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By:
the dealer
When: 13 Feb 23 17:54
Went to Redcar for the first time last year and I thought it was okay, even though it was nearly a 400 mile round trip.
Ripon is brilliant and would probably be my top as well.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 13 Feb 23 17:56
Exactly, if there was any group that needed it less for me this would be it, but maybe I am bias.

To go back to the original posters point it cant be cost effective to try something otherwise surely on days like this where the racing was blatently going to be dire from approx 3-4 days ago...you'd think they might try something.

£15-20 entry, instant coffee, OAPS food or overpriced burgers I'm ok thanks.
By:
sparrow
When: 13 Feb 23 18:18
ItsMeSwaddle 13 Feb 23 17:56 
Exactly, if there was any group that needed it less for me this would be it, but maybe I am bias.





I don't have a bias with regards to who should be ripped off and would like to see a fair price for all, similar perhaps to what is charged in most other countries.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 13 Feb 23 18:29
Well said to be fair, everyones turg anorl that.
By:
hong kong fooey
When: 13 Feb 23 18:32
Redcar is my local course, ive turned down free tickets no end of times. Much prefer Ripon and Thirsk.
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 13 Feb 23 18:42
Evening jimnast - just come back to thread - aye my itinerary consists of following

8th Catterick then travelling onto Donny dogs night time - stopping in Thorne - will probs hav to miss either last 2 or deffo the last to make it in time
9th Travelling onto Southwell  for races and then travelling onto Leicester after racing stopping over for 2 nights
10th Im off to Leicester where its free entry courtesy of RTV as mentioned earlier in thread
11th Back on my travels to Wolves races afternoon then Monmore dogs Sat night
12th Warwick
13th Stratford
14th -17th - all 4 days of festival - cheap seats on the Thursday in Best Mate enclosure otha 3 days in Tatts but fairly confident we will end up in club enclosure cos if last years experience is anything to go by then it will be easy enough to get in there (going wiv halcyon days and travelling in each day from Worcester where hal found a gud place to stop last year at a reasonable price )
Then i will make my way back up North but not b4 taking in Uttoxeter on the Saturday  so aye ive got a busy time ahead of me GrinGrinGrin
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 13 Feb 23 18:49
Got to agree re Ripon - a cracking track whereas whilst i do enjoy racing days out to York i just find it a bit too big for my liking
By:
workrider
When: 13 Feb 23 19:14
Loved Redcar a much underrated track and it surprised me viewing wise a super track to watch racing...Ripon and peoples love of it amazes me , a track where the first 3 furlongs are blocked out , is simply not good enough .
By:
The Knight
When: 13 Feb 23 22:33
Fascinating that earlier in the thread people struggle to win at Beverley. They are not alone, as a lot of the people I see around the tracks I go to also find it hard there.

But, I'm a member there and have been for 10 years. In 8 of those 10 years, Beverley has been my most profitable track. I have looked long and hard at my extensive records and think it may be because I have become used to picking the right type of races at Beverly to bet upon, rather than the right type of horse.

Good thread this but it started off with a view on Catterick. Well, having been to a good number of flat meetings there the past 10 years I finally did a jumps card on North Yorkshire Grand National Day back in January.

Now, no track appeals when you lose - which I did that day - but I have never had such an uncomfortable viewing day as that bl**dy afternoon. The sun was low in the sky (as might be expected in winter) and was opposite the stands all afternoon. Very hard not to be blinded by it and there was also a very strong wind that made standing at the back of the stands hard work. I must admit the day had a better 'feel' to it that some flat days there when, on an overcast afternoon with a small crowd, it has felt dire, but my jumping experience there will not be repeated anytime soon!

Lastly, sorry but what a mean-minded view about OAP's getting concessions. Yes, a fair price should be charged for all but why complain because someone is getting something you are not? Good luck to anyone getting any concession, that's what I say!
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 00:14
Why should OAP’s deserve to get any concession please?

I’ve already stated you don’t take anything with you - that is my reasoning.

To be honest without tarring everyone with the same brush but proper makes me laugh when you are stood in the stand with a rip off £7 burger and you see some old boy that has smuggled his own squashed Cheese and Onion sarnie in, sorry to laugh if the theoretical bloke in question couldn’t afford anything more, but I can gtee most of the time just a generational thing that same old people are tighter!!


Lastly good to see you are winning at Beverley!!!
Is just some people that never seem to lose, I aspire to be like that, happy days!
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 00:18
Basically look at it this way.

I am young I wish to have the Sport in 20 years like, said OAP likely long goneski…

I’ll be off racing regardless at full price…don’t you worry about me…

Do I want to Sport to die because Mr OAP paid a 10er rather than a score that everyone else paid? No not really.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 Feb 23 08:36
Good morning Smirnoff

That’s a proper trip ,never been to either of them dog tracks how many paying public would you expect to turn up ?

