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sageform
12 Feb 23 11:43
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Some colours are kept or sold but some go. Sheikh Abu Ali Khamsin, Nicky Phillips, Gerry Oldham, Lord Roseberry, Carlo Vittadini, Lady Beaverbrook, Duchess of Westminster all come quickly to mind.
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Report punchestown February 13, 2023 6:28 PM GMT
Mr G J van der Ploeg,think it was Green with large white strip and sleeves,orange cap,had a lot of horses with Bill Marshall.
Report blackbarn February 13, 2023 6:58 PM GMT
Correct Punchestown!    Now a hard one!   Whose racing colours were Silver Grey with Black Buttons and a Black velvet cap. Late 60's into the 70's. Another clue to follow if no one gets it.
Report Deptford February 13, 2023 7:00 PM GMT
Nelson Bunker Hunt, great name, great colours
Report blackbarn February 13, 2023 7:10 PM GMT
Bunker Hunt - Light and Dark Green checks. Light Green Sleeve and a White cap.
Report blackbarn February 13, 2023 7:13 PM GMT
The silver grey and black colours were a jockey turned trainer
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 13, 2023 7:14 PM GMT
Charles Engelhard Jr

Red, Green and Yellow.

Traffic lights Wink
Report Deptford February 13, 2023 7:15 PM GMT
When I was 15 I got a great book for Xmas, every racing colour registered, loved looking through it, no idea where it is now
Report FOYLESWAR February 13, 2023 7:49 PM GMT
not gone thru the thread but ravi tikoo anyone remember his colours ?
Report CROPSICK February 13, 2023 7:52 PM GMT
apt Marcos Lemos, blue and white half i think.
Report CROPSICK February 13, 2023 7:52 PM GMT
captain
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 13, 2023 7:55 PM GMT
https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30926221404&cm_sp=collec...
Report punchestown February 13, 2023 7:56 PM GMT
not gone thru the thread but ravi tikoo anyone remember his colours ?



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Think it was blue with yellow sleeves and sideways yellow box on body with a yellow cap,not sure though and don't want to google.
Report blackbarn February 13, 2023 7:57 PM GMT
Ravi Tikkoo - Lemon, Royal Blue diamond and sleeves
Report punchestown February 13, 2023 7:59 PM GMT
Ravi Tikkoo - Lemon, Royal Blue diamond and sleeves

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I wasn't a million miles away..Laugh
Report blackbarn February 13, 2023 7:59 PM GMT
Punchestown - The colours you quote are quite similar to those of Mrs Tikkoo - Royal Blue, White disc, Gold sleeves and Blue and Gold quartered cap
Report punchestown February 13, 2023 8:01 PM GMT
Thanks |Blackbarn.
Report FOYLESWAR February 13, 2023 8:02 PM GMT
excellent knowledge of colours lads well done
Report Black Sam Bellamy February 13, 2023 8:27 PM GMT
Charles St George of Ardross fame
Black, White Chevron and Cap
Think they later became Lucayan Stud.
Report Deptford February 13, 2023 8:52 PM GMT
I have a signed picture of Lester in those colours, To Terry, Happy Birthday, Lester Piggott, pride of place
Report punchestown February 13, 2023 9:03 PM GMT
John Mulhern back in the day when you could put mostly whatever you wanted on the silks-"Red with a White question mark on the back and front".


Galmoy winning the Stayers twice amongst the more high profile carriers of them.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 14, 2023 6:10 AM GMT
Guy Reeds' silks were easily recognizable back in time, Black and Gold squares (Chessboard arrangement) with Pink sleeves and cap. Still used after his death by the family (?) but i don't know if they still are.
Report TommyWestofLanark February 14, 2023 6:25 AM GMT
Andrew.Still being used I think.K Ryan.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 14, 2023 9:04 AM GMT
Thanks Tommy

I haven't noticed the colours recently
Report TommyWestofLanark February 14, 2023 9:20 AM GMT
Andrew.Memory not what it was but sure I saw them towards the end of 2022. Liked his horses in big handicaps back in the day. Sure he had a horse placed in the Derby ridden by Piggott who jocked off maybe Bleasdale or even AJ Russell.
Report blackbarn February 14, 2023 10:30 AM GMT
Tommy - Shotgun, 4th in Shergars Derby, ridden by................L Piggott. Well remembered.
Report TommyWestofLanark February 14, 2023 10:46 AM GMT
Thanks Blackbarn. I might be getting the jocked off confused with Dakota in a big Handicap at Goodwood.
Report blackbarn February 14, 2023 10:49 AM GMT
No you are not.  Lester rang connections and asked for the ride!!!
Report blackbarn February 14, 2023 1:15 PM GMT
The silver grey and black colours were those of a jockey turned trainer - Silver Grey Black buttons and black velvet cap - No one's got it yet, so more clues

A champion jockey and won several Caribbean Group 1's as a trainer.
Report workrider February 14, 2023 6:30 PM GMT
Blackbarn , was it Scobie..
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 14, 2023 7:11 PM GMT
Bill Marshall.

