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MillionaireMaker
31 Jan 23 16:17
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Report HappyHibby January 31, 2023 4:19 PM GMT
easy when you've got a 3 second advantage i would suggest.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 31, 2023 4:21 PM GMT
3.2
Report HappyHibby January 31, 2023 4:30 PM GMT
should have said 'minimum 3 sec advantage' tbh...

probably more like 4 secs in certain circumstances.
Report formoftheace January 31, 2023 4:46 PM GMT
Hibb last week the runners were going into the stall on Atr….

BF LV…at the furlong marker….

5f race..
Report HappyHibby January 31, 2023 4:48 PM GMT
plumpton yesterday...

camera angle 1...

horse jumps hurdle...

camera angle 2...

horse hasn't taken off yet...

all above board tho...

nowt to see here...

move on please.
Report formoftheace January 31, 2023 4:50 PM GMT
Newcastle…in fact I think one race suspended, on Atr they just jumped..
Report formoftheace January 31, 2023 4:51 PM GMT
Easy Money for a lot out there….you don’t stand a chance
Report HappyHibby January 31, 2023 4:54 PM GMT
https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popout/VOD/1333245
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 31, 2023 5:14 PM GMT
whats it called when 2 clowns are in convo?
Report now wheres that switch!!! January 31, 2023 5:23 PM GMT
Rico, do you think it would be logistically possible to open an exchange room providing drone pics, and what do you reckon the charge would need to be?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps January 31, 2023 5:31 PM GMT
feasable i suppose..suppliers would ask for a charge for every log in..
Report now wheres that switch!!! January 31, 2023 5:43 PM GMT
Every log in. so if there were 15-20 seats, each time a log in was registered from the seat they would charge an amount on top of the normal fees that use to apply.?
Report now wheres that switch!!! January 31, 2023 5:43 PM GMT
Just someone was thinking about it, he obviously has too much money kicking about, but thought it could boost liquidity? If there is anyone left when this poxy white paper lands Laugh
Report swiftynifty January 31, 2023 5:50 PM GMT
I thought IR was dead?
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 11:15 AM GMT
thats the point swifty, enough players playing off the drone pics may resurrect it to a level worth playing at?
Report dustybin February 1, 2023 11:37 AM GMT
I think you’d be surprised how many are already on the drone
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 11:50 AM GMT
Liquidity doesnt show it thought? The drone players must be bernie flint if thats all the money flying around..?
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 11:51 AM GMT
doesnt show it though*
Report swiftynifty February 1, 2023 12:13 PM GMT
nwts, I don't see betfair 'recruiting' any new blood, in fact can't remember the last advert I saw that even mentioned IR on horse racing. I think a large % of IR money is pre-race offsets.
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 12:27 PM GMT
Sadly seems you are right Swifty, but interestingly from a legal standpoint, betting in running could be exempt from affordibility checks or at least treated differently. Trading in running is completely different from pre race betting. If someone is solely an in running player then they are no different to a commodities or futures trader.
Report The Management February 1, 2023 12:33 PM GMT
Swifty is spot on. The PC was introduced under the pretence it was required to attract "new blood" because the winning players (almost exclusively those with a time advantage) were taking too much out of the "eco-system" too quickly.

Instead they continue to blow it all on marketing casino games and slots. So all that's left to pick off is gazers £2 "keep bet"!
200 drone players versus gaze and his keep bet - yet people wonder where gaze has gone and why the place is tumbleweed!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 1, 2023 2:45 PM GMT
around 60-65 log ins regularly playing from the drone i use..and prob another 100 playing from sub lets...dont ask me how..the game is absolutely brutal.
90% simply has to be FOMO.
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 2:55 PM GMT
Rico, does each log in slow the speed down at all?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 1, 2023 3:42 PM GMT
no..just sharing pics from softwear.
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 3:50 PM GMT
Ah fair enough. Im sure IR could be back to some sort of viable level if those at the top wanted it to be.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 1, 2023 3:55 PM GMT
will never get back to any level..its all controlled with softwear..last 4f there peanuts in most boxes and plenty i know cant desposit decent amounts.
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 1, 2023 5:49 PM GMT
It does seem that the company are obviously making too much from other products to give a fook
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 1, 2023 9:59 PM GMT
company is a bookmaker..not a facilitator.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 1:57 PM GMT
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Sams Call
110
£0.05
£5.50
Sams Call
140
£0.20
£28.00
Sams Call
180
£1.27
£228.60
Sams Call
200
£0.25
£50.00
Sams Call
230
£0.05
£11.50
Sams Call
250
£0.07
£17.50
Sams Call
290
£0.18
£52.20
Sams Call
300
£0.30
£90.00
Sams Call
380
£0.06
£22.80
Sams Call
390
£0.04
£15.60
Sams Call
400
£0.20
£80.00
Sams Call
440
£0.04
£17.60
Sams Call
500
£0.24
£120.00
Sams Call
580
£0.04
£23.20
Sams Call
680
£0.15
£102.00
Sams Call
750
£0.24
£180.00
Sams Call
880
£0.18
£158.40
Sams Call
950
£0.17
£161.50
Sams Call
1,000
£0.09
£90.00
Proclivity
70
£0.93
£65.10
Proclivity
75
£0.11
£8.25
Proclivity
85
£0.05
£4.25
Proclivity
130
£2.10
£273.00

now wheres that switch!!!
example above..proclivity was 8 to lay going inside last 2f mebbe 1.5L down..i click to lay 130 for £16..above is my return.
Report ItsMeSwaddle February 2, 2023 1:58 PM GMT
^ Not appeasing Robbie Robot by tampering with less than 1% of the market imo.
Report dustybin February 2, 2023 2:05 PM GMT
Rico without going through all this yet again...
Did you not yourself say only yesterday you believe there to be 160 + drone players on your drone alone?


