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Watching it back Crowley was quite happy to put Havlin over the rails i would ban the **** for 6 months.
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If he gets away with that there aint no justice.
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Agree with you..
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When is dangerous riding, dangerous riding to the stewards:
53.1 A Rider is guilty of dangerous riding if he causes serious interference by 53.1.1 purposely interfering with another horse or Rider, or 53.1.2 riding in a way that is far below that of a competent and careful Rider and where it would be obvious to such a competent and careful Rider that riding in that way was likely to endanger the safety of a horse or Rider. |
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no ban i would say
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crowley werent so ruthless when he got a proper clump a few years back by that young apprentice (cant remember his name ) the kid got a few months if i recall
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Some young Brazilian if my memory is good michael.
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Raoul Da Silva
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thats the fella wrought , crowley was bleating after he got chinned that he had a lump of metal in his hand lol
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The irony of that case is that Crowley was having a go about dangerous riding from Da Silva. Pot kettle.
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An enquiry was held to consider interference approximately 2 furlongs out involving ESHAADA, placed
third, ridden by Jim Crowley, the winner, FREE WIND (IRE), ridden by Robert Havlin and KAWIDA, unplaced, ridden by Neil Callan. Havlin was suspended for 5 days for careless riding as he persisted and committed for his run into an insufficient gap which was only briefly viable between the running rail and ESHAADA, causing considerable interference to ESHAADA and KAWIDA, and resulting in FREE WIND (IRE) turning ESHAADA's hind quarters, which in turn caused both fillies to become severely unbalanced. |
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Like i said no ban for jim
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that decision beggers utter belief.
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completely ridiculous!!
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Shocking decision but why am i not surprised....Run by a bunch of dimwits.
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the hd on i seen there was a 5-6ft gap between crowley and the rail wen havlin made his move..abso begs belief what the stewards have said.
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They obviously saw something we didn't.
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Your spot on rico buddy.
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wasn't it Crowely who gave evidence in support of Freddie Tylicki,which the latter later won?
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you're
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Yes i think you are right spock.
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as per..ty.
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Havelin should appeal
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Bit unlucky Havlin,missing 5 days.With the Dettori
situation not the time to be unavailable. |
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Are the BHA/Stewards mindful of calling anything dangerous and the media ramifications that looked pretty dangerous to me irrespective whose fault it was.
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The worst decision I've seen in many a year. Crowley should have been done for dangerous riding and they have banned the victim. Unbelievable. (I had no bet in the race but I did take the trouble to watch the head-on which I can only presume the bar stewards did not).
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Crowley looked over and saw Havlin, but the point was that at that point havlin wasn't in the gap, he was just eyeing it up, Crowley's horse then edged over and closed the gap but Havlin then thought, fook it I'll go for it anyway.
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Crowley was setting him up , leaving the door open until Halvin decided to come through ! Then slammed it shut on him !
Nasty piece of riding by Crowley , it`s along time since i have seen such a deliberate act of cheating ! |
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Crawley is not that good a jockey to set up anything.
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"Cheating"? What are you on about? I think the stewards have got it right - Havlin shouldn't have gone anywhere near the gap which was always likely to close. Piggott got six months for trying that on Gordon Richards so 5 days says just how lucky Havlin has been today.
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Exactly what I fought loyal
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Havlin took too long to commit, at the start when the gap was there he should have ridden harder and actually got into the gap, he took too long and then panicked when it was too late.
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Piggott got six months for trying that on Gordon Richards so 5 days says just how lucky Havlin has been today.
Richards said afterwards that if the positions in running were reversed would he have let me up the inside? |
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Havlin got horse beat. Horse got him out of a big hole.
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I rarely contribute to controversial issues such as this, so forgive me for doing so now. Havlin's ride is exactly the sort of ride that should be visited with a ban in weeks, not days. He knew he would win by sufficient if he persisted with his course but bet he would win by far enough to allow the stewards no room for DQing him. It was deliberate, not careless, and he nearly brought the Varian horse down. I completely confess to having had a large bet on the RV horse, who, imho, without Havlin, would have won. It is PRECISELY the sort of ride that our rules presently allow, but should not. I am sanguine about things as, no doubt, they "Even out" as they say. Never mind being beaten but....Havlin deliberately hampered the RV horse in order to win. And did so. Job done.
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donegal i totally disagree with you , at best the varian horse would have finished 2nd , the winner lost more ground then the varian horse through the interference , yet got going again and won in the end very easily imho, the choice of going up the inner by havlin and crowley seeing this and edging over stopped the winners run and had to be switched ,he then picked up impressively and won going away , tbh both crowley and havlin it wasnt their finest hour , and i wasnt financially involved in the race
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pity i coudlnt watch the hd on again cos people here have made me question my sanity.
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just rewatched on rtv..i know the hd on angle can show in a different light but to me there was a clear gap between crowleys mount and the rail which havlin went for..he is only a 1/2L/nck behind when crowley edges toward rails...ban will be overturned 1.01.
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Regardless of what happened the winner was clearly the
best horse in the race.No way Eshaada would've won that. |
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indeed.
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