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formoftheace
23 Aug 22 11:21
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I doubt there is one who could prove the sole income comes from punting…100% of the so called couldn’t prove otherwise…fact! imv.

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By:
Gaze733
When: 23 Aug 22 11:27
I'll post here when the revenue from my subscribers exceeds €10k.
By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Aug 22 11:28
Ok.
By:
Gaze733
When: 23 Aug 22 11:29
Step 1: Don't be a mug, Step 2: Be shrewd, Step 3: Make easy money from people who don't follow the first 2 steps.
By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Aug 22 11:31
The guy Dodger was probably the only person who punted to pay the bills.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Aug 22 14:00
thios fred coming from a clown who cant poast a letter...

bellissimo 🧑‍🦯
By:
Brian
When: 23 Aug 22 14:17
those that are pro-punting are too shrewd not to another income source - fact!
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Aug 22 14:25
f4rtfromtheface is full of wind & pi$$.
By:
impossible123
When: 23 Aug 22 19:52
I'd agree with OP that pro-punting is a myth. I firmly believe any astute and savvy punter would have had their account restricted or closed in no time by online/high street bookies similarly racecourse bookies too once one's face is known. And, with AC private info of any punter will be used to facilitate these two sharp practices of bookies sooner rather later. 

Also, the liquidity of The Exchange esp antepost of prestigious races is a no-go either; private info could be used to stifle liquidity further and so will the increased risk of no-show esp from stables with multiple entries. As such, I believe the alternative unregulated market will thrive at the expense and cost of the horseracing industry.

A revamp and/or radical approach to funding is long overdue, and hopefully assisted by an industry savvy and visionary "professional" guardian ie BHA.
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 23 Aug 22 20:08
"I'd agree with OP that pro-punting is a myth. I firmly believe any astute and savvy punter would have had their account restricted or closed in no time by online/high street bookies similarly racecourse bookies too once one's face is known. And, with AC private info of any punter will be used to facilitate these two sharp practices of bookies sooner rather later."

I imagine any "savvy punter" would do all his betting on the exchanges. How many Betfair customers have had their accounts restricted excluding Sportsbook?
By:
starship
When: 23 Aug 22 20:33
the opening poster should have said

I DO NOT KNOW ANYONE WHO MAKES IT PAYS FROM BETTTING .....FACT

i know at least four people who make it pay betting greyhounds.....FACT
By:
leif
When: 23 Aug 22 20:40
Gazer

I'll post here when the revenue from my subscribers exceeds €10k.

Harold -any money in yet?

By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Aug 22 21:11
FELTFAIR 23 Aug 22 20:08 
"I'd agree with OP that pro-punting is a myth. I firmly believe any astute and savvy punter would have had their account restricted or closed in no time by online/high street bookies similarly racecourse bookies too once one's face is known. And, with AC private info of any punter will be used to facilitate these two sharp practices of bookies sooner rather later."

I imagine any "savvy punter" would do all his betting on the exchanges. How many Betfair customers have had their accounts restricted excluding Sportsbook?

assuming they are successful are these astute punters gona take 20%/40% under the odds?
By:
jackboo
When: 23 Aug 22 21:58
put the houses up , or put this post down
By:
Manoleeds
When: 24 Aug 22 09:36
Let's suppose someone is a successful punter -what happens when they want to give the game up? Unless they've been making class 3 voluntary Nics contributions they won't have the 35 years of contributions to get the full state pension at 66 (or later) and if they have made alternative pension contributions may not have benefitted from tax relief to boost contributions. [A non taxpayer can get some boost but it isn't much.] So maybe they've got buy to lets or a high yielding share portfolio. Can't be easy.
By:
Busvaldo
When: 24 Aug 22 09:44
It's an easy game if you know whats going to win...Wink
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 09:45
Tv appearance
Advertising
Books
Tipping lines
Property etc etc etc

I was punting on course 1991 - 1998 no other income,membership of every course in Scotland and travelled to most Northern down south.

