Bookmakers don't want to kill the exchange. It's the best tissue they've ever had.

I think we've established that what rico says is correct. For the moment the trigger for affordability checks is making multiple deposits (it'll be a week tomorrow since I deposited that £4,000, and I still haven't heard anything; but that was my first deposit for years - if you're going to deposit, do it once and do it big).

Racing is easier money than tennis??    That's a new one on me.

All im saying even small multiple deposits could trugger the checks

Ive had it in 365 where betting £3 a pop all evening has been met with a are you in control of your gambling rubbish messages

So they even hit small stakers ffs

ooh, I like that idea Move

ItsMeSwaddle 20 Jul 22 17:23 
I have found the liquidity/botting/x matcher on here absolutely pathetic/brutal over the past 6 month.

dusty sez walofs.

Actually, that is quite a clever tack, and might be a way of trying to force the gambling companies to relent on affordability checks. By forcing us to undergo these checks now, the firms are effectively admitting that they previously haven't done enough to protect us from and advise us of the risks...

@HonkyJoe20
"Racing is easier money than tennis??    That's a new one on me."

Easier for BF to make money on by offering Exchange markets I meant.

Relative few races per day compared with the number of Tennis matches, and lots of that Tennis trading no more than a few thousand pounds on the main markets.

AS this issue isn't law,and no white paper yet,why haven't firms challenged the Gambling Commission,and warned them that they can't be fined over something that isn't a rule of law,then hopefully they won't be encroaching on punter's privacy by asking too many personal questions.Companies have gone about this issue in a stupid way,and it isn't clever upsetting normal punters.
  They should be doing their homework and find out how the 0.2% of pun ters with a problem gamble,and on what.

I think they went heavy handed hoping to show the gov etc that they were on this and therefore extreme measures would not be implemented. Gone on for a bit and they can't stop now. May well just have bit off the hand that feeds em by the time they're done.

the bigger problem is when Europe introduce their new tax on financial transactions outside EUROPE,THE UK will get caught when Brexit is sorted.And paddy/betfair will be collecting it for europe from the uk gamblers.it will finish gambling once and for all.

And to top it all off we have laws in place that protects us against such acts of legislation

You literally couldnt make it up ffs

If I was to craft an algorithm, it would probably look at deposit pattern/frequency as the number one variable. Common sense would agree if common sense was an algorithm
Although, a change in the level of deposit (on a losing account) would also be right up there. Anyway, algorithms are for maths classes. Whilst I fundamentally would like to see a reduction in problem gambling and wrecked lives, the world has going mad in terms of taking away individual responsibility

A question I have for someone with technical expertise. Can algorithms be worked around? if we know what's coded into them? Like six six mentioned in my previous post..I know algorithms on Google are always changing. For example, adverts etc

Is this the way it's going with these affordability checks!  Big players are going

Rewind to the beginning of the exchanges and consider what the traditional books thought of them? Now consider who owns Betfair.

They have seen a route to finish off the exchange and are pursuing it. If the white paper proves to be more lenient, Paddy's will carry on their relentless pursuit of exchange customers and the more severe way they are currently and proclaim that they don't think the white paper went far enough and they are simply being more responsible. No-one will know just how many slots players are being targeted along with exchange players as there doesn't seem to be an obligation for them to reveal such information. IMO

P Power and L ads bought Betfair and the Purple to nurturethem, not to kill them. Never before have bookmakers had such accurate prices available to them. And the best thing of all is that we actually pay THEM to provide their tissue, via commission.

Why else do you think that every bookmaker's prices fall into line behind the prices on here? Why else would they be so desperate to get rid of arbers unless they knew that the prices on here are more accurate than theirs?

Perhaps they're desperately trying to show they can self-regulate before the report comes out. That's the most logical explanation at this moment in time

If they were making small moves in the direction of the rumoured regulation, and a few token people here and there got caught - and particularly if those people were relatively green and were clearly trying to go through a lot of money - then that would make sense. But they seem to be going much further than that.

Several of the posters here have been caught up in the new regs, and I know the same is true on other gambling forums. And the sort of people being targeted are active punters, people who have been regularly chucking in a few thousand here and there for years. There's no need to take out those types, and once you do, it won't be long until you're reduced to a few newbies taking on a few bots.

If what has been rumoured to be in the White Paper becomes law, then those sorts of limits will result in the destruction of regulated betting in this country. Presently there's a strong hope that the laws that are eventually passed - unlikely to be before late Spring/Summer of next year - will be very much watered down from what's being proposed. However, what does that matter if, in the meantime, the firms and the GC have chosen to impose regulations almost as destructive towards the betting community as the rumoured White Paper?

All very strange.

Why jump now instead of wait to be pushed?