs imo.

Irish Oaks.... then go from there.

That today was a better performance then Roaring Lion win at Newmarket over Sumo Sam. Sumo Sam was most probably further along today and was expected to go better then at HQ. She destroyed them without even breaking her rhythm. only 2nd run as well

I wouldn't use Sumo Sam as a yardstick. Perhaps unreilable, perhaps wants softer ground?

Not sure Sumo Sam wants soft ground. The run at HQ was on Soft and it physically looked to be struggling on that ground. Could been down to fitness level. Most probably needs 2M, but travelled better today imo.

beat 3 mid 90 horses by 6.5L  ..cud have been 10..

its a 120 filly after 2 runs...

another enable.

There’s the German Derby on the 2nd July if they want to get a race in before the Nassau.

She won't win a Group 1 over 12f+

Not in Britain /Ire/France

Sumo Sam's 'good run' at Newmarket was on soft, and her terrible run was on much quicker ground. She had an easy lead yesterday and as soon as they quickened up she was beaten. Given the profile I wouldn't be rushing to back her at a short price in an ordinary maiden. I backed the second, and although clear second best I wouldn't be certain she has even gone forward from her Musidora run. It was a one horse race.

Been put in the Ribblesdale.

Jun 11, 2023 -- 3:25PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:

female frankel..will not be beaten.

Come on Rico post ya bet, or is it too big .

same lines as baaeed..o'neil rode fto..jussed got betta n betta.

2nd fav bluestocking looks 100ish hoss..easy pickings.

19 runners the morra and 8/13

Free munee surely if its never gonna get beaten .

i say its another enable..but we've seen it all in hoss racing.

Was plenty on 4/5 earlier in the week, can see plenty of big punters playing would not ne surprised if it went off 1.55ish, hope it wins by 10 lengths i wont be playing missed the prices, gl if you get involved.

Had £400 on at 4/5 and a £20 rfc.

av ewe clicked submit?

Would be some effort lumping top weight in this :o

good luck rico she looks summit speshul ..........................but !

stone in hand imo foylesy...3 quickish runs but gossy nahs what he's doing..convinced its a superstar.

you and the odds compilers are prob right, she was very impressive last time and should go on progressing, been supplemented for this and with top connections, well bred not many negatives at all . it just comes down to price for me and i dont do short prices, i know 4/6 could look massive post race but i will have   a few pops at bigger prices ,if she pishes up so be it . she could  well hack up here ,many will expect her to win this and the betting suggests she is gonna be very  hard to beat here  but she is the type i like to take on ie a last time out wide margin winner that has caught the media and publics attention  . my problem is i am not a layer 6/4 or whatever to lay dosent interest me and there are 20 odd other well bred  fillys in the line up, most of them unexposed and all trying . it could be a rough race and she has only had 2  races and they were small field events . gosdens won 4 of the last 6 runnings of this and obviously knows what it takes .
i like a few here at decent odds and will stick a thread up nearer race time . best of luck with her  as the odds suggest you will have more chance of collecting than me.

was only ever 19 runners..2 nr sew 17 noo...i think 1.66 could look a wonderful price at 3-45.

10/11on ear rico .........

AYE JUST SCENE..WHY THE DRIFT?

strange drift for a hoarse thats been solid all week

mebbe people thinking inexperienced horse ,17 runners 4/6 way to short

put it 3 6 runner fields and 1.2 in each

J Weaver, can't have her on my mind, doubt she will stay. what does he know?

thats what he's said today?

price has gone on my fancys what with the withdrawels but there ya go , 10/11 with the nonners cud be  a great price . but i am against her . lets see what she is made of if anything  today can get her off the bridal and go toe to toe..

b365 going 11/8 .....................

11/8 super boost ....................prob only fer buttons but a bit drifty duz she no?

its down to the fact that so many favs have been beaten this week, large field, hold up tactics - people latching on to these things to get it beat

only negative for me is the extra 2f..i'd trust crowley and gosden more than weavers opinion.

Suppose the extra 2F with a sound gallop could be her undoing, but she surely will improve for the stronger pace given how she swings along

Did Crowley and Gosden say they were confident on hoss getting trip?

gosden said yesterday on breeding she shud be fine.

if she gets this trip then KG / Arc must be the target.

id imagine they

would know if she stays the trip given that they know what it takes to win both those races.

correct btt..strange drift imo.

nearly as strange round the island being matched at 1.04 In running when well with in the last furlong

Segal fading it as well.. https://twitter.com/i/status/1671865871952916482

One wonders if all these doubters are conspiring to support the drift - only to lump on the good thing..

