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Your fav horse that most people wouldn't remember
Your fav horse that most people wouldn't remember
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Ball Gown.....Was in a bookies in Exeter i got a proper tip from a lady who was part owner of the horse. won at 14/1
Went on to win another 3 on the trot....that got me hooked  |
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Twoboyz01 Jun 23 17:15
Manhattan Boy. Set your watch by him round Plumpton I get your point, but he was beaten 50 times at Plumpton and was unplaced on 29 of these. BUT BUT BUT - He was a real hero of mine and won 14 times at Plummers and never won anywhere else. They even took him over to Belgium, but with no success. All his 14 wins were in sellers and he contested the Peacehaven Selling Hurdle SEVEN times and won five of these. The first three ridden by Penny Ffitch-Heyes and the second two by Adrian Maguire, no less. |
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Al Hareb
Daarkom Elmaamul Forest Sun Bank View Vouchsafe Jinxy Jack & Randolph Place despite being INFAMOUS in their day for falling when long odds on for the Cumbrian Gordown Richards. |
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Multiple Times the last 2 ^
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Birds Nest hanging when under pressure.
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My first ever greyhound, Freckles, got me and the missus married 44 years ago with a quite memorable win on my stag night.
Paid for the whole shebang, and a lot more that year. Happy days. |
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Remember when the stands were packed at Greyhound Racing now not many go,used to enjoy Saturday evening at the Greyhounds.The track here closed 2 years ago hardly anyone went.
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Venus of Streatham, horse from mid-1970's. Won a series of little nurseries and liked Catterick. At 3 it even placed in the Jersey at Royal Ascot.
My mum and dad's very long time neighbours had a son who was a salesman and on his travels he got a tip for the horse before it won its maiden. I then followed it with my 50p each=ways and it won frequently, nearly always at reasonable prices. After that one, Space Blues from 2019 onwards. Very unheralded Goldolphin horse that took a York handicap at the Dante meeting with amazing ease under 10st plus. I then followed it throughout its very successful career, mostly abroad. So, there you go, two horses coming up to 45 years apart! |
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O I Oyston............Chester legend!!!!
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O I Oyston............Chester legend!!!!
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First horse I ever followed with enthusiasm (and bear in mind this was well before I was of an age when I could bet, probably not even a teenager at the time) was a chaser trained by Albert Neaves called Copperless. 2.5 miler if memory serves correctly, had some success in minor races round the likes of Plumpton and Fontwell, occasionally tried with no success in larger more valuable races.
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Cardinal Scott
When jinxy jack made his hurdling debut at Carlisle I owned the runner up so it was with great interest I followed his career ,he ran in the champion hurdles won by the brothers Morley street and granville again and even when close to his 10 th birthday he ran at leopardstown in the grade one 2 mile hurdle.as far as I am aware Kelso never named a race after him . |
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I recall a summer Saturday at Haydock in 1977. Got into the course as the first race, The Sporting Chronicle Handicap, was already underway but made it to a few steps up the stand to witness what turned into a furlong long duel between an Steve Nesbitt trained animal called Crimson Silk, and Barry Hills’s Mofida who came out on top. She was shortly bough by Robert Sangster and was highly tried the following season, acquitting herself with credit. But as a mare it was Juddmonte who benefited as she turned out to be the second dam of both Zafonic and Zamindar.
Over the past 20 years I was particularly smitten by Chic. First saw her when she won a maiden at Chester, looking a good bodied animal with scope and substance against a bunch of wiry, scrawny looking individuals by comparison. As is typical of the Stoute / Cheveley Park individuals, she developed into a high class performer after being kept in training at four and five. Sadly, I am not sure if she ever foaled - she never had a runner on the course or even one listed as in training, and never saw her mentioned when Cheveley Park release details of some of their mating plans. |
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One on my list would be master Beveled who incidentally chased home another one of my favourites already mentioned by mat,ball gown on the rowley mile.
Master beveled ran over 150 times he won an apprentice handicap at Newmarket ridden by seb Saunders,won over hurdles at Windsor ridden by Tony McCoy,he raced on the aw and ran at Folkestone,he ran in the supreme novice hurdle won by indefence,3 lb claimer Robert Thornton rode him in the Scottish champion hurdle,he won the agfa hurdle at sandown beating shadow leader and won the haydock champion hurdle trial beating Wahiba sands and pridwell who beat istabraq at aintree, He finished 3rd in the hattons grace at fairyhouse beating by limestone lad and istabraq,he even won over fences at fontwell |
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@verbotene liebe:
Chic had at least one foal - Tim Easterby's Golden Apollo is her grandson. |
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Looks like Elan was Chic's only produce.
