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bigbillbovington
10 Feb 22 18:13
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In multiples,according to Betfair research,pull the other one,, just be honest and say it is costing you
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Report Gaze733 February 10, 2022 6:18 PM GMT
Clown research. It's like they were saying "according to our resarch, people don't like to win extra money."
Report barstool February 10, 2022 6:19 PM GMT
Better off paying 2% commission on the exchange and bet your multi with someone who offers bog.
Report Storm Alert February 10, 2022 6:36 PM GMT
How are Betfair notifying this change to T&C? I haven't received an email and nothing on the web site.
Report swiftynifty February 10, 2022 6:40 PM GMT
if you look on oddschecker at the t an cs it looks like it's across the board, all customers.
Report mrcombustible February 10, 2022 6:42 PM GMT
email received today. effective tomorrow
Report number 7 February 10, 2022 7:45 PM GMT
This is rubbish, who are they trying to fool, I got little email telling me I will be better off, you are better off in the high street bookies then, Sportsbook is pointless then
Report GEORGE.B February 10, 2022 8:56 PM GMT
How it started

Double the odds one winner concession removed from Luckys

How it's going

B.O.G removed from multiple bets

What's Next?
Suspect it could be the double result concession on stewards enqs
Report GEORGE.B February 10, 2022 8:58 PM GMT
I stand to be corrected here, and I hope I'm not putting more ideas into their heads, but wasn't it the case that if you opted for the 2% commission you lost the sportsbook concessions anyway?
Report GEORGE.B February 10, 2022 9:00 PM GMT
Mission creep innit, they slowly take everything away from you - the boiling frog analogy

You will own nothing and be happy
Report GEORGE.B February 10, 2022 9:01 PM GMT
* You will own nothing and they'll be happy
Report saxon farm February 10, 2022 10:09 PM GMT
I concur with George.B
I sacrificed BOG for 2% on the exchange a few years ago.
Report barstool February 10, 2022 10:24 PM GMT
Most did saxon, so what is this costing them?

What do you get for the 5% reduction now?

It is either 2% or 8% with 10% of your losses back.

No brainer.

Take the 2% and do the multiples with Denise.
Report Dayjur by Danzig February 10, 2022 11:06 PM GMT
Yes, got the email this morning. Extensive customer research determined that customers would like less value! Pull the other one Betfair! Absolute disgrace. Where is the report of this research? I wasn't asked about it.
Report themightymac February 10, 2022 11:32 PM GMT
I know punters are thick but they are not that thick. Unless they all pressed the wrong button on the survey.

I get nowt anyway.
Report saxon farm February 10, 2022 11:35 PM GMT
barstool

That is precisely my methodology.
Report themightymac February 10, 2022 11:37 PM GMT
Denise that shuts accounts, so hard to bet with.
Report saxon farm February 10, 2022 11:47 PM GMT
themightymac

I acknowledge the above, but so far 3*5 have let me get on. I am a £5 to £100 merchant for recreation.

Several others won’t let me bet horses whatever. 

I am neither clever or shrewd.
Report onlooker February 11, 2022 1:09 AM GMT
saxon farm 10 Feb 22 22:09 

I concur with George.B

I sacrificed BOG for 2% on the exchange a few years ago.
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INCORRECT - and GEORGE B, too .... as - so did I, allot for 2%  ... But, I have still had the email -

- despite NEVER having had a bet on the Sportsbook


What you 'sacrificed' - When allotting for 2% Commission - was the right to PROMOTIONS - Such as the  'Cash Races' etc - and NOT  'Concessions' on Sportsbook.
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 11:09 AM GMT
So let me clarify with someone who DOES bet with Sportsbook. If you opted for the 2% commission on the exchange, you still get BOG on Sportsbook?
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 11:20 AM GMT
onlooker, telling people in block capitals that they're "INCORRECT" when they're not Blush

If you go to Account, my betfair rewards, it's tells you there if you're on the "Basic" plan, no BOG on sportsbook.
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 11:21 AM GMT
* it tells...
Report saxon farm February 11, 2022 12:17 PM GMT
Correct GEORGE.B

But I do enjoy enjoy onlooker’s  night time forthright ramblings!
Report onlooker February 11, 2022 12:55 PM GMT
GEORGE.B   - are you not Contradicting yourself with this post ?  ...


GEORGE.B 11 Feb 22 11:09 

So let me clarify with someone who DOES bet with Sportsbook. If you opted for the 2% commission on the exchange, you still get BOG on Sportsbook?
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How can they?

As you further post - "If you go to Account, my betfair rewards, it's tells you there if you're on the "Basic" plan, no BOG on sportsbook.


My Betfair Rewards

Chosen plan
BASIC
Change Plan
No Best Odds Guaranteed on Sportsbook
No Access to Promos
No Access to Prize Pinball
2% Commission
Report themightymac February 11, 2022 1:28 PM GMT
Onlooker is correct. If one opted in for 2% commission, then BOG on Sportsbook was withdrawn with immediate effect.
Report Storm Alert February 11, 2022 1:30 PM GMT
I didn't receive the email and can't find anything about this on the website. Not exactly notifying this change in plain sight is Betfair. I constructed a double multiple bet and sure enough the double bet does not have a BOG icon, where as the singles do. Admittedly I don't often do multiple bets on Betfair but not sure what I am getting for my 5% commission package nowadays.

ITV 3/1+ free bet is long gone?? Money back if horse goes odds-on in play and loses also long gone??

