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GEORGE.B
02 Feb 23 21:49
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Report GEORGE.B February 2, 2023 9:52 PM GMT
Caan Berry
@CaanBerryTrader
...but it gets far worse.

ITV Racing promotes gambling and makes a fortune from its advertising, surely they know all of these things?

Why do they want to couple gambling with ALCOHOL and talk about in-play betting when CASINO GAMES and SLOTS are at the route of problems?
Report GEORGE.B February 2, 2023 9:55 PM GMT
And speaking of our culture / hobbies being under attack, here's a piece by Neil Clark in The Spectator defending Greyhound Racing

In praise of greyhound racing

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/in-praise-of-greyhound-racing/
Report GEORGE.B February 2, 2023 9:57 PM GMT
^^ that's a separate tweet btw, the e-mail he received from ITV is in the opening link
Report SontaranStratagem February 3, 2023 12:11 AM GMT
Yet again people who dont gamble want to stop others from doing so

I dont get it, I dont understand these people
Report impossible123 February 3, 2023 7:22 AM GMT
The old regime at the Gambling Commission were toothless and incompetent being too chummy with the bookies; their recommendation for stake per spin on fobt was significantly higher - the previous was £100 - now £2. The present over zealous application of Affordability Check (AC) by bookies as advised by GC allegedly has and will impact greater on punters unless a sensible and workable approach is implemented.

But, do not forget why and how AC has come about ie bookies hell-bent on facilitating fobt junkies and gaming/betting addicts fraudulent use of unlawfully acquired or access to funds resulting in colossal amount lost over a short period of time; regular reported mega fines imposed on bookies were not deterrent.

Affordability Check is here to correct the increasing problem of gaming/betting addicts. But, AC has been hijacked by bookies to beat punters in addition to bet restriction and closure of their accounts.
Report sageform February 3, 2023 8:27 AM GMT
I find it strange that a Government (and the lobby groups who push them) find it desirable to stop people losing money on casino games or sports betting while encouraging them to spend on alcohol (the half price deals and subsidy given to pubs and restaurants during lockdown) and of course the worst value gambling medium of all, the National Lottery which is promoted by the Government because they take nearly half of the money staked in tax. Surely any spending on credit card debt, cigarettes, alcohol, luxury goods, foreign holidays etc. above £50 per week should also be subject to affordability checks? None of us can be trusted to spend our money responsibly so Government and do gooders need to have a look at our weekly spend in order to keep us in line.
Report jimnast February 3, 2023 11:10 AM GMT
Well put sontaram
Report xmoneyx February 3, 2023 12:50 PM GMT
im on 25k probably paid for denise coates carpet on her yacht

i dont buy a season ticket any football club

dont smoke

how you spend money is a freedom , dont want any bureaucrat asking me for a bank statement
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 3, 2023 1:12 PM GMT
Ironic really that Affordability Checks will make gambling less affordable
Report dustybin February 3, 2023 1:29 PM GMT
You steal money and spend it all on drugs you are a thief

Steal money and lose it at gambling you a victim ffs
Report SlippyBlue February 3, 2023 1:32 PM GMT
I don't drink, don't smoke nor do I take recreational drugs.
My joy is going racing and also going to Selhurst Park when I can and to have a punt. I'm not hurting anyone, I don't have any debts, it's just what I like doing so leave me in peace to enjoy myself.

That shouldn't really be too much to ask in the greater scheme of things.
Report The Management February 3, 2023 1:34 PM GMT
We need to deregulate thieving - I'm to thick to understand why it is regulated in the first place.
Report Whippin Piccadilly February 3, 2023 1:43 PM GMT
Ed the plank Chamberlain has finally got around to mentioning the main issue facing Horse Racing

Ed Chamberlin: racing cannot afford to lose punters caught up in affordability checks

No, you don't say Ed. We've been talking about it on here for years. They (ITV racing) haven't done a single piece on this issue. It's now getting a bit late in the day to start addressing it!
Report dustybin February 3, 2023 1:56 PM GMT
It doesnt matter what the intended use of stolen money is, the crime of theft supersedes the use.

So many BS stories about people who need to be pitied because they stole with a view to lose it gambling.
Report The Management February 3, 2023 2:17 PM GMT
dusty - how come theft is a crime - surely people should just take more responsibility for the personal possessions? CryLaugh
Report sageform February 3, 2023 2:25 PM GMT
Preventing thieving is getting harder and the penalties are derisory. Why should the cost of a burglar alarm or security camera be as much as the fine for stealing if you are one of the 5% who get caught? Like solar panels, perhaps security systems should be a compulsory fitment in all new houses. Failing that, electrocution systems should be allowed when properties are locked and unoccupied. If you leave stuff lying about (as supermarkets do of course) then theft is made easy but breaking and entering should carry a minimum of 2 years in jail.
Report dustybin February 3, 2023 2:34 PM GMT
Dont think you'd have much cash nicking sainsburys soft white bread.

Think its more embezzlement
Report sageform February 3, 2023 2:37 PM GMT
There was organic steak on offer in Tesco last friday for £40 PER STEAK. And a warning about theft on the shelf. The theft was the price. There is no chemical difference what so ever between organic and "normal" steak.
Report geoff m February 3, 2023 2:53 PM GMT
It can be an addiction that leads to ruined lives.
But so is alcohol & tobacco .
Report steerforth February 3, 2023 3:18 PM GMT
"Horse Racing is hard - Betting on it shouldn't be"
Report jimnast February 3, 2023 3:18 PM GMT
Breaking into someone’s home should be much more the two years sageform
Report longbridge February 3, 2023 9:45 PM GMT
@sageform

"the National Lottery which is promoted by the Government because they take nearly half of the money staked in tax"

Where do you source that number from?  National Lottery Duty is 12% aiui.

53% prizes - 25% "good causes" - 12% duty - the rest spilt between the shop and the operator.
Report stu February 4, 2023 1:17 AM GMT
Is there actually going to be a final enactment of these proper legislations for gambling and 'affordability'?

What a joke term affordability in the current climate when most people can't afford to do most things, let alone gamble!

It's all been done casually, randomly and poorly so far without actual legal guidelines. So when are any actual legal guidelines going to be agreed on?
Report sageform February 4, 2023 12:10 PM GMT
Sorry longbridge, I knew that only 53% went in prizes which is the real issue for anyone looking for value! Must admit I thought that the duty was more but the good causes are often things that Government used to fund from tax.
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