I can only think he lust have been champion amateur jocket at some point?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves February 14, 2023 7:13 PM GMT
*must have been champion amateur jockey at some point.
Report blackbarn February 14, 2023 7:33 PM GMT
Yes Workrider, Scobie it is. Great Jockey and great colours, they'd fly if they ever came up for sale - Be a battle between Clipper Logistics and Young Hamdan.
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 14, 2023 7:42 PM GMT
Am I heading towards dementia or were there ever a jockeys silks with a quetion mark on. ?? ( dont laugh )
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 14, 2023 7:43 PM GMT
*  question.
Report blackbarn February 14, 2023 7:46 PM GMT
Glasgow - Punchestown posted below - John Mulhern (Galmoy etc) had those colours.  Peter Dimmock (Sportsview fame) beat him to it. He had yellow with a black winning post.
Report TommyWestofLanark February 14, 2023 9:15 PM GMT
Workrider. Well done re Scobie.Had the privilege of seeing him in action couple of times. Outstanding jockey in an era of outstanding riders. The first thing I was drawn to was the size of his hands. Blackbarn/Workrider. I'm afraid that in the company of you guys I'm a low grade plater.Laugh
Report foxy top February 15, 2023 11:54 AM GMT
Peter Pillar colours of Blazing Walker fame were a regular fixture in the 80s

GLASGOWCALLING

I have definitely seen the question mark on the silks in American racing, probably at Breeders Cup as I don't watch much US racing !

Peter Pillar of Blazing Walker fame were a regular fixture in the 80s
Report ronnie rails February 15, 2023 12:35 PM GMT
FOXY TOP First winner I backed at RA had a question  mark  on his back the jockey not the horse.Carlinford Castle.had a fiver on with Fred Binns.
Report foxy top February 15, 2023 12:39 PM GMT
nice one Ronnie, GLASGOWCALLING was wondering if he was going senile trying to think of one with a question mark Grin
Report punchestown February 15, 2023 8:54 PM GMT
You couldn't miss the question mark on Mulhern's silks as it was the full size of the front and back.
Report workrider February 15, 2023 9:40 PM GMT
Tommyofwest lanark, I can be a low grader myself on a bad day..
Report punchestown February 15, 2023 9:46 PM GMT
The Valentine colours were around a lot back then "Pink with purple hearts and pink hat",Cahervillahow and Rathconrath amongst her horses.
Report blackbarn February 16, 2023 8:06 AM GMT
Punchestown - Re Mrs Valentine. Nearly! - her hearts were Cherry not Purple.  Mr Valentines colours were the same but with a distinguishing Cherry cap.
Report foxy top February 16, 2023 8:16 AM GMT
it's funny how you think of old fav horses and imagine the colours in your mind,

thought about Burrough Hill Lad (hooped sleeves) and a few from that era popped into my head,

Wayward Lad - blue and mauve
Combs Ditch - checked yellow and black
Egypt Mill Prince - all white
West Tip - blue with dark cap
Maori Venture - black with orange cap
Dessie - grey sleeves
Norton's Coin - black

feel free to correct me where I've got it wrong !
Report sageform February 16, 2023 8:55 AM GMT
I think that Egypt Mill Prince colours had a fine stripe but mainly white. Egypt Mill was a big restaurant in Nailsworth only 4 miles from where I lived for 50 years and a venue for "special" occasions. I can't recall the owners name. Maori Venture was Jim Joel so Red cap, not orange. The West Tip colours were still around for the Luff family until 2015. Jenny Mould of Charter Party fame among many other good horses was Green with gold stars as I recall, but when Charter Party won the GC, he carried different colours as he was jointly owned with Claire Smith.
Report foxy top February 16, 2023 9:02 AM GMT
thanks for that, talking of Charter Party made the Geoff Hubbard colours poped into my head but I can't think of his horse(s), Mark Dwyer rode I think Laugh
Report sageform February 16, 2023 9:07 AM GMT
Hubbard won the Hennessy once from Jodami who was ridden by Mark Dwyer who seemed to ride Jodami for speed. Next year the real Jodami won the Gold Cup when they went a right gallop all the way thanks to Rushing Wild.
Report ribero1 February 16, 2023 9:11 AM GMT
Strong Promise foxy .
Report TommyWestofLanark February 16, 2023 9:17 AM GMT
Workrider Laugh
Report blackbarn February 16, 2023 9:29 AM GMT
That Strong Promise was a fine looking beast.
Report foxy top February 16, 2023 10:37 AM GMT
thanks ribero, that's why we love horse racing, reminiscing Happy
Report penzance February 16, 2023 10:48 AM GMT
Sibton Abbey was the horse that won the Hennessy @40/1.
21 or 22LB out of the H'cap.
Report TommyWestofLanark February 16, 2023 10:56 AM GMT
Foxy Top. There's a P.Piller with horses at J. Stack in Ireland.Yellow with a blue square.From memory the Pillar horses trained by the great W A Stephenson carried yellow with a blue stripe.The Stack connection is there though (Tommy).Like you I recalled Pillar being the way the name was spelt.All from memory of course.
Report mrcombustible February 16, 2023 11:02 AM GMT
I thought Adrian Maguire won the Hennessy for Hubbard and not Dwyer?
Report foxy top February 16, 2023 11:03 AM GMT
isn't it funny how memory works, for the life of me I wouldn't have remembered who P Cheesbrough was if you asked me but when I clicked on Blazing Walker's form, I recall after Arthur died, his nephew Peter took over the training of the horses for a while, I wonder whatever happened to him !
Report madhatter February 16, 2023 12:01 PM GMT
madhatter • February 12, 2023 10:20 PM GMT
Geoff Hubbard : green, white sleeves, check cap