So if I go to the basic 2% plan all I am giving up is BOG on singles in the Sports bet and a £2 free accum bet if I have 20 qualifying bets on the exchange???
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 1:30 PM GMT
It's been clarified and anyone on the basic 2% can go to their accounts and see confirmed that if you are on this option, then you do not get BOG on Sportsbook.

So it was *YOU* who was *INCORRECT*. dc.
Report themightymac February 11, 2022 1:36 PM GMT
George is right above. 2% no BOG.
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 1:46 PM GMT
Storm Alert, have you checked the spam folder?
Report hulk23 February 11, 2022 1:48 PM GMT
your wife / budgie / golden retriever may still have BOG on their Sportsbooks.  worth checking their accounts ...

Wink
Report onlooker February 11, 2022 1:54 PM GMT
GEORGE.B Feb 22 13:30 

It's been clarified and anyone on the basic 2% can go to their accounts and see confirmed that if you are on this option, then you do not get BOG on Sportsbook.

So it was *YOU* who was *INCORRECT*. dc.
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Yes - That is the situation NOW ... But has that ALWAYS been the case, though?

The email that we have all JUST received - apparently whether you do/or never have bet on Sportsbook is a NEW email.

It is NOT a 'Just a Reminder' email .

We NEVER received a 'BOG is being Withdrawn' email, or similar - when we signed up for 2% Commission - BUT ...

We Did then forfeit our right to PROMOTIONS such as 'Cash Race' etc... apparently misconstrued by some as being Concessions.

THAT was my original point - that appears to have been missed by many - and remains so.
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 2:05 PM GMT
We NEVER received a 'BOG is being Withdrawn' email, or similar - when we signed up for 2% Commission

If you signed up to it then it was made clear, which is why some us who rarely use Sportsbook remembered, and others who use Sportsbook regularly stated it.

But feel free to keep digging.

And here's a tip, in future before you start 'shouting' at people that they're "INCORRECT", perhaps you should try getting your facts straight first?
Report onlooker February 11, 2022 2:44 PM GMT
Well - I will "keep digging" - as you Never, ever,  fail to have a Blast at me - and many others, too, I has to be said  ... that being one of the reasons why I took a sabbatical from the Forum.

If it was -  " made clear" - 'when you signed up' ... and I do NOT have recollection of such (although, it May well have been) - But I DO have recollection of our PROMOTIONS Forfeit - tat being an entirely different element than Concessions.

Then Why the Need to send those who "signed up" an email NOW - saying that 'BOG is being withdrawn' ...

When/If we never had that facility in the first place - as you somewhat strongly intimate.

Surely that is an entirely logical both Valid question and observation.

Why the continued aggressive contention.
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 3:04 PM GMT
Well - I will "keep digging" - as you Never, ever,  fail to have a Blast at me - and many others, too,

Then produce the "evidence" and let's have a discussion about it.

I has to be said  ... that being one of the reasons why I took a sabbatical from the Forum.

Who ya trying to kid?

Do you want me to help you out here? You took a "sabbatical" because you started a despicable thread about female jockeys. Do you want me to bring it back to the top?
Report GEORGE.B February 11, 2022 3:12 PM GMT
Btw, Grace has been doing very well lately, ridden some nicely backed winners for Mr Butler.
Report Storm Alert February 11, 2022 4:08 PM GMT
Had a look George but couldn't find anything in my spam folder. tbh not bothering with Betfair Sports very often as this betboost shyte seems to result in the prices always being lower than Bet365 or even Skybet on occasions. Just very occasionally betboost makes a difference but then £25 max kicks in. It's hardly worth the effort of looking. I should just set commission to 2% and be done with it.
Report basset February 11, 2022 4:17 PM GMT
they stopped my BOG on sportsbook years ago
Report saxon farm February 11, 2022 6:57 PM GMT
I fear we have lost onlooker from the forum again.
A shame as I enjoy his strong views (usually)
Report madhatters February 11, 2022 7:11 PM GMT
The mail could have something to do with tightening their systems
There are people on 2% still getting BOG even though the rewards option says you shouldnt
Report barstool February 11, 2022 7:18 PM GMT
It is not worth arguing about.

Calm down please.

Hope to see you both posting tomporrow as we do not want to lose anymore members.
Report matso February 11, 2022 10:23 PM GMT
So betfair  Customers dont want BOG ... What absolute Bollocks
Report comingupthehill February 12, 2022 6:15 AM GMT
It’s not Betfair research. It’s extensive research. I.e either the accountant or some bloke in a pub last Tuesday.

But don’t worry.money back if your horse fails to place is replacing it. Great. Oh hang on. 1 race a day only. Today 1.15pm 5 runners.2 places. Odds on fav.

You’d think they’d pick the Betfair hurdle given its the first day this useless offer is being applied then slowly slip into 5 runner races going forward.

But no.

Baldfred the only firm offering this now. Presume he ll follow suit.

Why don’t bookies just stop offering odds. And state if you back a winner. You ll get an email saying well done.
Report Storm Alert February 12, 2022 10:14 AM GMT
Storm Alert - tbh not bothering with Betfair Sports very often as this offers or betboost shyte seems to result in the prices always being lower than Bet365 or even Skybet on occasions.

Case-in-point Newbury 1:15 money back if selections fails to place. Pats Fancy (my selection), 7/2 Betfair but 5/1 most other bookies. Every selection I want to back today is a lower price with Betfair than Bet365, making the betboost offer irrelevant. Betfair exchange liquidity as usual is awful this time of day. A complete waste of time even looking at prices on this site.
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