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Ramruma
01 Jan 22 07:50
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On a scale of 1-10, how much does it help Robbie Dunne to have you constantly reminding everyone of the case against him, iyo?

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By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 01 Jan 22 08:20
Tom Daley has been made a dame.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 01 Jan 22 08:45
She entered a male dressing room and then got all flushed and upset when she saw a willy

Its like us walking into a female dressing room and then cowing in the corner sucking our thumbs and asking for our mums
By:
Bindaree
When: 01 Jan 22 09:31
I thought she saw a useless obnoxious prick?
By:
Blackrock
When: 01 Jan 22 10:45
C'mon Honcho give it a rest now. Your'e doing yourself no good by obsessing over Bryony.
By:
geoff m
When: 01 Jan 22 12:46
and still Honcho struggling to come to terms with Dunne being found guilty of BULLYING.
By:
Ramruma
When: 01 Jan 22 12:53
Erm, has Honcho's OP been zapped by the forum police?

Or was it their libel lawyers?
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 01 Jan 22 12:59
A knighthood for Blair, how horrendous that is.
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 01 Jan 22 13:14
We've not had a grovelling apology, for something that's clearly libellous, since MickWheble. They're always quite funnyLaugh
By:
lead on
When: 01 Jan 22 13:21
Rather unusual opening post from Ramruma
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Jan 22 13:40
Never thought this was Ramrumas style.....Shocked.Shocked
By:
blackbarn
When: 01 Jan 22 13:45
For those who have not spotted the obvious, Ramruna's post is not the initial post attached to the header. HTH
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Jan 22 14:40
10.  This female jockey should never be forgiven for what she has done in this instance.
By:
geoff m
When: 01 Jan 22 14:46
The guilty BULLY Dunne should never be forgiven for what hes done in this case(and previous)
By:
sageform
When: 01 Jan 22 14:50
If she gets an award which is doubtful, it will be for her riding ability.
By:
kevo
When: 01 Jan 22 14:51
We know what LoyalHoncho's epitath will be engraved on his headstone.
By:
geoff m
When: 01 Jan 22 14:59
Here lies the mysoginistic dinosaur....................
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Jan 22 15:06
Just wait till she does it again, then come back to me about epitaphs.
By:
geoff m
When: 01 Jan 22 15:21
Im sure the weighing room will be mindful of bullying her in the future.Hence she will have no need to take the course of action she did, as in this case.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 01 Jan 22 18:17
She won, he lost, you were wrong. Move on, LoyalHoncho.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Jan 22 18:43
I'm not wrong in the slightest.  She made the worst possible allegation that can be made against a man, by a woman, uncorroborated, unsubstantiated,  cried like a baby during questioning, and got everyone on board to leave the man with a stain on his character - inappropriate sexual conduct in a changing room.
With no evidence to back it up whatsoever.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 01 Jan 22 18:43
I'm not wrong in the slightest.  She made the worst possible allegation that can be made against a man, by a woman, uncorroborated, unsubstantiated,  cried like a baby during questioning, and got everyone on board to leave the man with a stain on his character - inappropriate sexual conduct in a changing room.
With no evidence to back it up whatsoever.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 01 Jan 22 21:32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU
By:
geoff m
When: 01 Jan 22 21:48
LoyalHoncho01 Jan 22 18:43Joined: 28 May 10 | Topic/replies: 7,912 | Blogger: LoyalHoncho's blog
I'm not wrong in the slightest.


Just remind us who has been riding in Grade 1 chases this week whilst Robbies sat @ home drinking special brew and sticking pins in a Bryony voodoo doll.

