Have we just seen the Derby winner?

The Winner is a useful sort....Passenger would have beaten him 3 or 4 and with more improvement to come. You've seen your Derby winner today(Nap)

Eight of them within a couple of lengths of each other at the furlong pole

And five of them within 2 or 3 lengths of each other at the finish.Not a vintage year if one of them wins, imoCanberra Legend evidently hated that quicker ground.

thought the second stayed on best of them all including the stoute horse

Passenger would have put daylight between himself and the field given the chance IMVHO.

Passenger (USA)Stats against him? Seems a long time since an American-bred won the Derby?

Foley was terrible as per .. Ryan asleep too... might not be the worst dante as first look would have ya believe..

Kingscote /Foley... wouldnt be your 1st choice for top class nags

Kris Kin (2003) the last USA-bred to win the Derby?

He has the right trainer then GB.

Indeed, WP

GEORGE.B 18 May 23 15:46 If we have [from the Dante], I'll do a streak around Tattenham Corner!Unfortunately, I won't be getting the opportunity to pull a moony at the 'protesters' after the Dante form proves to be pants!

To be fair, White Birch has run a good race to finish third, albeit a safe distance behind the first two.