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1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 23 14:41
was talking to my dad the other day he was asking me if i,d had a bet and i was saying lads who turned have a  bet say no i dont gamble but have no problem with buying 3 or 4 no,s tenner a pop on these lottery number draws for a 500 quid play station/new phone  etc as a prize where i wouldnt contemplate having a go
but i,m still having my same fivers,tenner maybe 20 i was having 20/30 yrs ago when with inflation etc it should be far more as a % of my money
By:
timberman
When: 19 Mar 23 16:49
Quite a few Irish didnt travel due to Hotel costs in the main , couldnt get anywhere in Cheltenham that wasnt totally rip off prices . Racecourse entry too is very expensive if your going 3/4 days. The crowd has shifted over the past 20 years from racing enthusiasts there for the week to Event tripers who go one day to get absolutely blotto & dont real care or appreciate racing.
Bottom line is its totally overpriced these days if your staying in cheltenham and theres only so many rich people interested in racing.Case of killing the goose that layed the golden egg.
By:
jimnast
When: 19 Mar 23 17:03
As I said on here earlier  on here Dublin was full of proper racing fans from the uk all coming to the conclusion it’s all round much better value and much less hassle ,they have already killed that goose.

Renton when asked this morning about the hotel prices his reply was well they filled up so who can blame them.
By:
1st time poster
When: 19 Mar 23 17:56
i went all the time in late 90,s to 2010 3 didnt go tues,just wed,thurs fri but after i give lad who booked tkts a small deposit for grandstand,i didnt owe him 100 quid on the day for rest of money,the lads now go all 4 days so i,d be paying 300 just for tkts before 5 mights acc, in a pub near evesham was less than 200 for 4 nights when i went no idea what it costs them now
By:
Hayden
When: 19 Mar 23 19:33
Worse thing you can ever do is lower the bar level in any walk of life.

Massive respect for Willie & Gordon , carry on regardless and give other trainers a decade or two to close the gap.


As for the real reason for the drop in attendance , haven't got a clue aside from the cost of living e.t.c


Good punting all   Happy
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 19 Mar 23 20:04
I was happy very with the reduced attendance, made it much easier to get round, go to the bar etc..long may it continue.
By:
high_lander
When: 19 Mar 23 20:19
It just isn't the same these days, Cheltenham seems less exciting with Willie Mullins and the Irish winning almost every race. In horse racing generally a lot of races look fixed, jockeys are incompetent or don't seem to be trying very hard. It all seems like a carve up... a moneymaking exercise. As the man said, "Y
By:
high_lander
When: 19 Mar 23 20:22
"You can fool all of the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

You've been rumbled... the jig is up.
By:
BB MP
When: 19 Mar 23 20:27
Only second festival I’ve since I first went in 2002 for Best Mate’s first gold cup. Basically for the last few years it’s changed from simply an expensive occasion to a feeling that you are simply being fleeced everywhere to go. The real killer is the accommodation though. The hotel I generally stop at has hiked its price around 70% higher since 2019.
By:
BB MP
When: 19 Mar 23 20:27
*Ive missed
By:
strontium
When: 19 Mar 23 20:36
"my" hotel put its price up 70% from last year. Fair play to them for trying to turn a penny, but every gravy train has buffers.
By:
high_lander
When: 19 Mar 23 20:58
Fair play? Total rip-off and profiteering are the words that spring to mind.
By:
strontium
When: 19 Mar 23 21:17
Well I chose not to pay it this year.
By:
sageform
When: 20 Mar 23 11:32
During my working life I lived close enough to drive in every day although it did require some ingenuity with back roads in latter years. We even offered farm b&b for a couple of years. I was an annual member which between 1980 and 2010 was not that expensive if you attended most other meetings. I did pay for a share in a hospitality chalet at the festival for several years which was another cost but we could take our own food back in the day so only paid for coffee. I also used the Racegoers Club tent one year. I stopped going soon after the 4 days started. Closing Tote Credit was the main reason I stopped going to live racing at all in the last 6 years. You see so much more on TV any way.
By:
paulo47
When: 20 Mar 23 13:21
Very similar to Sageform , off and on for 70s-80s , then annual member for 12 years , either Whatley Manor or the Dormy . Once expenses hit a grand (4 days started ) I stopped completely and never regretted it . More profitable punting (this year worst for some years ) and far more friendly to the body ! Betfair helped hugely mind as am not huge punter and not a usual favourite backer either .
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Mar 23 14:11
Went with Smirnoff & met Jimnast & his good lady where we were staying in Worcester... very reasonably priced !

There for the four days, the Thursday in the Best Mate was the least enjoyable.

I love N H racing, and don't drink when I go racing. Food & drink price's are outrageous ! Spoke to a bookmaker on the Thursday, & it was £820 ( on the day ) to trade in the Best Mate, there were at least fifty standing !

Smirnoff's treatment on the Thursday was appalling, & I will be writing a letter to the head of the J C !

