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Llamedos
09 Feb 23 22:20
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With Betfair Hurdle coming up on Saturday, for me I still think of it as the Schweppes.
The Big Handicap Chase at Newbury at the end of November I still think of as the Hennessy.
The Paddy Power Gold Cup at Cheltenham I still think of as the Mackeson.
The Last big Handicap Chase at Sandown in April is still to me the Whitebread.
Anyone else think the same or have any others?

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By:
isleham
When: 09 Feb 23 22:37
If its the Mackeson in November it must be the Massey Ferguson in december
By:
geoff m
When: 09 Feb 23 22:42
Whitbread Gold Cup
By:
geoff m
When: 09 Feb 23 22:42
Doh!!!
By:
geoff m
When: 09 Feb 23 22:46
Bula Hurdle now International
Benson & Hedges Gold Cup now Juddmonte
By:
geoff m
When: 09 Feb 23 22:47
Sun Alliance Hurdle now Ballymore.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 09 Feb 23 23:11
The Topham Chase will always be the Topham Trophy for me. What did they do with the trophy? Melt it down?

Christ knows what the Mildmay of Flete is called these days. Who cares? It's the Mildmay of Flete.

I always make a point of calling the Ryanair Chase the Cathcart, just to emphasize that it's a third-rate consolation prize for horses whose connections are cowards.

And there's a great test for confirming that it's the first day of spring: do find yourself muttering the words 'Clerical Medical Greenham'?
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 09 Feb 23 23:18
Ballymore will always be sun alliance to me.
By:
steerforth
When: 09 Feb 23 23:26
The Liffey is the Irish Sweeps Hurdle
By:
TheAnorak
When: 10 Feb 23 09:15
The 6F and 2M races on Champions Day are the Diadem and the Jockey Club Cup, not whatever fancy name they're given to placate the sponsors.

The latter is a name we gave to the world, even the Yanks have a Jockey Club Cup. It was a disgrace when the name was removed from the UK program.

It's fairly typical of 21st century Britain, that we have a racing authority that freely uses the term 'Heritage Handicap' but seems to have no respect for heritage at all.
By:
windsor knot
When: 10 Feb 23 09:18
thankfully the bromfield sand and gravel handicap chase at ludlow remains true to its name . always an epic contest .
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 23 09:19
Even the arkle bar at Cheltenham is no longer called the arkle barSad
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 23 09:21
Good morning Geoff

I still can it the bula meeting not just the bula hurdle,however I do call the benson and hedges the judmonte,so long they have had there name to it and so many great editions of the race under that banner.
By:
lead on
When: 10 Feb 23 09:41
looking forward to the Waterford Crystal Supreme Novices Hurdle myself...then you know Cheltenham has begun..
By:
onlooker
When: 10 Feb 23 09:57
The Haydock Park Sprint Cup, is still - The Vernons - and 6F round an elbow from the Chute start.

Would have liked to have gone to Castle Irwell Manchester for the November Handicap, too.

Still - at least I managed to go to the Victoria Cup at Ascot .... on a Wednesday.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 23 09:59
Good call onlooker with the vernons I also still call it that much to the annoyance of my son.
By:
salmon spray
When: 10 Feb 23 10:03
Surely all the novice hurdles at the Cheltenham festival are divisions of the Gloucestershire Hurdle and the Stayers Hurdle is the Spa Hurdle and very much a consolation prize for those who can't cut it at 2m.
By:
onlooker
When: 10 Feb 23 10:10
Well-membered there with the Gloucestershire Hurdle - salmon - Named as such until 1974

After that, Waterford Crystal had the Title for around 12 years, too.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 23 10:16
The race title should have read the Gloucester hurdle ran for the benefit of Vincent obrien
By:
Llamedos
When: 10 Feb 23 10:39
Would agree with all the previous posts, especially the comment about the Cathcart, used to be the last race of the meeting on the Thursday, often with only about 7 or 8 runners, used to watch it near the exit, ready for the walk back into town,when the real drinking used to start.
Couple of others I still think of by there Old Names, The Templegate Hurdle at Aintree used to be run on the Saturday a couple of races before the Grand National, The Grand National I still think of as the Martell Grand National(probably more to do with my liking of Brandy) and for some reason I always refer to the Dante as the Mecca Dante stakes.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 23 10:52
Good morning llamedos

