Bruce millington racing post page 16 - shameful

wouldnt touch with bargepole but have had about 20 £1/£2 free bets and without doing anything to dramatic odds on chance to win ,more than 3 goals kane/brazil  to score 2 etc, ive got one up at about 6,s out of 20, FOOLS GOLD bets

Betbuilders are equivalent to casino games on fobt. Only a scumbag would promote a bet like that. I hope all betting/gaming ads on mobile and laptop are banned permanently in the long delayed Gambling White Paper. I also hope it includes a levy on bookies towards nhs for gambling addicts.

Also had several free bet builders -only one came up at about 3s.

If I was playing I'd only pick 2 (small odds combined) to earn a similar sum freebie on any sport otherwise they can sling their hook.

Betbuilders are dangerous. It can seriously damage one's health and financially. It's the crack-cocaine of football ie quick losses and addictive.

Celtic HNY hope all is well!
I am one of the idiots that pay £40 a month out of laziness.
I dont read the articles.

i no lads at work who put more money than i normally put on a chelt race on players taking their shirt of if they score,and they do it in running ,subs coming on  in jury time etc ,
to be fair they  had some early touches at ridiculous prices 500 plus before bookies got wise to it but its pure casino pot lucck betting,alah sandown yesterday

Can someone post the article. Saw the headline and thought wtf but be nice to read it in full

tia

No worries, talking absolute rubbish, easy to see who the paymasters are.

Betbuilders are a hit with football punters - they could be the same for racing
The King George VI Chase won by Bravesmangame could have had more appeal as a betting event by the introduction of betbuilders
The King George VI Chase won by Bravesmangame could have had more appeal as a betting event by the introduction of betbuilders
Alan Crowhurst
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UPDATED 5:57PM, JAN 6 2023

Bookmakers are always on the lookout for new markets to boost turnover, and while some fail to drum up much interest, others take off spectacularly.

An example of a hugely successful innovation is the betbuilder. These new bets have have been such a hit with football punters that one firm is reporting a dramatic swing back towards pre-match betting just when it seemed like in-play turnover would forever be the bigger deal.

If you have not dipped your toe into this new way of betting, which gives punters the freedom to combine almost limitless permutations on the same fixture, here's an example of a betbuilder I placed on this week's Arsenal v Newcastle match: Saka to score at any time, Xhaka to be booked, Newcastle to win or draw, fewer than five cards to be shown and under 37.5 throw-ins.

The odds on those five elements all being successful was 85-1, and betbuilder players can modify and edit their wagers as they go along, seeing how each change affects their odds.

It's a fun, small-stakes way of enhancing one's viewing pleasure, and the reason they are being referenced here, slap bang in the middle of the racing section, is that, given their popularity in football, there must be scope for an equivalent product for major races.

Take the recent King George at Kempton. It was a perfectly interesting betting event just using the standard markets, but it could have had even more appeal, particularly for those punters who love the equivalent wager on football, if betbuilder facilities had been available.

You could, for example, have chosen any combination of match bets, picked the winner, backed any number of horses to be placed anywhere from the first two to the first eight, and even thrown in the winning distance and whether the SP would be over or under a certain mark to boot.

I am aware of one major bookmaker that is looking at creating betbuilders for racing, but the logistical and technological challenges are understandably demanding due to the huge complexities caused by related contingencies.

However, if the layers can crack the task of generating effective betbuilders for big races, it could be a potential boost for the sport at a time when it needs to do all it can to hold and strengthen its position as an alluring betting medium.

sensible punters already have distance betting,matchg betting available but dont get involved because of jocks easing horse down trying to hoodwink handicapper etc, you,d have to be a mug or millington target customer to get involved in relying on jocks pushing out to land a winner
we,re currently happy if they avoid falling off

So an "alluring betting medium" is one that has a larger negative e.v. for the punter is it?

Thanks Brucie.

i have to agree with the OP . each leg of a bet builder will be between 8% and 20%.  The cumalative elements would probably return less than a hundred point for every one hundred and fifty staked on a four timer . Very difficult to get value on one , nevermind all four elements of the bet. Should only be used when free , otherwise avoid at all costs !

Alas Brucie has blocked me on Twitter (I had the temerity to criticise the Post, politely I might add).

Free speech eh Bruce?

lets be brutally honest , anyone having these bet builder footy bets are  going to  do their loot  year in and  year out  so they may as well  lose it on daft hideous bets like this as any other way.

brucie as usual already missed the boat on this one with bookies poor marketing,as others and i have said using their free bets has just showed how its almost impossible to get even a basic buildabet over the line,
or maybe brucie and bookies have realised their poor marketing and this is an advert to try and pull in a few strays in to a racing buildabet angle

just checked my only buildabet free bet winner was
argentina to beat croatia
more than 2,5 goals
messi to score anytime
all for a mighty 7 to 2

The fact that the clown was in charge of RP sums up what a mess this game is in

Another who will have blood on their hands when we look back at the demise of racing in 20 years time.

I remember an article by Alastair Down extolling the fun of gambling on FOBT's some years ago ( pre £2 max per spin ). Tbh, I can't see the point of spending £40ish a month on this totally pro-bookmaker rag!

Surely, most people use video's of previous races or use their own memory ! ?  Plenty of ways to view form for free imvho...

this is the reality of the uk betting now. Betbuilders :)

I remember that From Down as well h.d. Completely beyond the pale writing that piece, but 'they' have no shame at all, Millington being another case in point.

I’ve just put two players from Oxford vs Arsenal tonight to get booked (365).They’re both 10/3 so as a normal double a pound would pay £18.78. They’re giving 18/1 so there’s nothing wrong with that. I added a third which was also 10/3 which came to 70/1 (should be 80/1) so a big difference there.

There is a huge case for ‘related’ with these bet builders so five single prices could look extremely poor as an acca.

theres plenty wrong with it. namely the scruffy n dirty

Very popular for the recreational punter looking for a bit of interest for watching a live game, especially when one of the teams is well odds

Odds on

I did one with 2 legs the other day, the draw and over 5.5 corners. The odds were 3/1 and yet the odds on the draw alone was 16/5 wtf

and the thickos still place the bets.

"If you build it, they will come".

NEVER but NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the British populace - just look at the last two and a half years for concrete evidence.

RP members club is now 10 per monty if you phone them up. Threaten to cancel and they give you anothervthree months

Very good value as that covers the cost of the weekender alone

If true, I'd say he's a c*nt.

If true.

I've not read said piece.