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is that Adele Mulrennan on RTV punditry duties now ?
is that Adele Mulrennan on RTV punditry duties now ?
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Paul Mulrennan ambassador is all you need to know, hilarious, you couldnt make it up ffs.
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Indeed, hibby.
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and btw it ain't an 'argument'...
it's FACT man. and the FACT that Peter Harris was the last one tells you it's a FACT... every appointment sice then has been in house / see no evil hear no evil... but you think it's about diversity... nurse...nurse...got another one here for you. |
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Paul Mulrennan ambassador is all you need to know, hilarious, you couldnt make it up ffs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 100% spot on basil... Stewards Enquiry on that one for me. |
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to be fair to adele at least she has an opinion and in last 2 appearances i on itv and today,went in to detail about where and what she looks for in the paddock to decide if she thinks a horse is fit or not,might be bollocks but she,s put it out there
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and it's a million to one she'll have an opinion she is willing to share post-race if she spots one given an iffy ride...
just like the rest of them tbf... it's not Adele's fault she is given a cosy job from RTV... it's all RTV's fault... they don't want anyone rocking the boat in any way shape or form... Adele just fits in nicely. |
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If anyone had the inclination to call out bad rides they could easily do it without resorting to using words like 'dodgy'.
Unfortunately, nobody does. Mulrennan is no worse than the rest. It's a total dung heap. |
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agree with that differentdrum.
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They all have multiple earners within the racing industry. That's the real killer.
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A 'bad' ride isn't necessarily a 'dodgy' one though.
HappyHibby wants to see "iffy" (his word) rides called out, and by "iffy" I presume he means 'stopping' rides. So HappyHibby and differentdrum, how would you like pundits to word such rides without getting themselves sued? |
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"not knocked about"
"one for the tracker" "a market move next time would be interesting" |
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the other 'real killer' is that TV companies deliberately employ folk who they 100% know won't blow the 'that looked a bit iffy to me' trumpet MJK...
they shouldn't go anywhere near trainers sons/daughters... jockeys agents... ex-jockeys... if they want a 'balanced' view that is... and anyone with a brain knows they don't want that. |
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the ride on Gendarme...
heavy drift on Betfair pre-race... Patrick Byrnes never really got the horse involved... Stewards really should be looking at that ride... how about that George ? |
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Yes, that's fair enough HappyHibby, I think they could say that without getting themselves sued.
They may then find themselves ostracized and unable to conduct any interviews, but hey, their respect rating might have gone up among the viewers. |
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and you are just falling in to the trap that they do George...
no wonder we have pundit after pundit / presenter after presenter playing hear no evil see no evil... i couldn't give a toss if they are interviewed or not... TV producers shouldn't care either... just let trainers/jockeys do whatever they want and say nowt about it... well done George... tremendous. |
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so George wants pundits / presenters to say nowt about iffy/dodgy rides just so that they can get an after race interview...
utterly bonkers... sadly that's the way it is. |
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Charles Byrnes never gives interviews anyway (or very rarely)...
so there's nowt to lose with him anyway. |
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nibiru martin at aintree drifted like a barge min before off never went a yard
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HappyHibby 17 Apr 23 20:33
so George wants pundits / presenters to say nowt about iffy/dodgy rides just so that they can get an after race interview... It makes no difference to me what they say, or what interviews they do or don't, particularly as I usually have it on mute anyway. It's not the job of pundits to police the sport, and if they do call out bad rides, what do they gain from it? Depending how they word it, a potential libel case, and even saying it in a roundabout way will get them ostracized. So what's the f*cking point? And suppose stewards / BHA do take a look on the say so of a pundit - "explanations noted"? |
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When Chapman called out a ride a few years ago he got taken off air and had to apologize.
https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/at-the-races-presenter-chapman-falls-foul-of-jump-jockey-lawyer-53994/ No wonder these pundits are careful in what they say. |
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And when Lydia Hislop called out the Get Me Out Of Here ride at Ascot...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2010/dec/02/tony-mccoy-racing-uk-boycott This was nothing to do with a ride, but when the IHRB's Head of Security Chris Gordon tried to do his job, he found there was one big club and he wasn't in it! Alarmingly, the 137-page document noted that the IRTA had "successfully petitioned Horse Racing Ireland to exert pressure on the Turf Club to restrict Mr Gordon in his duties and prevent him from investigating trainers". https://www.racingpost.com/news/irish-trainers-body-loses-appeal-in-defamation-case-that-could-run-to-millions-auyxH0R3DBGk/ |
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Poor take imo.
