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Pocket talk Al boom photos first gold cup
The Dickinson 5 and dawn run would take some beating But my all time favourite moment in the gold cup was when for a few strides kauto and Denman went on only for the younger long run to spoil it. |
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Not what you were looking for, but I can think of my two worst punting memories - The Fellow being touched off at 50/1 (fortunately saver on Garrison Savannah eased the blow) and Go Ballistic finishing second at 100/1 (no saver).
In a positive sense it would be Looks Like Trouble although I made the mistake of not getting on early after Wetherby. I think he was the ideal Gold Cup horse, massively underrated, and might well have won three Gold Cup's but for injury. Huge achievement from Chance to get two Gold Cup winners in four years. |
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People paid a lot of attention to the fall of nick dundee in the sun alliance forgetting looks like trouble still ended up winning by a distance,the horse a distance behind in 2 nd had won the grade one feltham at kempton and beaten collier bay 15 lengths at ascot giving him 7 lb
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Call me a soppy ole softy, and no marks for originality, but Best Mate's third Gold Cup. Deffo one for the wet hankie brigade.
Drama as Paul Carberry tried to keep him boxed-in on the run to the second last, 'Shock' Thornton going via the Irish Sea on Sir Rembrandt, two super jumps from 'Matey' just when he needed them, and Terry and 'Hen' in an emotional brace once Arkle's achievement had been emulated. I'm filling up 'ere ![]() |
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*embrace
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Fortunate to be there for the Dickinson 5, but although not the greatest Gold Cup by far, Desert Orchid's win when everything was supposedly against it(most of today's trainer would not have let him run) was amazing.
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Llamedos
What other part of Cheltenham history happened that day ? |
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Regardless of the horse he beat George of course that was a wonderful day.
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Jimnast,
I was on Looks Like Trouble at a big price for that Sun Alliance, but irrespective of that, I still think Looks Like Trouble would have won ten lengths. He jumped and stayed, two useful attributes round Cheltenham. I think subsequent events confirmed Nick Dundee as a non stayer. They ended up dropping him back in trip. I am sure this discussion has been done to death. |
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Eliogsrty
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denman vs kauto 2008
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1983 - the greatest for me ....by the greatest trainer
1979 - Alverton and Tied Cottage going to the last in the snow. 1986 - Wayward Lad beaten by the handicapper was the worst for me .......not even worthy of mention the low mark races of Synchronised, Cool Dawn , Cool Ground............ |
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The 1973 race always lives in the memory for me with that great Walwyn chaser The Dikler getting up on the run in to just edge out everyones favourite jumper Pendil with dual winner L'Escargot back in 4th i think, even O'Sullivan was calling Pendil the winner coming up to the last, marvellous stirring excitement.
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1957 Sundew 20/1 ridden by Fred Winter. Race was run on a Friday and I was in school. Teacher asked to go to the staff room to find out what won. I skipped back to class with the good news. My dad had put 6d EW on for me with the street corner bookie. No doubt the bet was written in pencil on the back of a woodie packet.
![]() When I started backing for real Fred Winter was my favourite trainer. |
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obviously that's the national memory
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Correct saxon
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Saxon
Can you remember the name of the jockey ? |
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Jodami,lovely chaser who ended up a nice price on the
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jimnast
Caroline Beasley. It was my first ever visit to the festival, can’t quite remember what won the 1st race that day! |
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Pretty sure it as some old nag that beat his stable companion
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Silver Buck for me - didn't have a penny on him.
He was my favourite racehorse, and still is, but I thought his chance of winning the Gold Cup had gone the year before. From a financial point of view the Lord Winderemere's year (possibly the worst Gold Cup ever) where my third placepot selection The Giant Bolster sneaked into third - now that was a day!!!! |
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Imperial Call with my 33/1 AP voucher in my pocket.
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"The mare is beginning to get up", immortal words from the great Peter O'Sullivan. As much as I wanted Wayward Lad to win, Dawn Run's will always be one of the great Gold Cups.
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The Thinker was the first Gold Cup i attended............fancied since he won the Rowland Merrick at Christmas!!!
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The best for me, i would have to concur with driver2 synopsis and the worst without doubt to me was that utter dodo Andrew Thornton's effort on Sir Rembrandt in 2004, (pocket talking with a 66/1 betting slip, tears)....
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The GREAT MATCH of 1964
Mill House was hailed as the greatest chaser ever and had seen off his Irish challenger,Arkle,in The Hennessy ( albeit the latter had made what with hindight was probably a race-losing mistake 3 out ). Mill House was rightly favourite though. I think only two others turned out and they were somewhere in the next county. Mill House tried to make all and his jumping was as spectacular as ever. He was taking 2 or 3 lengths off Arkle in the air but somewhat ominously for a GB supporter,the leaner,more athletic Irish horse always seemed to make it up in the next 100 yds. Ridden for speed unlike when he was at his real peak the next 2 and a half seasons,Arkle clearly had the giant's measure coming into the home straight. I'm fairly sure it was on the old course so there would only have been one fence in the straight. I was 13 and heartbroken. I still can't remember how I wagged it off school ( or was it run on a Sat ? ). |
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cheltenham+gold+cup+1964&&view=detail&mid=9CF21627FD23E8292F279CF21627FD23E8292F27&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dcheltenham%2Bgold%2Bcup%2B1964%26FORM%3DHDRSC3
Not sure about the day Salmon , can't find anything to suggest it was other than the final festival day. |
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Surprised nobody has put forward Dessie, defying all the experts to win on atrocious ground, over a trip too far, going left handed etc, but the peoples horse proved them including myself to win to huge cheers from the crowd, wonderful.
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Would have done stew but not got over backing Yahoo at 40/1 e/way in the morning at Stanley Racing.
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salmon - yes it was a Saturday. The festival was run Thurs to Sat that year. Mill House had won his last 6, going back nearly 18 months, and Arkle had won 12 of his last 13 - he'd raced 6 times already that season.
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Hello ged hope your well
If you have time could you try and find out the off time of the 1987 Cathcart won by half free please |
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Remember working that day Jimnast and it was touch and go whether it would make the 6.30 legal deadline , think it just made it in time.
Super Ged will find out for sure ![]() |
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Hello jimnast.
Don't know I'm afraid. Scheduled off time was 5:15, and Gold Cup was delayed 1hr 20 mins, so I could only guess. |
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Here's film of the last 2 fences. Half Free doing his thing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXz2HhBkD1U&ab_channel=espmadrid ..looks a bit dark, and plenty of snow round about. |
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All i remember is still having customers in the shop , so it was either just before 6.30pm or i broke the law.
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My guess ged was around 1845 I was talking to someone about it the other day,I have all the sporting life’s from the 80s but just can’t get to them at the moment the off time will be in the race report .
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Sorry Hayden it was you I was talking to it about just trying to find out the actual time just out of interest.
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On the basis of a 1 hour 20 minute delay you would think it was earlier than I thought.
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Yes i would say just before the 6.30pm deadline Jimnast , it all seemed a frantic rush to cram in before 6.30pm as the alternative was abandon the race as there was no message i can remember to allow an extended curfew , so pretty sure no shop would have gone beyond the 6.30 unless behind closed doors.
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