Leicester is a track I’ve not been to for quite a while must make the effort this year I like the place,been to Stratford for that fixture and to be honest always found it a distraction for what coming up over the next 4 days,good news for midlands national day is stoke city are at home at 3 o’clock which makes the afternoon racing a more enjoyable experience.

Worcester What a great place to stay for Cheltenham and if you and halcyon like good beer then I have a nap for you it’s called the dragon inn just on the way out of the town centre past foregate station on the left hand side,

Have a great trip and good luck
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Feb 23 08:38
Swaddle, you need to understand that many pensioners are struggling to make ends meet never mind going the races. They won't be taking "anything with them" other than their memories.
By:
brians
When: 14 Feb 23 08:46
Well I'm an oap and love Ponte. Great viewing, lovely staff and management and a grandstand … for £4 entry . Great day out.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 Feb 23 08:48
Nice new cafe down there Brian’s
By:
Manoleeds
When: 14 Feb 23 09:51
And Ponty let's you take your own food in apart from Members.
By:
The Knight
When: 14 Feb 23 11:14
3 things to reply about.

1/ Swaddle - Yes, some OAP's don't need the concessions - I'm 63 and don't need them, but I still take them. We do seem to have a tradition of concessions in the UK for older people when older people often have the most money. Perhaps that should change? BUT, you will be old one day and then let us see what you think! BTW - I really don't think that concessions for OAP's will make or break racetracks! Their crunch time will come if/when the media rights cash dries up. 

2/ Swaddle again. No, you have that wrong about some people never losing. Those of us who make a profit in the long run (year on year, but not all years) lose plenty of times but because we put in the study and have discipline we win. The other advantage I, and others who make it pay, often have is a big enough bank to withstand the lean periods. No good punting if you have to stop to gather funds every few weeks / months. That was me in the 1980's when I was young.

3/ To all, as for my promotion of Leicester's concessions. Well they may be good at concessions but then look at Thursday's card that has just come through - for once there will be more people there than horses!! Will probably include me, all the same. However dire a card is, there is generally some angle to go at it from.
By:
Rigsby
When: 14 Feb 23 11:54
@Swaddle
My point was the difference between £11 online and £19 at the gate.
For non OAP's it's £3 dearer on the gate.
For why?
I thought the mantra is "come racing", so make it attractive to a casual racegoer and in consequence increase the attendance at an ordinary midweek meeting

@Brians
So is it only £4 entry for OAP's in second ring at Ponty?
By:
know all
When: 14 Feb 23 11:54
Always liked catterick and the home made pie in the cafe was good years ago, wetherby was not bad, redcar was always poor food and depressing but ride on the front to see the sea and ice cream made up for it, ripon not my fav and like someone said cant understand why its popular still has asbestos sheets on stands and its not changed in 30 years,beverley always low grade racing and full of well oiled fans but bars were good, food not, newcastle used to be ok the pitmans derby weekend was good and remember stan smith ? the owner shaking everyones  hand to thank them for coming as they left what a good man he was, sedgfield free day on first day of cheltenham what happened to that, food was ok racing and atmosphere always good, the best for me cartmel 20,000 plus on a bank holiday, music funfair and great in town afterwards but seem to be taking the p.. with admission charges now
By:
Manoleeds
When: 14 Feb 23 13:24
Rigsby -as posted above there is a £5 OAP at Wetherby on the gate despite what the website says -you can double check by phoning the course T: 01937 582035
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 14:34

Feb 14, 2023 -- 8:38AM, sparrow wrote:


Swaddle, you need to understand that many pensioners are struggling to make ends meet never mind going the races. They won't be taking "anything with them" other than their memories.


So is everyone I find this view absolutely bizzare. You are going to pass soon so here...have everything a bit cheaper. Think will just agree to disagree.

The Knight well said regarding point 2 and 3.

I cant have point 1 out of principle but its also well explained.

By:
sparrow
When: 14 Feb 23 15:02
A matter of principle for you then swaddle?  Incredible thing to say about a group of old people getting a concession to go racing. Still it is the so called Sport of Kings and we need to keep it expensive so we can keep out groups we dislike.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 15:16
I dont think any group of people deserves a concession more than other people.

and if I had to choose one group that did its not older people, it completely goes against the motto of everyones turf?
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 15:16
Excluding kids that should be let in for free...as the main product is gambling which ofc cannot be undertaken.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 15:18
Why does someone that is 72 that has had EVERY CHANCE to secure their future financially for the past 50 odd years deserve a ticket any cheaper than:

-A spotty 19 year old teenager that nobody will take seriously just purely because of his age so he is flipping burgers for 8 bob an hour?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 14 Feb 23 15:22
swaddle = greta funberg..
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Feb 23 15:30
Well that 19 year old needs to get out and vote just like the Boomer generation did and of course still do.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 14 Feb 23 15:44
I'm not even gunna respond to that farcical comment.
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Feb 23 15:48
Truth hurts does it?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 14 Feb 23 15:52
yes,even rico is telling you.
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