The county hurdle and the Cathcart seemed to change quite a bit as to which race had the honour of finishing the festival off back in the days when every race was interesting.
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Feb 23 10:53
Mecca Dante

Can anyone remember what Mecca were the first to have ?
By:
howard
When: 10 Feb 23 10:54
Magnet Cup
By:
Llamedos
When: 10 Feb 23 11:07
Good morning llamedos

The county hurdle and the Cathcart seemed to change quite a bit as to which race had the honour of finishing the festival off back in the days when every race was interesting.

Yes Jimnast I think you are right, didn't the last day order after the Gold Cup go something like the amateurs race( their gold cup) the County Hurdle then the Cathcart, I think they then move the County Hurdle to the last race to keep people there as  a lot of people where disappearing because the Cathcart had so few entries.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 10 Feb 23 11:10
Jimnast.just cleaned the 1982 Mecca hurdle winner at  Sandown Park trophy.
By:
the dealer
When: 10 Feb 23 11:12
Was it ever The Daily Express Triumph Hurdle??
By:
howard
When: 10 Feb 23 11:18
yes. Johnnie Walker Ebor.
By:
onlooker
When: 10 Feb 23 11:20
Yes - the dealer .... and - it used to be run at Hurst Park, too ...

Lester Piggott rode the Winner, once.
By:
the dealer
When: 10 Feb 23 11:22
Every days a learning day lol

Thank You
By:
salmon spray
When: 10 Feb 23 11:31
I remember the Vaux Gold Trophy at a Redcar meeting that ran parallel to Glorious Goodwood. The rest of the Redcar meeting was quite ordinary but the Vaux,a handicap run over 14f+ was I think as valuable as any of the Goodwood handicaps and certainly attracted a decent field. Probably still exists as a 0-60 handicap.
By:
salmon spray
When: 10 Feb 23 11:34
I also seem to remember that when it was first run at Cheltenham The Triumph was at an April meeting not the festival.
By:
scrabbler
When: 10 Feb 23 11:46
Nunthorpe. Bunbury Cup.
By:
TommyWestofLanark
When: 10 Feb 23 16:46
Salmon spray.There was also an Usher/Vaux 1m 7f handicap at Ayr on Glasgow Fair Mondays.
By:
grayhawk
When: 10 Feb 23 17:05
The Cork and Orrery...
By:
onlooker
When: 10 Feb 23 17:21
Good one - grayhawk .... Colloquially called - The Cork and 'Orrible.
By:
paulo47
When: 10 Feb 23 17:42
Said to my mate the other week , ' Was that the old H and T Walker ' at Ascot .
By:
china castle
When: 10 Feb 23 17:55
Well remembered salmon

In 1959, the first running of the VAUX GOLD TANKARD, run over one mile six furlongs, took place and was won by Morecambe, trained by Sam Hall and ridden by Joe Sime. It was described on early 60s racecards as ‘Europe’s greatest handicap’. The last running was in 1980.
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 10 Feb 23 21:25
RSA
By:
punchestown
When: 10 Feb 23 22:20
salmon spray
I remember the Vaux Gold Trophy at a Redcar meeting that ran parallel to Glorious Goodwood. The rest of the Redcar meeting was quite ordinary but the Vaux,a handicap run over 14f+ was I think as valuable as any of the Goodwood handicaps and certainly attracted a decent field. Probably still exists as a 0-60 handicap.


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Don't forget another Redcar race from back in the day "The Andy Capp Handicap" named after the Daily Mirror character.
By:
alun2005
When: 11 Feb 23 00:15
The Observer Gold Cup was I believe the original sponsorship for what became the Racing Post Trophy.

Won by the great Vaguely Noble as I recall. 



Does the Steel Plate and Sections race stil get run at Chelters in early season?
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