Just big players out to get it and take on the favourite. Maybe sensible for the Burke horse but playing with fire when taking on big John. Looks a great price now

Looks fit as a flea in the paddock, Do think she will take the beating.
Im On! Lump on im happy with the price. thought it was going to be around 4/7

segal simply speculating on the big time and finding trouble.. then he says 'could be a superstar'

segal simply speculating on the big field and finding trouble.. then he says 'could be a superstar'

I'm on as well, didn't expect to see 1.94, lets hope she carries on the progress.

gl backers.

Overcomes this draw (13),think she will win this.
  GL ALL

Beckett / Dettori have a 26% Strike rate - Doesnt ride that often, but this week they appear to team up quite a bit. Is this the one winner for that combo? has a great record in the race

oh dear

never fails to amaze does horse racing...

Had too much weight to give away.

Dettori you useless cant

Another superstar bites the dust, market spot on again.

didnt stay

Travelled well,didn't get the trip.

Gosden a clown.

The Drift correct.....even's carrot dangled got m involved....yeak looks like it didn't stay

Wouldn't have won over 10f either

Traveled like a monster and folded like one of Nevo's suits..

GoBallistic 22 Jun 23 15:45 
Wouldn't have won over 10f either


correct..abso legless last fur..cant be its running.

If she runs in the Nassua Stks,I'd say she'd have a cracking chance.

Rico's response to being completely wrong is "never fails to amaze does horse racing". Let's hope he proves as understanding to others who stick their head above the parapet but get it wrong, rather than ripping them to shreds. Somehow I doubt it.

Rico sinks a superstar ..agree IS Frankie asleep mid race ..

had me write up done 2 selections ryans and jessies biut the fookin fing froze by the time i worked out how to use the missuses lappy the race over ! thats life ! bad luck fav backers.

WD Folyles

Rico-Dangleflaps 22 Jun 23 14:16 
only negative for me is the extra 2f..i'd trust crowley and gosden more than weavers opinion.


was hardly completely wrong in fairness.

might need a bit more time between races.

not a fan of the winner tbh

On the lay part..yeah on other thread went Frankie s ..saver on Ryans.wush went other way after Bertinelli ffs
Yeah fav maybe out a bit too quickly..
You re right Foyles .ya did warn OP so fair play..

How much ya win Rico..post yer bet tar :)

Gosden hardly a clown Prosniper lol come on hahaha

De_man 22 Jun 23 15:52 
How much ya win Rico..post yer bet tar :)


£56,000 since jan...you?

Not always, manny, but he CAN BE, the same way any jockey CAN BE.

Good posts Foyles.  I said earlier on thread she likely wants less distance than more. Goodwood a speed track especially if they don't go over quick.

Eclipse horse

sumo sam in 3rd behind fav last time  ,well btn yesterday addmitedly over further .

Asadna, Al Asifah, Elite Status, Barnwell Boy all strongly fancied buzz horses after apparent breath taking performances, all sunk.

Rico ..probably lost 2k since Jan.. on a woeful run tbh lol wont lie .. missed that 498/1 cos taking a break and didnt bother going down bookies for 150/1 lol watched it run v her majesty etc and though 66/1 i ll back that then didnt ..sums up my yr lol got down for Bertinelli :( so you win :)

And her dam only won at 7f. Sire of dam won 10f max. It was way from sure on breeding ( 12f )

Id give the fav another chance given week and a half break... can put a line through imv

How can ya not be a fan of the winner Tony ..Warm Heart looks a good prospect ..

Done me twice on Bluestocking but looks a good un..

wd howard..was ewe that pushed it 1.5 > evens.

wd.

Can't claim to be one that cashed in Rico but it's clear what their thinking was. Of course sometime drifts are wrong but turned out a shrewd lay at 1.6.

did it look lto over 1m 2f it would be legless after 1m 3f iyo?

And wins Gold Cup then with 3 run monster lol ..hard to fathom racing so far this yr...wet spring maybe...
Think drift down to quick turnaround...you see Jim swinging you think here we go but Warm Heart was devastating... quickened impressively from the box seat..Ryan is riding Ascot so well this yr ..win or lose ..back to form..

Rico we can never be sure but fairly small distance changes do make a big difference in top Group races. Especially if you you go from tight track & modest pace to a stiffer test. Importantly I didn't think the form at Goodwood was too good albeit she certainly showed good speed. I tried to lay IR yesterday but just as I was about to press at 1.85 it went to about 1.45 and having just pics on here didn't press.