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Thank you for that heads up Ged. Does look as though Elan may have been the only foal and that there are no more directly descending mares unless Elan has something unraced that is being bred from. Nine years since she last foaled a runner.
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Friendly Neighbour trained by the Barnstable Butcher C.J Hill.
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Not necessarily favourite but certainly most memorable. Late 1990s, was in my late teens, dragged a friend to a BH meet at Fontwell. He had never been racing before and had little interest, I thought I knew everything.
Selling handicap chase (remember those?), he decided he was going to have a fiver each way on a horse called Gabish - a Bernard Scriven-trained 12yo that was 6lb out of the handicap and hadn't won for five years. I looked at the form, scoffed, and told my friend it would be more sensible flushing his five quid down the bog. He bowed to my expertise and piled in with me on a Pipe beast instead. Gabish promptly made most and held on grimly from the fast-finishing said Pipe runner, at an SP of 33/1. My friend took it in good humour but has never let me forget it. Nowadays I struggle to remember what has won anything after a day at the track, but I'll always remember Gabish. |
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Master Butcher, Norwegian Flag and Thornton Fire, all around Fontwell
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Glencroft, one of the first horses I backed when the old man would put bets on for me. Won a good few times, but think it had a windpipe OP and was never the same again.
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Vakil ul Mulk. John Meacocks. Did me a real good turn.
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Gabish, in 1997, was a 12yo, sent up from Taunton by permit holder Bernard Scriven, one of the good old boys of West Country jumping and a great source of big-priced winners back then. He used to insist that it was his daughter who was responsible for training the ones who won. Gabish had run well in a couple of selling handicap chases at Hereford and Ludlow back in the early autumn (and less well over hurdles, where the horse had no chance, in the interim).
I had £50 each way at 50/1 with John (Joe) Bates (also betting with the firm that afternoon was the bookie Pat Cash, who sometimes posts here as CASHLESS). Eddie Fremantle had a good bet on it too. The old horse took it up with a circuit to go and held on all out from a hurdler of the Martin Pipe Racing Club called Shikaree (won loads of races over hurdles, but thankfully none over fences). Fremantle and I were yelling it home in the packed stands, when we noticed a slightly older gentleman standing next to us yelling it home with equal gusto. It turned out to be none other than Scriven himself, who was at a bit of a loss as to why we'd backed his horse (it was well out of the handicap). Fremantle explained that he'd in fact backed the horse 10 years earlier when it had won a 2yo maiden at Brighton for Sheikh Hamdan. Obvious really. John Bates was a terrific and very fair bookmaker, but he never had a chance to show it for the rest of that afternoon, having been cleaned out for the day with that one bet. The funny thing about Bernard Scriven was that he turned out to be a lovely, friendly bloke, but always used to call me "Dave", which is not my name. We couldn't work out why. Was he channelling his inner Trigger or something? In the end we worked out that he'd asked Mick Connorton, a hack on the Life, who I was, and Connorton had explained that I was deaf, and Scriven had misheard it as "Dave". |
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Sabrehill, trained by Henry Cecil
Pulled like a pully thing all the way in the Juddemonte and went lame in race, still finished 2nd Retired straight after. Oozed quality. |
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Pat Cash remembers Gabish at Fontwell (doesn't quite remember the year or the trainer, but there you go):
CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD19 Oct 12 18:31Joined: 07 May 06 | Topic/replies: 2,175 | Blogger: CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD's blog WE WENT TO FONTWELL ONE BANK HOLIDAY ME JOE AND THE SHOPLIFTER FROM LEICESTER ...WE STOPS OFF AT THE LITTLE CHEF ON THE ISLAND OUTSIDE FONTWEELL IT WAS RASMMMED BUT WE GOT A TABLE THIS WAS 1988...SITS DOWN TELLS THE GAL 3 POTS OFF TEA PLEASE PICKS UP THE MENU SAYS TO JOE AND ANDY HIS NAME WAS ,RIGHT LADS HAVE WHAT U WANT THROUGH THE CARD SO THEY LOOK AT ME WONDERING IF IM SERIUOS THE BIRDS THERE WITH HER PAD AND I SAYS ILL HAVE THE GARLIC PLATTER TO START AN OLYMPIC SIZED BREAKFAST EXTRA BACON 6 SLICES OF TOAST FOR AFTERS ILL HAVE THE CHERRY PANCAKES AND RASPBERRYS DOUBLE ICE CREAM....SO I NODS TO THE OTHER 2 AND SAY GO ON WHAT EVER YA WANT ,SO THEYVE