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The Knight; I.M.O yes.
Lester had the problem of Oh So Sharp with a superior turn of foot sat in behind. Most jocks would have blasted out with a really strong pace, but Lester set a steady pace and just kept winding it up when he hit the home straight all the way to the line . Jimnast : Only ever been to 1 boxing event in my life . Was staying @ Spa Hotel on edge of Manchester for a weekend break with family ,which coincided with Tommy Hearns fighting(Cruiserweight i think) on undercard of a Nassem Ahmed championship bout. Had watched on TV all his great battles with Hagler/Leonard/Duran. An oppourtunity not to be missed. He was the star of the show to me not Nasseem. |
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Good morning Geoff
I very much doubt anyone around during the era of hearns,hagler,leonard and Duran would not agree it was by a million miles the greatest time to be watching boxing ,the use to show the fights at the Apollo in Manchester during the night they were always a sellout and the pubs and restaurants were buzzing prior to the doors opening,we all had our favourite but even so everyone would have total respect for the other 3. |
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Morning jimnast and Geoff M,
Goeff M: Good point about the Benson & Hedges in 1985. What detracts just a little for me is that Oh So Sharp's turn of foot meant she had to be produced at exactly the right moment - the reason she lost the Diamond Stakes at Ascot the race before. Hit the front a touch too early - no fault of Cauthen's - and was run down near the line. But I do take your point about how Piggot had to be doubly aware of her lurking behind at York. Thinking about it, Piggot ride the horse the same way in the 1984 Leger! Jimnast: Your point about boxing is spot on. Back in 1985 my dad, now long gone, went to the Oaks to see the brilliant Oh So Sharp destroy her field and then on to Loftus Rd to see Barry M win the world title with a mid-fight unleashing of explosive power. The crowd that night went beserk and the atmosphere was incredible. Still remains the most exciting sporting day of my life. Trouble is, the younger brigade think we are being old codgers when we recall stuff but we know we really did see the best of so many, many things during the 1970's and 1980's! |
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jimnast/knight
what a great era that was, used to go to the Odeon at Newcastle or Leeds to watch the fights as they weren't shown in Darlo thinking back I had great nights in both cities, i remember singing along to the umpah band in the beer Keller's sad to say those days are long gone. |
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I should have said that I was with my dad at Epsom and then Loftus Rd back in 1985!!!
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Smokin Joe aka 'The Slaughterhouse Kid'
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Ronnie
I watched the Duran hagler fight at the odeon Leeds. The Knight I remember that night at loftus road we watched the fight in a night club even though the fight took place around 9 pm which of course is early for a night club but they had what at the time was considered a big screen ,it was in fact just the size of a normal tele nowadays,but what an atmosphere in the club as well as at loftus road,he defeated a great champion that night. |
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Sorry gravy 12 I misread your post I didn’t realise it was a question,I have to be honest I wouldn’t have known.
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jimnast
I watched the Hagler vs John "the beast" Mugabi in Leicester Square Odeon and it was jam packed, Mugabi was unbeaten and Hagler had been defending his title for 9 years and it was war from the first bell, they knocked seven bells out of each other every round until Hagler eventually finished it in the 11th round, the atmosphere was electric ! the full fight is on YouTube but here is the highlights if anyone's interested  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxuDdkFG-LM |
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I remember the fight tyred although only saw it on regular tv after the event ,they were great nights I suppose those occasions ended when sky tv came in, they were good times as you say the atmosphere would always be electric.
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Great fights indeed from a golden era but watching the 3 part Muhammed Ali documentary was very sad viewing in the end, so many great boxers never the same after those epic battles.
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being pounded on the head for a couple of decades does have its drawbacks !
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The 70s were easily the greatest era for the heavyweight division.
