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Should have stayed home & played with his trains. Got the best horse beaten.
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St Leger winner imo
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ye, horse should get back on track next time, all stations to Doncaster
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I would think that almost everyone who didn't back the third will agree that the best horse on the day won on the day.
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Agreed. Also, imo, Hornby is a very moderate jockey and finds trouble far too often for it to be a co-incidence.
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Thank fook Bryony wasn't riding it.
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Clown.
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He's given a thoroughly acceptable synopsis, didn't have the pace when the gap came.
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Rob is a very below average jockey that gets rides , expected no more than we got today , never going to win . Lucky he had such a good horse for his Derby ride ! He wasn`t good! He knew that after his interview post race ! Won`t get many more Derby rides on the back of that !
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should stick to train sets
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sorry see the OP made that joke already
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I dont think hes a great Jockey, however I have to agree that the horse didnt appear good enough to quicken when asked.
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Its all hindsight....and as they say...hindsight is a wonderful thing. Hornby shud have followed the winner on the outside instead of taking the dangerous route. His own fault, simply no awareness of what was going on around him imo.
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Just unlucky imo.
If the horse goes for the Irish Derby, will he keep the ride? Dettori rode a Group 1 winner for Ralph last season, will he get the call? |
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Harsh, imo, if Hornby does lose the ride.
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if the winner gets beaten this season ill stop posting
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finnished like a steam engine
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GEORGE.B 04 Jun 22 23:44
Just unlucky imo. If the horse goes for the Irish Derby, will he keep the ride? Dettori rode a Group 1 winner for Ralph last season, will he get the call? No, they've gone for the top man in Ireland, CK. |
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It is a no-brainer to use a champion jockey in Ireland. The Curragh takes some knowing and riding. Nothing to do with Hornby's ride at Epsom.
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Would imagine it has got to do with the Epsom ride.
If he'd of won,do you think Keane would be getting the gig. I doubt it. |
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If Keane wins on the beast, then Rob ain't getting the ride back.
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What beats me is the suggestion that he was an unlucky loser, the winner is in a completely different class, the gap closed because the horse never had the acceleration to get to it first, at the same time the winner was putting the race to bed in a matter of strides.
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I think the gap was closing before he had any chance to get through it, and although there is little doubt the winner was travelling the best at that point and likely would have taken a few lengths out of him, the big question is what would have happened if Westover had been allowed to build his momentum unimpeded. The interference quite literally stopped him in his tracks with substantial loss of momentum.
But's here a thing I picked up on watching the race back in its entirety, and it's to do with the uphill run from the start, whereas the second and Westover were able to slot in on the inner quite quickly and have ground-saving trips, Desert Crown did a lot of running to get into his position and even then had a wider trip than ideal. So more kudos to the winner, imo. |
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Some horses have instant acceleration and some need a few secs to reach top speed.
Given a clear run on the outside there is no doubt in my mind that Westover would've given Des Crown a real race. He'd have had to give him a few lengths start but the turbo was kicking in after being impeded and momentum lost. Imo We see horses every day quicken clear and get caught, so to me that's what happened in the derby, nearly Saying Desert had plenty left is guess work imo. I though he went a bit early and was plateauing at the end. |
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Sorry George, your post wasn't there when I was typing.
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Westover was unlucky...not to be 2nd. However, he'd not have won the Epsom Derby; Desert Crown was cantering to the 2f marker.
I think Westover lacked tactical speed when it mattered ie when the pace quickened. But, he'd not have beaten S=desert Crown. |
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Right decision Hornby would not have a clue how to ride the Curragh...I mean i think Hornby is a very good Jockey but like Horses for courses Jockeys for courses is every bit as important.
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Isn't Hornby on strike Saturday anyhow
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A very good jockey is a phrase i never thought i'd see when talking about Rob Hornby Acey Duecy.....
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I thought Hoo Ya Mal and Westover had the perfect positions 3 and 4 back coming round Tattenham Corner on the inside. So he got into trouble, but he had the dream passage before he got into trouble. Harder to win coming round the outside like Desert Crown imo.
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Westover may have won with a dream run like Hoo Ya Mal had, but he wouldn't have the best horse.
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wouldn't have been the best horse
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Grayhawk after further thought i would like to downgrade that to a good jockey.
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very aptly named ride in the 8.40
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Colin Keane was asked about the ride after he'd won the last at Sligo, said it was hard on Rob but it is what it is and it's a great spare to get, looking forward to it.
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Did he ride any winners at Ascot?
No. He got one horse placed out of eight rides. Says everything anybody needs to know about the guy. A modestly skilled jockey by any measure used. |
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Backing unlucky losers is the way to the poor house. The bookies will be looking to get westover I wouldn't blame the jockey.
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