Even Robbie doesn't back u up, Honco -he admitted much of what he was accused - just u and he can't see that the world has moved on: it never was acceptable behaviour and cert isn't now - even in the dinosaur's weighing room. But I am happy to accept that for the most part , the majority of jocks are more sporting and decent tho they have some dumb rides occasionally!

Bryony's not had a winner since yesterday.

However, it probably is true to say she does not get the outside rides you'd expect for someone of her talent, except for Lucy Wadham, although she did pop up riding one in Ireland for Willie Mullins the other day.

Has he decided to appeal yet?

Haven't seen anything in the press.

Her win %age this season is 21%, the same as Brian Hughes (best jock in the UK by miles).
Why on earth do you think Nicholls will ease her out?
There is a good argument that she should be No 1 in his yard.

Oh, she is definitely better than Cobden, he falls off too often.

Best jockey is worked out on level stake profit. Blimey.

Err I don't think so. Lorcan Williams, good young jockey with PN, just ridden out his claim 20% -42.35.
Level stake profit tells me where the value is. But agree, AP great jockey, massive loser to a £1 level stake.
Fact is she is as good, and I think better, than Cobden. 3 of my last 4 bets on Cobden, he has fallen off, so he isn't my favourite jock at the moment.

Nice Gagging. Totally agree. Happy New Year.

Correct.
If it had happened in any other country the wokists would have been up in arms fully supporting the disadvantaged.

But not in the totally fecked up u k

Absolutely correct visor.

The jockeys I’ve spoken to are still incensed about that the rancid quote. When are the other victims of this rancid weighing room going to come forward with their cases.

If there is no evidence or no proof,why hasn't he taken her to court for defamation of character or for being libeled. If its that straightforward he must be 1.01 to win.
There may well be a reason why little has been said by him or his lawyers but if it was me and I was innocent, I would be letting the world now I was appealing and taking her to court.

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Which jockeys have you spoke to hibore?

Who is incenced with the rancid quote?


The thickets who dont understand what was actually said.

That may be the problem though, retired,senior jockeys may well think its normal behaviour, when it's not. What was acceptable 10 years ago isn't now, rightly or wrongly.
Rancid may well be a strong word to describe it but I have no doubt there is a packing order and people are supposed to accept what it is and accept what goes on.

Dunne admitted to a couple of angry outbursts and that seemed to satisfy the 3 wise men that an 18 month ban was justified.
No idea why some mitigation wasn't allowed - They both got along ok until the incident where Dunne's horse was killed. He blamed Frost's careless riding. Many senior jocks agreed that her riding is often reckless.
Frost was suspended in November for a reckless riding incident 3 out at Cheltenham. Can anybody tell me when this has happened before, ie a reckless riding offence so far out in a jumps race because I cannot think of any. How would Frost have reacted if it was her horse that was killed? Lots of tears maybe

mr dunne can appeal-he is a bully+ has to deal with an 18 months ban. An independent tribunal found him guilty-the evidence was corroborated by witnesses. He needs to serve his time + shouldn't be allowed to have a licence until he offers and unreserved apology to bryony Frost.

The jockeys’ union states that it “does not accept” the panel’s findings “in relation to the culture within and collective behaviour of the jump jockeys weighing room. It is a grossly inaccurate and wholly unfair representation of the weighing-room and a conclusion we believe is at odds with the evidence presented.” The panel itself – which is independent of the BHA – is accused of bias, with a claim that it has a “long and striking track record” of “failure ever to criticise the BHA, its case management and its processes”. And the PJA is “appalled” that Louis Weston, the BHA’s representative, characterised the weighing room as “rancid” during the proceedings.

Hibore et al - we are seeing this 'culture' from the jock's room and its not pleasant. I doubt that BF as  a type of'whistle blower' even now is being treated fairly and with respect for what she has opened up but from the reaction of some 'senior / ex jocks' it clearly does need to be brought into the 20th century.
I can remember way back when Fallon senior got in to fights or combative situations with other jocks and and more recent incidents with scenarios where the dangerous situation of trying to get up the inside late race esp with fences has caused huge friction, but more usually there seemed more good sportsmanship and camaraderie amongst jockeys and this was frequently picked up by the media.
Flashing your little willie and in this case evidently many months of harassing and bullying should have been stopped by wiser heads. It's easy to conclude there aren't any wiser heads currently in the weighing room - this case is now over but everyone in racing needs to pay heed to the damage done and work to improve things and not let matters deteriorate again.
That won't  be done by trying to sweep things under the carpet or holding grudges - it was absolutely right to call out this poor behaviour so people clearly know what's acceptable or not - this crossed too many lines and cannot be dismissed as prolonged 'banter'.

@Hibore -- the PJA has walked back from its initial statement which you quote, and (or although, depending which way you interpret the news) Paul Struthers has stepped down as PJA boss.