Very different to sat in a room on course with 5 others
Report sludge February 2, 2023 2:13 PM GMT
On course there were always several rooms given over to in running players . I never saw the example you give of 5 others in just 1 room.
Report dustybin February 2, 2023 2:19 PM GMT
But there were nowhere nere th numbers there are now level
Nor were there 2 hops ahead with how many on?

I just cant understand why its not considered a combination of more competition seeing things level or ahead of him and the market thin at the end of the race.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 2:20 PM GMT
pretty sure i recall Mr.Hunt mentioning himself and at least 5 other sweaty great mates in his exclusive box at newcastle tbh.

the one where you could bet the winner when it was getting unsaddled in the winners enclosure...

well just about at least.
Report SlippyBlue February 2, 2023 2:20 PM GMT
Adam Wedge stopped riding to get chinned for third on Dondiam.
Let the favourite into the placepot. Not happy with that at all but nowt will be said probably.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 2:23 PM GMT
dustybin...

Mr.Hunt just doesn't like not being at the front of the queue these days...

and he doesn't understand the concept that when he sees 8 in the pink box there is still at least 1.2 secs of trading to be done before his bet hits the market...

well it's like that for me at least.
Report dustybin February 2, 2023 2:26 PM GMT
The fact remains that however fast he is, that 100+ one hop down could cancel their bets faster than he can match them, like for like.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 2:51 PM GMT
Mr.Hunt...

why is it taking Betfair so long to re-open the market when it's a photo finish these days ?

never used to be like that...

just wondered what your view is on the change of strategy.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 4:08 PM GMT
why is it taking Betfair so long to re-open the market when it's a photo finish these days ?

indeed why? ive mentchunned this to a few the last week or sew.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:20 PM GMT
and did they offer a theory Mr.Hunt ?
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:22 PM GMT
the clear strategy now is...

wait till we see the slow mo on the line before re-opening the market...

why ?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 4:24 PM GMT
no idea hibs..im presuming its stop people like myself who can hopefully stop it on the line live and nick the value when it reopens..another avenue closed off it appears.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:32 PM GMT
can't see it being that Mr.Hunt...

i mean if you do that under your own initiative then that's up to you...

doesn't affect betfair in any way whatsoever you doing that.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:42 PM GMT
the earlier you open the market the more volatile it is...

the more volatile it is surely benefits Betfair ?

well that's my take on it at least...

yet Betfair goes the other way...

strange imv.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 4:51 PM GMT
doesn't affect betfair in any way whatsoever you doing that.

so,who do ewe think is laying me 1.5 when im prob 1st in?
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:55 PM GMT
oh god...

not this again.

so when the betting re-opens for a photo are you saying it's YOU versus Betfair ?

in other words NOBODY else is betting on the photo in the entire world ?

only YOU and Betfair ?
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:57 PM GMT
and there you go again Mr.Hunt...

'when i'm probably 1st in'...

you seem to think that you are always first in the queue...

this ain't in running years ago when liquidity was good and there were plenty of mugs laying your bets when you were miles in front of them...

those days are long gone Mr.Hunt.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 4:58 PM GMT
Mr.Hunt seems to think he is sat there in his Magpie boxer shorts playing a computer game with Betfair...

believe it or not there are other folk out there playing in running too...

it ain't just YOU Mr.Hunt.
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 2, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
Its the judges in the boxes and the pic suppliers first in line surely?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 5:23 PM GMT
which boxes would that be?
Report 11kv February 2, 2023 5:24 PM GMT
Wooden
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 5:25 PM GMT
Grin
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 2, 2023 5:35 PM GMT
the stewards box
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 2, 2023 5:35 PM GMT
or those in the trucks on course from pic providers..
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 5:36 PM GMT
stewards sitting betting in running amongst others arw they?
Report now wheres that switch!!! February 2, 2023 5:37 PM GMT
everyones gotta eat.. apparently a cost of living crisis...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 5:58 PM GMT
hibbs using candles..has 4 lit at wonce.
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 6:05 PM GMT
160 individual folk using ONE drone apparently (god knows how many drones there are coz i don't use them)...

yet Mr.Hunt believes it's HIM v Betfair and he is always first in the queue...

Fantasy Island...

all you ever dreamed of...
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 6:08 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUShvnknipE
Report HappyHibby February 2, 2023 6:11 PM GMT
i bet that's what you looked like in 1982 Mr.Hunt...

no wonder everyone in Wallsend knows who you are.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 2, 2023 9:16 PM GMT
the 160 is a hypothetical spurious figure..knee wun nahs actual number..never will..and yes hibs..when the betting opens before the slo mo its me v bf/pp.

fact.
Report HappyHibby February 3, 2023 11:46 AM GMT
delusions of grandeur

----------------------

a false impression of one's own importance.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 3, 2023 1:32 PM GMT
rico = tina turner
Report swiftynifty February 3, 2023 5:18 PM GMT
Is that a new Betfair advert on ATR?  Not any mention that they've even got an exchange, all about the sportsbook.
Report HappyHibby February 3, 2023 5:24 PM GMT
don't blame them for not spending any cash on a dead duck tbh swifty...

certainly horse racing wise.
Report swiftynifty February 3, 2023 6:16 PM GMT
But their advertising stinks, always has. It's amazing the amount of people I speak to, young and old and virtually all of them have never heard of betting exchanges. I guess we live in our own bubble.
Report HappyHibby February 3, 2023 6:19 PM GMT
and i bet they have thrown millions at advertising the exchange...

and still nobody knows about it...

probably reached the conclusion that throwing good money after bad at the exchange is pointless...

can't disagree tbh.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps February 3, 2023 6:22 PM GMT
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