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Oh so Sharp won the 1,000 Guineas in a 3 way photo,she needed every yard to win.She won the Oaks by 6 lengths.Although Commanche Run had won the St Leger he was thought to be better at 10 furlongs.I heard at the time that Lester and Luca watched her classics a few times and decided that the best wat to get her beat was to make as near a mile race as possible,the more it was made a stamina test the more it would suit the filly.How would you have priced the race if you had known that?
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No doubt about that sparrow,however I have enjoyed the Tyson fury era.
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Is my memory serving me correctly? Did Steve Cauthen ride a classic winner then fly up to Pontefract to ride a winner at an evening meeting? Seem to remember seeing him there one night....
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jimnast 02 May 22 13:20
No doubt about that sparrow,however I have enjoyed the Tyson fury era. Can't say I rated any of them after Lennox Lewis, jimnast. |
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Back to Steve Cauthen I remember back in the late 80s he was due to ride a Henry Cecil trained favourite in the ascot gold cup however the heavens opened overnight and news was getting out he would switch to the stables 2 nd string paean,around a 16/1 chance this was before the bookmakers had the technology they have now and punters had the chance to occasionally beat them,paean was sent off around 5/1 and destroyed the field .
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I had a friend who hated Cauthen for a brief period in the early 90s
he'd been backing Marling for the 1000 guineas ever since her Cheveley Park victory and had a clutch of ante post bets that would've netted him thousands had Marling/Cauthen got up and won after meeting trouble and finishing fast for a head defeat ! of course, she went on to win her next 3 and be champion miler that season which didn't help |
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Couldn't agree more with 1830 post re Cauthen. And what seems to be most on here. Brilliant jockey in brilliant times.
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1830 the poster not the time
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I was fortunate enough to have several ante post bets on Mighty Fly to win the Lincoln in 1983.I was delighted when Mr Cauthen rode the perfect race to win easily.Superb Jockey.I did tell my local pub landlord to have a bit on,I never had as many drinks bought for me as I got that nigh,he must have told the entire pub.
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ringlets -
- or - are you actually - John ? If so - Great to see you posting on here - as you would have been 50 years old when Mighty Fly won the Lincoln. Were you 'On Duty' at Doncaster that day? Always wondered, too ... Are you - or, if not, Him - a descendant of the famous Racehorse Portrait Painter ? |
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onlooker.,
Sorry to say I am not John Stubbs,although I did meet him in a restaurant,in Newcastle one night after a Greyhound I was connected with had won an Open up there.He was great company as well as being a gent.Neither am I a descendant of the painter |
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Ringlets
loved Wormwoods articles. regards Ronnie. |
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I don;t know why people get so outraged by commentaries/tators. They don;t influence the outcome of a race and the mute button is always there.
Get the colours, switch the mute on and judge the race - for yourself. One of Goods's commentaries sticks out for ever for me. Wish he was still here. |
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I didn't mind Goode tbf. In fact he was very good early days, just not in the league of Peter O'Sullevan, but then who was in them days? Never forget OH SO SHARP WINS THE LEGGGGER!
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Look at what we got now, he don't look/sound too bad do he?
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Steve joining ITV for derby day!
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I fondly remember the newspaper headline
"Proceed with Cauthen" It was a clever use of words. |
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Good to hear he is part of the tv coverage ......shame about most of the other hapless box ticking 'experts' we will have to suffer.
There have been few better jockeys than the Kentucky Kid and even less who are good to listen to as well. I was fortunate enough to be stood near the winning line when he won the St Leger on fillies triple crown heroine Oh So Sharp ....a great era of flat racing. |
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What a wonderful memory that must be 626, Oh So Sharp is one of my favourite horses of all time.
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that 3 way photo would've caused mayhem on here, never looked like she'd won
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p.s. I know it wasn't the race 626 is talking about obviously
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1000 Guineas foxy
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On a Thursday back then
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The runner up that day has a gallop named after her in Newmarket.
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Al Bahathri and Bella Colora from memory !
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That’s correct foxy I sometimes think it was milligram who was 3rd for some reason
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