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Jumping-cuckoo-monk
19 May 23 14:05
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And his time bowlocks. What's the point? Hopeless
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Report howard May 19, 2023 2:17 PM BST
Willo and him as near to pro punters as laurel and hardy. Computers would clean up if turning everything into numbers was the key.
Report england_v_south_afri May 19, 2023 2:38 PM BST
Its a load of nonsense but he's trying his best and filling air time. LaughLaughLaugh
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 19, 2023 2:41 PM BST
"Massive sectional upgrade" for the runner up at York, just then.
Marvellous stuff Gus
Report clacton May 19, 2023 3:26 PM BST
Cant see how it can be used in the future.
Report differentdrum May 19, 2023 4:29 PM BST
I think the cupboard is so bare that 'the Captain' is seen as a 'safe pair of hands'? Others might have a somewhat different opinion of his skills.
Report WHOKNOWSTHEBOWLER May 19, 2023 10:04 PM BST
Mc Nae is an excellent head presenter. But the time and speed per furlong is  of no use to future races as you don't know what the pace will be in any given race.Often Timeform give a "strong pace " forecast and they dawdle and vice versa. Horses will always win fro mthe front off a slow pace, and off too fast pace the closers will win.
Report GEORGE.B May 19, 2023 10:24 PM BST
"Horses will always win from the front off a slow pace"

Angus and Willo would disagree with you there

Q) Where do you want to be in a slowly run race?

A) On the quickest horse!

eg 4.55 Newbury, didn't look a frantic pace, first came from well off the pace and sprinted clear. 0-70, but rated 72 and only got in because of the +2lb rule.
Report GEORGE.B May 19, 2023 10:34 PM BST
If you don't do your own sectionals, then I think The Verdict and their sectional analyses are worth listening to, to get a handle on how races panned out from a pace scenario viewpoint, and you never know, may come in handy when studying the form at a later date.

Some punters quick to dismiss the work of Willo and McNae, but they do come up with stuff worth listening to.

Even Hugh Taylor has said in the past, how the visual perception of pace can be misleading.
Report Cider May 20, 2023 12:12 PM BST
Probably the first time Greysful Storm had been asked to race properly, and running over an extended trip compared to when it was handicapped. That's the 'problem'. I'm not sure if that's the correct word for it, but there are so many other variables in the outcome of a race. For sure, the pace of the race is one of them. If it had 20lb in hand it probably wins easy whatever the shape of the race.

The pundits assessing this also continually have to find an angle. There's not much to say if the race had a regular pace and the best horse on the day won. So the temptation for the wise guys is to try and identify something that's not there.
Report MJK May 20, 2023 2:02 PM BST
Imagine him and Nevison in the studio together, a constant stream of mmmmmm and er em.
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