All paid by betting income no exchanges.

The so called pro nowadays is a myth 100%.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 10:05
The Dalgleish runner in the 14.20….keep an eye on this……
By:
G Hall
When: 24 Aug 22 10:54
I would imagine the expenses were high, that's why an alternative income is useful to offset the expenses.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 11:28
Yes petrol,B&b/Hotel and food,one week away usually Monday- Saturday £300 - £400 +

Scotland without digs £150
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 11:30
Alternative income is not pressure of sole punting to survive.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 11:37
I sat having coffee at Musselburgh when a certain ‘pro’ was signing and selling his books to punters,another income, I’m certain he lost punting that day….
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 11:39
All the racing channels since day one used them and plugged them ‘the faces’ load of bull.
By:
Hibore
When: 24 Aug 22 11:49
All “pro punters†I’ve ever known are either on the dole or too lazy to work. All of them asked to borrow money frequently.
It’s just a way to justify their existence.

My racing group has some of the bigger punters who bet huge amounts. They are have successful business. When we used to go hospitality with Betfair and Paddy there were NO Pro punters I ever met.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 11:54
They love the handle…….pro
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 11:55
I mixed with no person,own thing,no bawling,no look at this….I’ve heard this and that..all P….
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 Aug 22 13:12
and your financial position currently is?

all insubstantiated hearsay of course.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 13:18
Oh wait until I check my bank and I’ll inform you……..ff’s
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 Aug 22 14:15
A,0-£10,000
B,£10,000-£100,000
C,£100,000-£250,000
D,more
E,potless

im going for E.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 14:22
Good grief
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 24 Aug 22 14:32
If u made it pay pre exchange  u are making so much more last 20 year
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 14:38
Different outlook then only concentrated on the one meeting no lay and place play head all over the place, changed day’s now.

65 shortly just piddling now
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 Aug 22 14:40
have you tried those incontinence y fronts?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 Aug 22 14:43
ive been around gamblers for a long long time...degenerates,some half clued up,some tricky,,dont know any that gotten wealthy.

also been around dozens and dozens of in running punters last 12yr on track..seen loads come from non racing backgrounds and win a lot a of money becos of the time advantage during the glory days..90% of them are now no longer in the game and struggling.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Aug 22 14:43
Me! No danger can still cover and satisfy the best…no drips here,,balup intact no sign of leakage.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 Aug 22 14:43
ive been around gamblers for a long long time...degenerates,some half clued up,some tricky,,dont know any that gotten wealthy betting pre race.

also been around dozens and dozens of in running punters last 12yr on track..seen loads come from non racing backgrounds and win a lot a of money becos of the time advantage during the glory days..90% of them are now no longer in the game and struggling.
By:
Hibore
When: 24 Aug 22 15:45
There was a group around the late 80’s early 90’s that made a good deal of money every week from placepots around Epsom. Backing outside the pool at Lads and Wh but backing multiple horses for 1p or 1/2p (understaking on purpose) x thousands of bets. If you had a 5 horse race they put fav in 6 times, second fav 4 times, third fav 3 times and rags one time. Virtually every horse would covered whatever the result of the meeting. If they laid out £400 the equivalent tote bet was £4k or 8k. They were the closest to pro punters I knew as they made big money until the bookies closed the loophole by going tote.

Bit like the hole in one golf bettors I suppose.
By:
stu
When: 24 Aug 22 15:46
In the modern day climate, I can't imagine why anyone would want to be a 'pro-punter'.

Dreadful lifestyle to lead IMO. Much rather have a solid financial basis (whatever that might be), and use punting as a more pleasant way to create a sideline and additional income stream.
Don't need the stress of having to make money gambling in my life.
By:
Hibore
When: 24 Aug 22 15:48
But they all worked day or night jobs as well.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 24 Aug 22 15:54
the pressure would be too much of having to win to pay bills expenses etc , better to have a few side hustles to bring in extra steady income.
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