HAD THE LOT ,45 MINUTES LATER WERE ALL LICKING THE PLATE ......UL ANDYS LAGGING BEHIND AND HES HALF WAY THROUGH HIS PUDDING I GETS UP SLOWLY AND GIVE JOE A LOOK STARTS HEADING FOR THE DOOR AND JOES UP ME AR.SE ANDYS HALF TWIGGED ON AND REALISED WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND HES NOW ON THE GALLOP ,WALKS PAST THE TILL NEAR THE DOOR WITH THEM PAIR TRYING TO GET PAST THEYVE RAN PAST ME GETS IN THE CAR AND DRIVES OFF WITHOUT ME IVE HAD TO LEG ACROSSS THE ROUNDABOUT INTO THE TRACK ...........THE BIZ WAS VERY VERY GOOD IN THE FIRST RACE THERE WAS A PUNTER CALLED DEAF PAUL HE HAS A A FIFTY AT 50-1 A HORSE CALLED GABISH TRAINED BY FFITCH HEYES IT BOLTED UP AND WE WENT SKINT FIRST RACE WE GOT THROUGH THE DAY AND WENT HOME WITH ENOUGH FOR THE JUICE TO GET US HOME.....HAPY DAYS https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/29443049/on-course-bookmakers-funny-stories-got-any?origpost_id=527876101&pg=2 |
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Many good memories with these obscure horses.
Mellotie Mrs Reveleys star whom i followed from her early races. Cima A grand servant to Jim Old who loved soft round. Kytton Castle Low level mare for Robin Dicken in the 80s Brave Tornado Won me a nice few quid trained by Toby Balding and loved heavy round. Black Minstrel Cannot remember the trainer but won its fair share of handicaps. |
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Black Minstrel was trained by Duncan Sasse 70s/80s
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Cima was not that obscure in his day! He won a flat handicap at Royal Ascot and was second in both the Triumph Hurdle and the Champion hurdle. He was the first horse to be beaten by a mare who had an allowance in Dawn Run and was only beaten half a length. In the Triumph he was beaten by a horse that had won over hurdles in the spring in France. The conditions are "for 4yos" and say nothing about novice status and I think that Shiny Copper is still the only Triumph winner that had won in the previous NH season. So Cima was unlucky in both of his Cheltenham second places in that the winner was unique in one case and the first (mare) in the other. Cima did try fences in later years but was a bit wild and took a heavy fall at Towcester.
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Some good memories remembered
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Wollow.
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noddle- pillar to post job at catterick was his forte
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Ekbalco, top 80's hurdler, trained just down the road from where I used to live
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Tactico - very gutsy consistent northern? NH horse possibly. Can't remember who trained it.
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verbote
as kids my mates parents new steve nessbit and went to his yard a few times on visits and backed his hanibal lector UBEDIZZY a few times when winning once at a nice price |
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Maurice's tip seemed to run every other day in the early eighties rarely winning but usually placed
Mademoiselle Chloe romping home at Ayr Selkirk winning at Ascot |
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First class horse I remember backing was Cracaval ,Barry Hills and Cauthen I think .Handicappers of that era I remember wins on ...Blakesware County ,M.Jarvis?? Hooligan ,Pat Rohan I think .Good memories .
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Rigton beau.
Won at uttoxeter late December,80s,knew the owner,paid for Xmas, my first inside info winner. Looked the best on form,so knowing the owner was pointless,but just highlighted it’s chance. |
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Paris Pike.
Had a pub in Northumberland in the 90s which Major Ivan Straker and his wife were regulars. Came in one day, just bought a real chasing type out of Ireland, going to win the SGN then Aintree next year. What a crack his novice season was mostly up in Scotland, absolutely lumping on, never a bad price either. Sure enough, won at Ayr, although I think Marlborough would have given him a race if he hadn't run in the NH Chase. Tipped up at the first in GN next year when near fav. Not really a follower of jump racing, but that winter sticks in the memory. |
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Screaming - fantastic Gabish story, thanks very much!
Just goes to prove that I did indeed know nothing, and probably still do! |
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Bobsbest, sprinter in the early sixties. Used to stand outside the betting shop as a boy and listen to the commentary. Bobsbest wasn't up to much but he never stopped trying and earned me a few sherbet dabs via my elder brother. They have reused the name since but that one was worse !
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