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crystalhunt
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1987 The Thinker.
Due to a snow storm, the race was delayed for 80 minutes despite the course still having a carpet of snow. The Thinker, who made a massive mistake three out almost unshipping Ridley Lamb, ralied on the run in to beat the gallant Cybrandian who had led all the way.Prize money was a then record £55k to the winner

Brilliant comentary from Peter O'Sullevan

Trainer Arthur Stephenson was not at Cheltenham but was saddling other runners at Hexam.The Thinker was a fancied 13/2 and was completing a hatrick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXQkP2-UuGo&ab_channel=RacingTV

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By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 11:19
Pocket talk Al boom photos first gold cup

The Dickinson 5 and dawn run would take some beating


But my all time favourite moment in the gold cup was when for a few strides kauto and Denman went on only for the younger long run to spoil it.
By:
differentdrum
When: 08 Mar 23 11:21
Not what you were looking for, but I can think of my two worst punting memories - The Fellow being touched off at 50/1 (fortunately saver on Garrison Savannah eased the blow) and Go Ballistic finishing second at 100/1 (no saver).

In a positive sense it would be Looks Like Trouble although I made the mistake of not getting on early after Wetherby. I think he was the ideal Gold Cup horse, massively underrated, and might well have won three Gold Cup's but for injury. Huge achievement from Chance to get two Gold Cup winners in four years.
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 11:39
People paid a lot of attention to the fall of nick dundee in the sun alliance forgetting looks like trouble still ended up winning by a distance,the horse a distance behind in 2 nd had won the grade one feltham at kempton and beaten collier bay 15 lengths at ascot giving him 7 lb
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 08 Mar 23 11:45
Call me a soppy ole softy, and no marks for originality, but Best Mate's third Gold Cup. Deffo one for the wet hankie brigade.

Drama as Paul Carberry tried to keep him boxed-in on the run to the second last, 'Shock' Thornton going via the Irish Sea on Sir Rembrandt, two super jumps from 'Matey' just when he needed them, and Terry and 'Hen' in an emotional brace once Arkle's achievement had been emulated.

I'm filling up 'ere Cry
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 08 Mar 23 11:46
*embrace
By:
Llamedos
When: 08 Mar 23 11:48
Fortunate to be there for the Dickinson 5, but although not the greatest Gold Cup by far, Desert Orchid's win when everything was supposedly against it(most of today's trainer would not have let him run) was amazing.
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 11:52
Llamedos

What other part of Cheltenham history happened that day ?
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 11:54
Regardless of the horse he beat George of course that was a wonderful day.
By:
differentdrum
When: 08 Mar 23 11:56
Jimnast,

I was on Looks Like Trouble at a big price for that Sun Alliance, but irrespective of that, I still think Looks Like Trouble would have won ten lengths. He jumped and stayed, two useful attributes round Cheltenham. I think subsequent events confirmed Nick Dundee as a non stayer. They ended up dropping him back in trip. I am sure this discussion has been done to death.
By:
saxon farm
When: 08 Mar 23 11:56
Eliogsrty
By:
Callisto-moon
When: 08 Mar 23 11:58
denman vs kauto 2008
By:
sixtwosix
When: 08 Mar 23 12:08
1983 - the greatest for me ....by the greatest trainer
1979 - Alverton and Tied Cottage going to the last in the snow.

1986 - Wayward Lad beaten by the handicapper was the worst for me .......not even worthy of mention the low mark races of Synchronised,  Cool Dawn , Cool Ground............
By:
stewarts rise
When: 08 Mar 23 12:18
The 1973 race always lives in the memory for me with that great Walwyn chaser The Dikler getting up on the run in to just edge out everyones favourite jumper Pendil with dual winner L'Escargot back in 4th i think, even O'Sullivan was calling Pendil the winner coming up to the last, marvellous stirring excitement.
By:
crystalhunt
When: 08 Mar 23 12:32
1957 Sundew 20/1 ridden by Fred Winter. Race was run on a Friday and I was in school. Teacher asked to go to the staff room to find out what won. I skipped back to class with the good news. My dad had put 6d EW on for me with the street corner bookie. No doubt the bet was written in pencil on the back of a woodie packet.Laugh

When I started backing for real Fred Winter was my favourite trainer.
By:
crystalhunt
When: 08 Mar 23 12:44
obviously that's the national memoryExcitedLaugh
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 12:48
Correct saxon
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 13:12
Saxon

Can you remember the name of the jockey ?
By:
penzance
When: 08 Mar 23 13:31
Jodami,lovely chaser who ended up a nice price on the
day.
By:
saxon farm
When: 08 Mar 23 13:40
jimnast
Caroline Beasley.  It was my first ever visit to the festival, can’t quite remember what won the 1st race that day!
By:
jimnast
When: 08 Mar 23 13:49
Pretty sure it as some old nag that beat his stable companion
By:
The Sawyer
When: 08 Mar 23 13:50
Silver Buck for me - didn't have a penny on him.