If a footballer didnt try I'd expect the pundits to call them out and be dissapointed about it. ALL REEKS OF GRAVY IMO COSY COSY |
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Any football examples of "non-jiggers", Itsmeswaddle, where *ON THE DAY* a pundit called it out?
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Geoff, that was a brilliant run and cross by the right back, but a shocking miss by the centre forward...He must have had a bet on the opposition, or laid his team on Betfair.
Nah, didn't think so. |
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What if someone has given up or could try harder?
For example Bruno getting beat 7-1 v Lpool say? Called out there and then. |
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"Nah, didn't think so. "
I think so chief. |
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I don't think you're comparing like with like, there.
When a jockey is accused of 'stopping' one, that could imply for financial gain and to defraud punters who have backed the horse, a very serious and damaging accusation. A team not pulling their weight when losing a match and more or less accepting the situation, has no such comparison when suggested by a pundit. |
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It's not the job of pundits to police the sport
-------------------------------------------------- and i am not saying it is their job George... but it IS their job to give a BALANCED view... which 999 999 out of a million they never do... so they are all either very poor at their jobs... or they deliberately go nowhere near the dark side of racing... it can only be either or George. |
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why did Kevin O'Ryan say nowt about the two Byrnes horses at Tramore George ?
a) he didn't spot them (which means he is terrible at his job and shouldn't be employed in that case)... b) he saw the drifts...he saw the rides...and he thought to himself it's best to say nowt... no other options George... which one was it iyv ? |
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Adele is quite fit in a mumsy kinda way. She was on duty at Sedgefield a few months ago, even better in the flesh!
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I don't expect any pundit to declare that a ride is 'iffy' in stark terms of it being deliberately stopped, but they could draw attention to it. Either way there is no excuse for not calling out hundreds, maybe thousands of bad rides every year, and that includes jocks not making enough effort to gain the best possible position. If they did it might be enforced a bit more, it couldn't be enforced even less. You are not going to end up in court just because you declare a bad ride. That's just an opinion. It is different if you were to throw motive into the mix which you don't need to do. If that means jocks not talking then that would just confirm how childish they are. I doubt anyone would miss much if they did.
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I've met Adele a few times and she was personable , charming and a good conversationalist, always interested in what you are saying.
I agree that the TV pundits don't tell it as it is but we are not in the world of John Mcririck any more , like it or not,( and I don't ) . If someone offered you a 40, 50 or 60,000 pound contract but said , “ Don't upset anyone “ , what would you honeslly do ? I think we a kicking at a closed door here. |
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Sorry
Honestly and kicking at. Fat fingers. |
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Iffy,strange,oops,dodgy,not tuned,unlucky,ground,short of room,felt something,draw,zzzzzz and on and on and on ffs
Come racing anything goes,nudge wink and whisper all piss Horses are commodities and punters are fodder…. Been like that since time began and us fodder won’t change a thing The smell of the envelope……Mmmmm Pink or blue ? …….eh let me guess ffs…. All in my humble opinion of course….. Rancid…..imv… |
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I rest my case I’m up to my eyeballs in form……
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How are they suppose to call out "iffy" rides when a main part of their job is to interview both pre and post-race the people you want them to call out?
Puts them in an awkward situation, eh? This wasn't about a ride, I think this response from Davy Russell was because of what Bruce Millington had written about him punching a horse at Tramore, which seemingly wasn't an unreasonable opinion piece. But this an example of what happens when they say something a jockey doesn't like, how awkward and pathetic was this on the Nick Luck show? https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/horseracing/14045105/watch-davy-russell-refuse-answer-question-awkward/ |
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as many folk would say on here...
fine by me... if the trade off is 'we won't do interviews if you say owt bad or negative about us' then fine... personally i'm not the slightest bit interested in the 'we are not worthy' style of interviewing that gets done on racing channels anyway... and i not so long ago ditched my subscription to RTV partly because of this... so their tactic of sucking up to every trainer / owner / jockey hasn't worked with me... their loss not mine. |
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there's only one way to change things in this world...
you take a stance and you stick by your guns... you don't pander to pampered jockeys/trainers/owners who mostly don't live in the real world anyway... as Deborah Meaden says on Dragons Den... 'i like disrupting the market'... and she's right... you won't change things by just going down the same road day in day out. |
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Job description
As a charismatic and outgoing roving reporter, you will build up an excellent rapport with jockeys, trainers and owners, so you can bring our viewers informative and entertaining interviews both in the paddock with the main contenders and after the race with the jubilant connections. Oh yeah, so try not to piss them off by saying the stewards should be enquiring into their horses  |