That is true DD.

It is hard when you lose what you think might be a double figure 'certainty', but fingers crossed I have a few reasonable one's still left. I am not so far behind as I usually am at this stage. In addition to Marie's Rock the two biggest disappointments were losing The Nice Guy in what has turned out a very weak division, and less so L'Homme Presse.

Ante-post betting isn't what it used to be when you just picked out a small number of horses. I used to frequent Fat Jockey, but got fed up with it. Many on there seem to throw endless darts in the hope that one hits the board, and they can cash out the rest. That's book blancing akin to accountants, and it's never been my way of doing things.

Now a sea of blue on Oddschecker presumably, as a response to the above.

Looks like you've got your wish differentdrum. All the best with the wager hot race and the week ahead. I haven't bet many tbh Wednesday is the day that will make or break the week for me. Be lucky

Thanks, and you. Not that it mattered, but I couldn't have done more to argue the case.

There is a possibility of being wrong about everything (my last two weeks betting would show that), but I do think she is the best odds against bet of the meeting. I have had a second bet using the money returned on the Stayers. Would be very surprised if she didn't go off clear favourite.

At least this year I am going in losing half as much as I was last year which helps. Only three obvious negatives - The Nice Guy (given a good season what price would he have been for the staying novice?), Hermes Allen (any amount of sensible argument was never going to sway Nicholls) and Ballyburn (at least that was NRNB).

I love this week, but it can be very hard if you have nothing on the board come Friday. Wednesday is usually my favourite day, but it looks a bit threadbare this year. Hopefully, Gerri Colombe can go in, and I was quite sweet on Encanto Bruno until the rain has come.

Minella cocooner was my reverse but otherwise I’ve been picking my fights tbh. I prefer trixie bets but they take me weeks to find the right combinations at the right odds ante post. Minella indo cost me a nice win a few years ago in the rsa but I continue to love the bet its not easy and takes me time and energy.

Just In regards Marie’s rock and the odds you made her earlier in the thread. I’ve put her in at 3/1 and can’t make her shorter just because of how deep the race has ended up. I’m a little on the fence in this as I don’t mind maries rock, epatante, honeysuckle, envoi,  echoes or some of the rags. I can’t believe when you backed her, you thought it would end as deep as it has? I’d say you’ve been a tad unlucky tbh. I get the angle and wish you well as she is tough and has the ability but boy it’s ended a tough betting race. Arguably the best betting heat of all the grade 1’s at the meeting.

I’m waiting to fire the 6th barrel on the Wednesday as I’m getting the right odds on one just hope I don’t end up in a blood bath

Been thinking about Tuesday's race and there is one possible negative for Marie's Rock.

Looking at the runners she is the only guaranteed strong stayer at the trip. All the opposition will realise that, and unfortunately there are no Dashel Drasher's in this line up. In fact there is a distinct lack of pace. If any of those behind her in market get on the front end they will surely attempt to dictate a dawdle. The one hope on the pace front has to be Theatre Glory. A lack of pace would surely not help her cause, and although she has no realistic chance of winning, she could still have quite a big influence on the race. Hopefully, the Henderson team have discussed this scenario.

Shame she ran a bounce type race Marie’s differentdrum. Quite keen tbh. Anyway nothing worse than a horse to blob with all the build up, I’m sure you’ll have other bullets to fire.

I said I’d bet one today although it’s drifted. Anyway true to my word it’s Gaelic warrior I did put it in at 11/4 for this so now I’m hock deep as you can imagine as the price is just unbelievable. Anyway I’ve got the rope ready

Very well said strontium

It was obviously very disappointing, but I am sure many people lost a lot more than I did.

Stamina did contribute heavily to her defeat, but not because she didn't get home, quite the opposite. I think I was the only one that I heard questioning the lack of pace (albeit at the eleventh hour), and sadly, that was the way it turned out. Alarm bells were ringing as soon as you could see Theatre Glory had zero inclination to go forward. The two speed horses on the front end just dawdled and ended up with a massive advantage. The only conceivable explanation for the Henderson tactics would be that they thought the slow pace would suit Epatante. It looks like she was always the chosen one with the attempts to shunt Marie's Rock into the Stayers. Henderson gave the lack of pace as the excuse for Marie's Rock's dismal run which was fair enough, but it is very hard to believe that he said the same thing for Epatante. She was the two miler upped in trip so it makes no sense.

It is hard to believe there will be a more falsely run race at the Festival, but the Henderson team have only got themselves to blame for doing zero about it.

Just got outstayed on the day by the Horse that
won the Stayers @ Cheltenham.
What races would it have won millions in?

Great ride, just got outstayed.

i think the filly on its day was better than honeysuckle lads

yes she is a nutter
but if you cant get her to settle you work on it
she got injured...why ? what was it ?

Yes, they will just waffle on about how well she ran today, and she did. Problem was, at this trip she couldn't quicken off the bridle, otherwise she would have won.

In this form, and with with a pace to run at, she would have dotted up at Cheltenham. Instead of acknowledging the mistake - I still believe they wanted that race set up for Epatante - they will probably plough on over the longer distance.