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By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Apr 23 13:15
If you are referring to the size of the workforce then you are right.  If you are referring to productivity then you are not.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Apr 23 13:21
I'm pretty sure I read a quote from an industry booklet that went along the lines of output had increased despite a two thirds drop in the workforce.  Early 90s
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 04 Apr 23 13:27
The point is taxes have to be set at a level that makes you competitive in the global market.  That fundamentally should always be the first consideration around any tax rise or fall, because that ultimately determines how much tax revenue you take.
By:
mitolo
When: 04 Apr 23 13:32
usual insightful intellectual analysis from peabrain pansydora and juvenalia from the usual erbets. and i couldnt stand the bugger

but without him no modestly-monikered nigella. id euthanise a million of the lower orders for that
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Apr 23 13:35
I'd disagree on that in isolation. What the taxes are used for is far more important. Infrastructure, training, public transport etc.
By:
mitolo
When: 04 Apr 23 13:40
prob is the state is spectacularly inept at spending it. or rather, very good at burning it. hs2(id vote for lord buckethead if hed scrap it. its not too late. high-speed interweb everywhere would cost 5% of it) being the latest calamity to follow from crossrail, the nhs i.t. disaster and a million others i cant be arsed mentioning. and local govt. is even worse
By:
mrcombustible
When: 04 Apr 23 16:36
The only good tory is a dead tory
By:
blackbarn
When: 04 Apr 23 17:29
"modestly-monikered nigella" - actually her name was not chosen by Nigel, it was suggested by her grandmother, a keen gardener. Nigella is the latin species name for the Love-In-A-Mist garden plant. 'Tis blue mind!
By:
mrcombustible
When: 04 Apr 23 17:36
She should have been called cokehead
By:
howard
When: 04 Apr 23 17:49
"Yes. And there's Brown ruining everything. It was Brown's reduction of the off-course tax to zero % which enabled low-margin FOBTs to suddenly become viable."


And Betfair.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Apr 23 17:55
Betfair was the worst consequence of all. Gave the bookmakers the best tissue they've ever had, and turned them from people with an opinion into penny-chasing middlemen.
By:
howard
When: 04 Apr 23 18:00
Depends how you play. If you look for ricks that's true.  I also like the best tissue.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Apr 23 18:03
Betfair turned bookmakers into the worst sort of entrepreneur: the ones who sell something at one price (evens) only if they know they can buy it back at a better one (2.2). The unacceptable face of capitalism.
By:
howard
When: 04 Apr 23 18:09
They used to  bet with each other on-course ( tic-tac ) didn't they ? And have the big firms shorten up prices in the ring. Yeah great daysCrazy
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Apr 23 18:40
The difference back then was that if they laid something at evens and had it back at 6/5, that 6/5 was available tax-free to the punters too.

Now you have the choice of taking evens tax-free with the books or 2.2 with commission deducted on here. Tax-free betting at under the odds with the books, or bigger odds on here with your winnings taxed (aka the commission).
By:
howard
When: 04 Apr 23 18:47
..."had it back at 6/5, that 6/5 was available tax-free to the punters too."  Often only if you could run quicker than tic-tic and maybe across the other side of the track too. Never mind all the other opportunities eg. up to  5/1 IR Zoology.
By:
howard
When: 04 Apr 23 18:56
And the situation where there are a few on-course bookies going 6/5 rather than the general evens don't you think the odds on here will be more than 2.2 ?
By:
maleuk01.
When: 04 Apr 23 19:10
Handed me my degree in the ceremony and gave the world the ultimate Milf in Nigella.

So wasn't all bad.

RIP
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 04 Apr 23 22:39
Took down the wicked witch so all good in my book

And i live nearby to a "steel town" that was mekking a decent profit when she and her cohort from the miners battle who knew sweet f a about common decency decided to shut it down no matter what cost to the town and surrounding areas .

Fair play to anutha of her puppets the guy that said get on ya bike - i had nee choice so had to go down South (tebbut) but it was the making of me further down the line ShockedMischiefPlain
By:
Ramruma
When: 05 Apr 23 11:02
blackbarn -- " "modestly-monikered nigella" - actually her name was not chosen by Nigel, it was suggested by her grandmother, a keen gardener. Nigella is the latin species name for the Love-In-A-Mist garden plant. 'Tis blue mind!"

Hmm. Lord Lawson's full name: Nigel Thomas Lawson.

His children include the coincidentally-monikered Nigella, Thomasina and Thomas Nigel Lawson.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Apr 23 13:28
If increasing productivity and automation does not reduce the workforce then there is something seriously. I was a farmer by "profession" and improved productivity has reduced the number of farmers and farm employees by 90% in 50 years. Nobody in politics knows or cares about that. Same situation for small businesses of many sorts. As they are self employed or private limited companies they have no political voice like those who are employed in large organisations. Changes of Government have had a minimal effect on agriculture for 50 years or more.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Apr 23 13:28
If increasing productivity and automation does not reduce the workforce then there is something seriously wrong. I was a farmer by "profession" and improved productivity has reduced the number of farmers and farm employees by 90% in 50 years. Nobody in politics knows or cares about that. Same situation for small businesses of many sorts. As they are self employed or private limited companies they have no political voice like those who are employed in large organisations. Changes of Government have had a minimal effect on agriculture for 50 years or more.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Apr 23 13:30
A forum first! I managed to edit my message between the first and second attempts to post it!
By:
howard
When: 05 Apr 23 13:43
they now have good reason to reduce the population...especially those that run cars and take holidaysDevil
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