In essence, I despise everything the Jockey Club stand for, & will never attend the Festival again !
By:
halcyon days
When: 20 Mar 23 14:15
^^^^^^

The J C staff are not trained properly, & the one's higher up the food chain are just blo0dy rude !
By:
GoBallistic
When: 20 Mar 23 17:18
Tickets on sale for next year. £3 extra each day in Tatts (compared with £7 increase last year). Implies it will be 4 days again with the same feature races on each day
By:
ribero1
When: 20 Mar 23 18:15
Just bought them,Tatts for the week £235.
By:
windsor knot
When: 20 Mar 23 18:46
a bit like ronnie earlier in the thread ...i'm about 40 years in , at least for the opening day . watching the events unfold  on tv at home i was thinking how much i would have missed just being cattle prodded around the place . admit though to switching between itv and rtv which alllowed me to listen to lydia and ruby  and mute mccoy and fitzy . the latter two are miles behind them . hey , time moves on but cheltenham should not be that confident of ' returning numbers ' . once you have broken the cycle of going there...
By:
jimnast
When: 21 Mar 23 09:05
Good morning halcyon hope your well

Completely agree with your comments on jcr it’s a bleak day when people realise arc look after the racegoer better.

Nice to have met you last week I could have gone on much longer with the football talk always enjoy sensible and knowledgeable football views and memories.

Good luck
By:
halcyon days
When: 21 Mar 23 12:17
Good morning Jimnast. Hope you're both well. Met some wonderful people over the four days, but I don't like being ''ripped off!'' I think the J C are killing the goose that laid the golden egg ! May try the Dublin Festival in the future, best wishes to you both !
By:
Ramruma
When: 21 Mar 23 13:50
The main problem is four days. It is exhausting to spend so much time on the course, and expensive to pay for accommodation and racecourse catering.

The fan village flopped but maybe there could be a solution along those lines, as with football world cups and, say, Glastonbury. Tents to replace cheese wedges on the cross-country course!

In some ways, numbers being down is good. You hear people saying the queues for toilets and bars were shorter, and that it was easier to move from one part of the course to another.

What I've not seen mentioned is the impact of bloody awful weather for at least the second year running.
By:
howard
When: 21 Mar 23 14:08
Yeah almost certainly an idiot or a charlatan if suggesting numbers will return in anything like near term. Be using their swiss bank cards no doubt.
By:
know all
When: 21 Mar 23 14:23
dont like negative things but this has made my week, the forum told em long time ago 7-50 pint of guiness the food, the price entry increases i only hope it falls further and some idiot said it will return to normal, no it fk wont, not while this squeeze is on, must have cost them millions and im very glad bunch of numptys
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 21 Mar 23 15:55
Well said know all.  Profiteering at its very worst.  Hell mend them - we''ll still have the racing.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 21 Mar 23 16:19
Anybody want a couple of tickets for the April meeting.

Ronnie.
By:
workrider
When: 21 Mar 23 16:28
I'm going for the week Ronnie , going to Newton Abbot and Bath on the Friday before returning home..
By:
ronnie rails
When: 21 Mar 23 16:32
Workrider.

pm me your address  how many do you need.

Ronnie.
By:
workrider
When: 21 Mar 23 16:37
Done Ronnie..
By:
ronnie rails
When: 21 Mar 23 16:41
Workrider
will send you a ticket in the next couple of days
Anybody need a ticket for the April meeting.

Ronnie.
By:
workrider
When: 21 Mar 23 16:48
Thanks Ronnie..
By:
jimnast
When: 21 Mar 23 17:01
I would like one Ronnie if that’s possible no worries if already gone
By:
ronnie rails
When: 21 Mar 23 17:37
Jimnast

pm me your address and i will send you a ticket for the 2 days.

Ronnie.
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 21 Mar 23 17:47
jimnast the Wednesday meeting April 19th is a RTV ticket day which i wont be attending but if ya missus wants to go giv me a shout  and i will order two tickets for yous - you can always sell one for a tenner or whatever such as i did at Warwick to a lad that was just about to spend £20 on a ticket and was more than happy to buy my spare saving himself a tenner
By:
jimnast
When: 21 Mar 23 18:11
Cheers Smirnoff that’s very kind of you I do have two from Ruk for Wednesday it was Thursday I needed them.

Thanks Ronnie I will pm you not to clever at that sort of thing but have managed in the past.
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 21 Mar 23 19:23
We are not going to Aintree this year for the first time since 1980, used to be eight of us on Grand National day and the wives and girlfriends on the Thursday. Down to three on the Saturday last year and four on the Thursday. Might be our age or it might be the £7.20 a pint and £150 each just to get in. We LOVED The Thursday and it was The Best Day and Highlight of our year, they have out-priced themselves and for the first time ever there are still tickets left and it is not SOLD OUT..
By:
barstool
When: 21 Mar 23 20:07
All ready got ours ronnie thank you, but a commendable offer none the less.

Got very reasonable hotel in Dunbleton about 15 miles north of the course.

Very much looking forward to going again.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 21 Mar 23 23:05
Jimnast

got your pm but you have not put on where you want them sending to.

Ronnie.
By:
jimnast
When: 22 Mar 23 08:27
BlushSorry Ronnie is it a phone number or an address you need .
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