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kipper
09 Mar 23 13:19
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all firms are offering n.r.n.b on champion chase. there are 9 declared today so it's first 3 places. what happens if bet e.w. today but less than 8 run. Is it still first 3 like an ordinary ante post bet would be or are with a run bets settled differently?
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Report saxon farm March 9, 2023 1:27 PM GMT
Yes still 3 places.
Report stewarts rise March 9, 2023 1:28 PM GMT
I should know the answer but don't, haven't bet on these Ante post markets for years, bet 356 are nrnb all cheltenham races now, actually did a few EW multiples last night, so interested to know the answer.
Report longbridge March 9, 2023 5:57 PM GMT
I am always ready to hear some firm has found a new way to be devious, but my understanding is that the rules of the major firms are that bets in *all* Antepost markets are struck at the place terms in force when the bet is struck, and going NRNB on those markets is only a punter-friendly concession by the bookies and not a change to that rule?
Report duffy March 9, 2023 6:02 PM GMT
Yeah, it's an antepost bet at the end of the day with place terms ATM of 3 places.
Report swiftynifty March 9, 2023 6:08 PM GMT
if only 4 horses were to run you'd imagine they'd have something hidden away in the rules to prevent payment.
Report stewarty b March 9, 2023 6:11 PM GMT
mmmm, so if I have 100 EW on Editeur Du Gite @ 6/1 1/5th the odds and the top two in the betting become none runners along say, with
Gentleman De Mee I still get 6/1 1/5th the odds?
Report FOYLESWAR March 9, 2023 6:34 PM GMT
just a word of warning if you have done nrnb in the shops ,  i backed menorah (yes it was a long time ago) each way in a laddies weeks before the race nrnb ,on the day of the race there were only 5 or 6 runners menorah came 3rd ,when i went to collect the place money the shop till /machine made it a loser , bird behind the counter said its only 6 runners its a loser , they were busy so i said ill come back in the morning ,went back next morning asked the bird to phone head office and they told her to pay out . maybe the tills are more savvy nowadays but just a heads up.
Report FOYLESWAR March 9, 2023 6:35 PM GMT
menorah in the champ chase ^^^^^
Report stewarty b March 9, 2023 6:37 PM GMT
R.Johnson Foyles?
Report eric_morris March 9, 2023 8:57 PM GMT
How’s the ground with all the rain and snow going to affect your NRNB bets with sht prices and not able to decide on the day which to back? Clever, very clever.
Report FOYLESWAR March 9, 2023 10:11 PM GMT
hobbs trained it stewy so in all probability johnson rode ot ,in the wheatly blue  silks iirc.
Report stewarty b March 9, 2023 10:19 PM GMT
Remember the horse well Foyles. Backed it a few times and it's last race.....



2:25
Sandown
29 Apr 2017
bet365 Oaksey Chase (Grade 2)
(Class 1) (5yo+) (2m6f164yds) 2m6½f Good 21 fences
1st £28,609 2nd £10,819 3rd £5,484 4th £2,799 5th £1,474



Result
Analysis
My Ratings
Past Winners
POS. (DRAW)   
HORSE / SP
TRAINER / JOCKEY
AGE    WGT    OR    TS    RPR    MR   
1

Runner Jacket
2. Menorah  (IRE) 9/4
Richard Johnson
Philip Hobbs
12    1110    162    112    170    –   
Led 2nd to 3rd, stayed close up, pressed leader 12th, led 15th, drew clear 3 out, 10 lengths ahead from next, tired and driven out from last but kept on splendidly, retired with honours




Never seen that before. Overall I must have lost backing it but definitely one for the placepot!
Report kipper March 13, 2023 4:38 PM GMT
regarding number of places paid out on ante post e.w. bets I cannot get an answer from the bookmakers' online robots or staff in the shop. If I lay place bet on exchange for first 3 and horse comes 3rd but no payout from bookmakers I've lost twice.
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