He was my favourite racehorse, and still is, but I thought his chance of winning the Gold Cup had gone the year before.

From a financial point of view the Lord Winderemere's year (possibly the worst Gold Cup ever) where my third placepot selection The Giant Bolster sneaked into third - now that was a day!!!!
By:
punchestown
When: 08 Mar 23 20:49
Imperial Call with my 33/1 AP voucher in my pocket.Cool
By:
driver2
When: 09 Mar 23 05:33
"The mare is beginning to get up", immortal words from the great Peter O'Sullivan. As much as I wanted Wayward Lad to win, Dawn Run's will always be one of the great Gold Cups.
By:
skiptoomaloumacari
When: 09 Mar 23 08:11
The Thinker was the first Gold Cup i attended............fancied since he won the Rowland Merrick at Christmas!!!
By:
gemini01
When: 09 Mar 23 12:32
The best for me, i would have to concur with driver2 synopsis  and the worst without doubt to me was that utter dodo Andrew Thornton's effort on Sir Rembrandt in 2004, (pocket talking with a 66/1 betting slip, tears)....
By:
salmon spray
When: 09 Mar 23 13:09
The GREAT MATCH of 1964
Mill House was hailed as the greatest chaser ever and had seen off his Irish challenger,Arkle,in The Hennessy ( albeit the latter had made what with hindight was probably a race-losing mistake 3 out ).
Mill House was rightly favourite though. I think only two others turned out and they were somewhere in the next county. Mill House tried to make all and his jumping was as spectacular as ever. He was taking 2 or 3 lengths off Arkle in the air but somewhat ominously for a GB supporter,the leaner,more athletic Irish horse always seemed to make it up in the next 100 yds. Ridden for speed unlike when he was at his real peak the next 2 and a half seasons,Arkle clearly had the giant's measure coming into the home straight. I'm fairly sure it was on the old course so there would only have been one fence in the straight. I was 13 and heartbroken. I still can't remember how I wagged it off school ( or was it run on a Sat ? ).
By:
Hayden
When: 09 Mar 23 13:29
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cheltenham+gold+cup+1964&&view=detail&mid=9CF21627FD23E8292F279CF21627FD23E8292F27&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcheltenham%2Bgold%2Bcup%2B1964%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

Not sure about the day Salmon , can't find anything to suggest it was other than the final festival day.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 09 Mar 23 13:46
Surprised nobody has put forward Dessie, defying all the experts to win on atrocious ground, over a trip too far, going left handed etc, but the peoples horse proved them including myself to win to huge cheers from the crowd, wonderful.
By:
Hayden
When: 09 Mar 23 13:48
Would have done stew but not got over backing Yahoo at 40/1 e/way in the morning at Stanley Racing.
By:
ged
When: 09 Mar 23 13:52
salmon - yes it was a Saturday. The festival was run Thurs to Sat that year. Mill House had won his last 6, going back nearly 18 months, and Arkle had won 12 of his last 13 - he'd raced 6 times already that season.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Mar 23 13:54
Hello ged hope your well

If you have time could you try and find out the off time of the 1987 Cathcart won by half free please
By:
Hayden
When: 09 Mar 23 14:00
Remember working that day Jimnast and it was touch and go whether it would make the 6.30 legal deadline , think it just made it in time.

Super Ged will find out for sure  Happy
By:
ged
When: 09 Mar 23 14:06
Hello jimnast.

Don't know I'm afraid. Scheduled off time was 5:15, and Gold Cup was delayed 1hr 20 mins, so I could only guess.
By:
ged
When: 09 Mar 23 14:15
Here's film of the last 2 fences. Half Free doing his thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXz2HhBkD1U&ab_channel=espmadrid

..looks a bit dark, and plenty of snow round about.
By:
Hayden
When: 09 Mar 23 14:18
All i remember is still having customers in the shop , so it was either just before 6.30pm or i broke the law.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Mar 23 14:26
My guess ged was around 1845 I was talking to someone about it the other day,I have all the sporting life’s from the 80s but just can’t get to them at the moment the off time will be in the race report .
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Mar 23 14:28
Sorry Hayden it was you I was talking to it about just trying to find out the actual time just out of interest.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Mar 23 14:29
On the basis of a 1 hour 20 minute delay you would think it was earlier than I thought.
By:
Hayden
When: 09 Mar 23 14:42
Yes i would say just before the 6.30pm deadline Jimnast , it all seemed a frantic rush to cram in before 6.30pm as the alternative was abandon the race as there was no message i can remember to allow an extended curfew , so pretty sure no shop would have gone beyond the 6.30 unless behind closed doors.

Be good if you could find out to satisfy curiosity  Happy
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