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Racing+mourns+Geoff+Hubbard%3B+Colleagues+pay+tribute+to+owner-trainer...-a060966276
Report Ekbalco February 16, 2023 3:46 PM GMT
Mrs. Christine Feather.
Report Ekbalco February 16, 2023 3:48 PM GMT
Peter Piller.
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 16, 2023 5:21 PM GMT
Guy Reed
Black and gold squares with pink sleeves and cap.  Very distinctive
Report blackbarn February 16, 2023 5:45 PM GMT
Clydebank - See posts on this thread early morning on the 14th for several on Guy Reed.
Report monarch February 16, 2023 5:51 PM GMT
Sageform - Thanks for the reply re The Thoroughbred Corporation.

Are Sir Stanley Clarkes colours still in circulation?
Report sageform February 16, 2023 7:28 PM GMT
Very much so monarch. There is still a Mr Simon Clarke who had horses with Tom George and John Mackie who still trains Barton Knoll for him.
Report ronnie rails February 16, 2023 8:27 PM GMT
The stockboker from Enfield who had long hair and liked a bet, also for you old time northerners Hipperdrome racing.
Report blackbarn February 16, 2023 9:01 PM GMT
Very good Ronnie!  Very similar except for Terry Ramsdens hoops and Hippodrome's stripes
Report punchestown February 16, 2023 9:07 PM GMT
The old "Daily Mirror Punters Club" colours before the change to the red and white ones were I think Black with a white sash,B & w striped sleeves and red cap?
Report blackbarn February 16, 2023 9:23 PM GMT
I think that's correct Punchestown, because when Noel Whitcomb started the Club, they initially and for a while used Noel's colours which were are as you state (well Flame not Red!!!! - effing pedant!!!). Noel was fired by Robert Maxwell from the Mirror because the "bouncing Czech" didnt like the look of Noel's expense account. Pretty rum given HIS expense account was funded by Mirror pensioners.
Report punchestown February 16, 2023 9:30 PM GMT
Yeah Blackbarn,just going from memory remembering the silks,I used to like those colours,no cigar if not precise?Laugh
Report blackbarn February 16, 2023 9:36 PM GMT
You get all the memory credit Punchestown.  I had to look up Noel's colours to check you were (nearly) rightBlush.
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 16, 2023 10:50 PM GMT
I had to google who was the owner of those colours blackbarn.  In doing so I found he died aged 91 in 2013.  In 2014 his daughter in law died falling down some steps and in 2019 her daughter, his grand daughter, was strangled to death by her boyfriend, a drug addicted German bouncer.
Report foxy top February 17, 2023 12:10 PM GMT
Sir Eric Parker of Seagram fame,

