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13 Jun 22 12:46
Date Joined: 23 Jun 07
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What an amazing card. Baaeed and Coroebus look like shoe ins but I’m going for Royal Scotsman in the Coventry at 10/1 each way. I was blown away by the Goodwood run and if he can act on this faster ground he will take some beating. Price starting to go as well.

Any other fancies before their odds collapse ?
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Report jimnast June 13, 2022 12:58 PM BST
I can remember the trainer having 3 two year old winners at royal ascot one year I think the earlier 90s dilum,magic ring and fair cop .
Report Hibore June 13, 2022 1:09 PM BST
I’d forgot about Dilum, he looked a superstar that day. Cole knows time of day so fingers crossed.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 13, 2022 1:32 PM BST
I'm with you OP. Wanted to take the front 2 on in the Coventry. Nothing against them as racehorses, just a price thing. Got it down to a Royal Scotsman v Age of Kings v Bradsell shoot out. Liked the way RS went about his job at Goodwood, travelled very enthusiastically and ran right to the line like a horse who looks very genuine. The 4th that day came out and bolted up so it was pleasing to see the form get an early boost. Got some of the 12s and had a couple of small savers on the other 2.
Report impossible123 June 13, 2022 3:03 PM BST
I think unless the ground (unlikely to me) is a factor for Coroebus 4/5 is a stonking price against these lot; a 1/3 chance is available at 4/5; double with Baaeed (1/5) it's 5/4 post a price boost.
Report sageform June 13, 2022 3:20 PM BST
Also on Royal Scotsman and a speculative one on Berkshire Shadow at 42 hoping to lay it off around 20 in running.
Report EastLower Gooner June 13, 2022 3:24 PM BST
I’m looking at Man of Promise in the King Stand.

Going to be an absolute tear up. Can’t have Nature Strip. Well I’ll be honest…I’ve never warmed to him in Australia so can’t really back him now. Golden Pal bombed out the last time in England…although he has improved and Irad is coming into this on big high. Has he ever won in England? Maybe about time.

But MoP isn’t short of speed and maybe if he’s been freshened up since Dubai he can hang with them and overhaul them with 6f stamina late on.

Haven’t done any bets as yet…I like the Japanese horse in the POW the most this week. Gold Cup looks a lovely betting race. I can work something there definitely.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 13, 2022 3:38 PM BST
What about this being his first race away from Newmarket, 123? Do you have concerns about this?
Report impossible123 June 13, 2022 3:53 PM BST
Yes, I do. But, 4/5 when he ought to be 1/3? Maybe betting in-running is the way to go with him.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 13, 2022 3:54 PM BST
I've played Might Ulysses who I think still has more improvement to come & Lusail. Everything that could go wrong in 2000gns went wrong for him. Fell out of the stalls, then he couldn't find a gap when he needed it and then he got bumped when making his run. This is what Timeform had to say Dual Group 2 winner over 6f at 2 yrs, including the Gimcrack at York. Returned with a good second (Angel Bleu third) in Greenham but his limitations were seemingly exposed when 5¼ lengths sixth of 15 to Coroebus in 2000 Guineas since. Confused This is why you should always do your own work on a race.

Also played Coroebus/Mighty U & Coroebus/Lusail F/Cs in case Coroebus is just as good away from his "home" track.

Agree with you ELG. I want to take the 2 overseas raiders on in the King's Stand too.....I'm still trying to find something though!
Report impossible123 June 13, 2022 4:00 PM BST
Coroebus: My only concern is Doyle not on him. I think Doyle barely moved as Coroebus cruised up to the 2f marker.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 13, 2022 4:09 PM BST
Coroebus is the best horse in the race for sure. But, not having a race anywhere else is slightly off putting. Maybe he doesn't travel well? It might be idea to hold fire until you see him going down to post?
Report Tiger Tiger June 13, 2022 5:19 PM BST
Fluffed his lines at York last year but Golden Pal has been amazing ever since, seems to be getting stronger and stronger and after watching his races several times I just cant see anything getting past him in the King Stands, like many of his stables horses he's like a bullet out of the stalls. Prepared to be wrong of course, backed at 4.7 and will hope to lay off below evens in running. Good luck whatever you're on.
Report FOYLESWAR June 13, 2022 5:32 PM BST
dont look any point backing baeed at the prices but  the without fav market is  interesting and possible value lurking there .
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 13, 2022 5:45 PM BST
Surprised Lights On isn't going for the DOC. Would have been one of my best bets of the meeting if she'd went for that one. This isn't a vintage QA so maybe she can chase home the "good thing" of the meeting.
Report paulo47 June 13, 2022 5:54 PM BST
Am with Sage and Hibore , up the golden 1 lane highway ......
Report sageform June 13, 2022 6:32 PM BST
Don't forget that Coroebus has not raced round a bend yet. He might get stuck in traffic as so many do on the round mile.
Report barstool June 13, 2022 6:33 PM BST
It is not a best bet but Arecibo 50/1 4 places Kings Stand is worth a  little dabble.
Report impossible123 June 13, 2022 6:54 PM BST
Is it not Moore who's a habit of getting stuck behind traffic or the rail until it was way to late? He's on a few shorties eg Kyprios. By the way why is this fav? I do understand Strad is a pensioner and Trueshan an unlikely runner, but Kyprios has only beaten donkeys in Ireland. Maybe the lack of quality esp if Trueshan is an absentee.
Report Cork Langer June 13, 2022 11:47 PM BST
John Queally rarely ventures too far afield unless he feels his charge can do itself justice, the bonus of having Davies take off 5lb makes Arcadian Sunrise in the Ascot Stakes a play for me, gl all
Report Storm Alert June 14, 2022 9:06 AM BST
It is is possible to get Royal Scotsman 11/1 with the boost on Sportsbook (e/w terms shocking thou) atm. As it's the £10 free bet race if not in first three. Race is a lottery, not sure if no.1 draw and fast ground will suit and overall form figures is a fair bit below the first four in the betting, so will need to improve again. GL , £10 is all I would want to risk in the race.
Report johnnyrant June 14, 2022 9:42 AM BST
Royal Scotsman ew backer signing in, just slightly worried about 1 draw. Also interesting Stoute running Lights On in opener rather than tomorrow's DoC. Think it's partly due to ground. She wants some dig & she'll get best of ground in today's opener. She's the bet for me w/o Baeed e/w. Also keen on Stoute's Regal Reality - knows how to lay 1 out for this type of race, ideal low draw & he loves fast ground.
Report Cauthenmeister June 14, 2022 10:11 AM BST
Feels like a day to dabble on some big prices. I have settled on Scholarship, Equilateral, Wexford Native and New Mandate. I do also agree with Gooner that Man of Promise could be interesting and think Pied Piper may be the best play at shorter odds. I'll leave the odds on shots to the professionals.
Report SHROPSHIRELAD June 14, 2022 10:25 AM BST
3.05 ROUSING ENCORE - he’s won on firm ground, he’s won giving weight away, an each way bet

3.40 GOLDEN PAL - brilliant speed, he also won’t mind the firm going

4.20 COROEBUS - if he’s 10/11 or better he’s worth backing




Just for good measure

12.36 Perry Barr - TRAP 4

All the best
Report sparrow June 14, 2022 11:01 AM BST
impossible123 13 Jun 22 15:03 
I think unless the ground (unlikely to me) is a factor for Coroebus 4/5 is a stonking price against these lot; a 1/3 chance is available at 4/5; double with Baaeed (1/5) it's 5/4 post a price boost.

Plenty laid between 1.8 and 1.89 already on here for this 1/3 shot.
Report Manoleeds June 14, 2022 11:09 AM BST
Matt Chapman reckons could get trapped on rail -fair comment or not?
Report FatPunt June 14, 2022 11:11 AM BST
Day 1 Lucky 15:-

15:05 Blackbeard.
15:40 Twilight Calls.
17:00 Bring On The Night.
18:10 Juan De Montalban.
Report Storm Alert June 14, 2022 11:17 AM BST
Where is Coroebus 4/5 to put in a double? I haven't seen that price all day. He is just about that on the exchange taking into account commission.

Baaeed 1/5, where?
Report impossible123 June 14, 2022 1:06 PM BST
billie was 1/5 (Baaeed) and 4/5 (Coroebus) boosted to 1.24 double; Tote is offering 5/4 Coroebus (noe evens).
Report EastLower Gooner June 14, 2022 2:38 PM BST
Just a couple of small each way bets for me. nothing major.
Man of Promise ew 4 places 15/1 in the Kings Stand...i guess i had too right lol.

and a very thin call on Aristia ew 4 places 20/1 in the Wolferton.

you got to really scroll down the paper to get to her but she busted up Alpine Star last year and had a nice enough warm up at York this year.

Juan Elcano is probably one of the better eachway bets this year but I'll take a chance with her. She's always hinted she might be capable of a bit more.

Not really that hopeful but I thought I could throw a few pounds her way.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 3:10 PM BST
Give Archie some more horses. Outstanding trainer.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 3:13 PM BST
0.5pt on Bradsell but also had it with the 3rd in a RF/C Plain
Report sageform June 14, 2022 3:14 PM BST
Brave run by Royal Scotsman but had every chance.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 3:15 PM BST
Looked the winner 2 out. Winner very useful indeed.
Report sageform June 14, 2022 3:17 PM BST
I am also on Juan Elcano (5.35) who is a 5yo gelding by Frankel and won this last year on similar ground.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 3:21 PM BST
Backed that one too, Sage. Ran a nice race LTO to tee it up for today. Pretty sure it will be ridden more patiently.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 4:28 PM BST
Best on the forum! Cool
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 4:30 PM BST
SF of almost 40/1 Cool
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 4:32 PM BST
but his limitations were seemingly exposed when 5¼ lengths sixth of 15 to Coroebus in 2000 Guineas since.

Yeah, right! Grin
Report sageform June 14, 2022 4:39 PM BST
First 8 covered by under 3 lengths. 3 or four of them might have won if they had the same pitch as the winner at half way-including my choice Berkshire Shadow who covered more ground than any of them.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 4:42 PM BST
Dobbs shouldn't have let Buick up the rail.
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 14, 2022 4:56 PM BST
Anyone got one they like in the next? Was looking to the jumps boys (Mullins & Skelton) but I'm far from confident in this one.
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