winning the Seagram grand national with a horse called Seagram can only happen in movies (nap)
Report 1st time poster February 17, 2023 2:53 PM GMT
i always remember the colours on that deliah of dickensons,black with pink tasselusa style on the cap,seem to remember a flashy black hunter chaser up kelso way 30yrs or so later wearing them, also sporting them
anyone no who,s they were
Report blackbarn February 17, 2023 3:18 PM GMT
First Time Poster - What is the name of the horse again?  and do you mean Dickinson (as in Michael and Monica)?
Report saxon farm February 17, 2023 3:47 PM GMT
I think he means Delius.
Report foxy top February 17, 2023 3:58 PM GMT
here is Delius against the mighty Desert Orchid, what a race, what an atmosphere !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOdSg2V98ns&t=357s
Report 1st time poster February 17, 2023 5:31 PM GMT
yeh sorry delius anyone remember the hunter,donkey,s yrs later think i saw it run at kelso on tv
Report blackbarn February 17, 2023 5:57 PM GMT
Was the other one Royal Greek?  Was defo Rentons (Exors of) and ran in Hunter Chases.
Report sageform February 17, 2023 6:51 PM GMT
Another long term colour is that of S Nelson who has several horses with with Tom George White with navy blue sleeves, star and cap. The claim to fame was a horse called Galileo-not that one but Galileo (Fr) who won at the Festival as I recall.
Report foxy top February 17, 2023 7:07 PM GMT
talking of French horses, The Fellow's colours were famous for a while with that Marqessa someone before I set off Googling Laugh
Report foxy top February 17, 2023 7:11 PM GMT
Marquesa De Moratalla was the full name and her other good horses were First Gold and Hours after who won the French Derby under Pat Eddery !
Report sageform February 17, 2023 7:30 PM GMT
She was a great friend of Sir Peter O'Sullevan who managed her horses in GB as I recall. I remember a horse of hers called Agistment trained by Jimmy Fitzgerald. It had won a bumper at Haydock and then turned up in the same race a year later with a 7lb penalty. I happened to be there with some friends and because of the colours, I backed it at an amazing 10/1 and it won 10 lengths.
Report foxy top February 17, 2023 7:33 PM GMT
I think Jimmy Fitz also won the St Leger for her with Pat on board, can't remember the horse but recall something running in the Ebor Crazy
Report penzance February 17, 2023 7:43 PM GMT
Sapience came 2nd in the Leger but did
win the Ebor.
Report blackbarn February 17, 2023 7:45 PM GMT
Sage - That was Jan 96.  Horse died at Cheltenham Festival the following year, fell at the first behind Istabraq.
Report sageform February 18, 2023 11:35 AM GMT
Correct. Sharon Nelson has a runner today, What A Steal at Wincanton. Galileo Fr was joint owned with Terry Warner.
Report ged February 18, 2023 11:57 AM GMT
That was Galileo(Pol). There have been plenty of Galileos over the years. The best-named was probably the one by Galivanter out of Tinted Venus. He made his 2yo debut on Sir Ivor's 2000 Guineas card at Newmarket in 1968, but he wasn't much cop, just a low-grade sprint handicapper.

There won't be any more now - at least not in GB, IRE, and perhaps FR.
Report sageform February 18, 2023 12:09 PM GMT
So it was. My memory is imperfect over 27 years. who knows how good the horse could have been?
Report 1st time poster February 18, 2023 1:24 PM GMT
for a poor boy from a poor family galileo did alright for himself
Report ronnie rails February 18, 2023 4:23 PM GMT
A few old timers will remember the colours of Mr Hugh Odenell anybody know what he is upto these days.

just sat having a nice glass of Madri after a very busy day.

Ronnie.
Report foxy top February 18, 2023 4:41 PM GMT
do you mean Hugh O'Donnell of the Finmental fame ?!

I think he had black colours with something white on front !
Report ronnie rails February 18, 2023 5:14 PM GMT
Foxy

That is correct had one called Mentalasanything. he liked a bet ran a few Sauna parlours,

hope you are well.

Ronnie.
Report foxy top February 18, 2023 5:18 PM GMT
cheers mate, I think he had one called Norfolk N Chance and Weatherbys made him change the name Grin
Report ronnie rails February 18, 2023 5:23 PM GMT
Foxy

will have a drink with you at dante meeting will tell you the storey about  Bernard at Ascot the year of the IRA bombings .

Ronnie.
Report foxy top February 18, 2023 5:24 PM GMT
jimnast's other account is foxy,

no problem with the mistake Happy
Report ronnie rails February 18, 2023 5:27 PM GMT
FT

thank you

Ronnie.
Report foxy top February 19, 2023 4:52 PM GMT
Erik Penser colours just won at Newbury by Idy Wood,

can't remember what his best horses were but certainly the colours were famous at one time Crazy
Report penzance February 19, 2023 8:20 PM GMT
Beauchamp Pilot won the Cambridgeshire,also had
the Eclipse wnr a good few years back I think.
Can't recall the name,was a fair price.
Report blackbarn February 19, 2023 8:46 PM GMT
Compton Admiral 20/1
Report blackbarn February 19, 2023 8:49 PM GMT
Penser changed his racing colours sometime in the 70's.   His now Orange, Black Hoop and White cap used to be the very Swedish Blue and Yellow halved with a White cap and Blue diamond.
Report penzance February 19, 2023 8:51 PM GMT
Compton Admiral,that's it.
Cheers.
Report skiptoomaloumacari February 23, 2023 10:24 AM GMT
Great to see the Willie Wumpkins colours being carried by Ruby Valentine today
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