Yer backed a loser .
It happens.
Get over it.
By:
blackbarn
When: 01 Jan 22 21:56
It has just occurred to me that, based on his posts, loyalhoncho may not have read the findings of the independent committee examining this issue. He seems to thing that this was a court of law rather than what it was; an enquiry judging the matter solely on the balance of probabilities. Even given this, the outcome is pretty damning.

quote.....
In handing down a guilty verdict on four charges that Robbie Dunne bullied and harassed Bryony Frost, the three-person independent disciplinary panel were not obliged to give detailed explanation, with written reasons set to be published in due course. But in what he described as a "short ruling", panel chair Brian Barker QC delivered a withering rebuke not only to Dunne but to the culture around him in the weighing room that failed to check his behaviour towards Frost.

We have in mind that what has to be shown, on the balance of probabilities, is behaviour which is prejudicial to the integrity, proper conduct or good reputation of racing in this country. It is common ground that the heart of the case is our conclusion as to what was said and done and the weight that we give to the reliability of those called to give evidence.

We don't ignore the fact that the sport is one of constant danger and unpredictability with falls and injury a constant fear.

The need then for trust and respect is paramount. The need is also in an environment and workplace where men and women compete with courage on equal terms, safe in the knowledge that the standards universal in other walks of life will apply.

Our conclusion then on the whole of the evidence is that a course of deliberate conduct over a significant period of time has been revealed.

It has progressed from disgraceful targeting, through deliberate harassment both on and off the course, and onwards to occasional cases of dangerous bullying.

We find that the words used on September 3 were as a promise to cause real harm and were over and above the usual jockey mantra of "murdering".

Who is Robbie Dunne? From struggling conditional to weighing room 'enforcer'

On examination of Miss Frost's evidence and demeanour we find her to be truthful, careful and compelling. By taking her complaint to the authority she has broken the code, knowing that isolation and rejection by some was inevitable.

Our view is supported in a number of areas.

The first is the published Instagram [sic] comments on the Virtual Grand National.

Second is the snatched apology at Bangor.

The third is the video of the encounter in the pull-up area at Stratford, combined with the independence and the solid evidence of the fence attendant, and also the acceptance of at least some offensive behaviour at Southwell. And that’s all followed by Miss Frost’s unofficial report to the BHA.

The evidence of Miss [Hannah] Welch, which we also found persuasive, is admissible support of attitude and of stepping beyond the bounds.

In acknowledging that after the Southwell race, Mr Dunne believed that Miss Frost was the cause of his mount's death and that he had suffered a fall, we are unable to accept Mr Dunne's sweep of denials, criticisms and his reasoning. A man who in the view of one of his own witnesses was a "pisstaker" and who regarded himself as one of the elders of the weighing room and someone who expected his view to be heeded.

We find the four elements set out in rule J19 allegation, we find all levels proven.

Barker then added two short observations as to the wider relevance of the case.

The tenor and type of language that we find was used towards Ms Frost is totally unacceptable, whatever the frustrations about her style and whatever the habits of the weighing room. They fall squarely within the ambit of the prohibition set out in the rule.

Secondly, in reviewing the evidence given and the approach by jockeys of repute as well as by the valets – who probably find themselves in a difficult position – we have real concern that what was referred to by Mr [Louis] Weston as the "weighing room culture" is deep-rooted and coercive.

unquote:
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 02 Jan 22 00:27
I didn't back a loser at all.  I never once even suggested that Dunne was either innocent or guilty.   I repeatedly said that the whole enquiry was flawed from start to finish, that evidence and corroboration was almost non-existent and that the female jockey Ms Frost went out of her way to have a colleague removed from his livelihood.  And I say it again and I'll keep saying it.  Robbie Dunne was found guilty in advance for all sorts of reasons.
It is disgusting how she played her "sex" into this fiasco in  order to besmirch the name and reputation of Robbie Dunne.  Absolutely disgusting.
By:
Hayden
When: 02 Jan 22 10:18
Yes i know the answer is not to read the thread but.......

This has to be one of the most tedious , uninteresting & annoying sagas in sporting history.

A saga that 99% of the sports followers couldn't give a **** about one way or the other.
By:
isleham
When: 02 Jan 22 11:38
some of her evidence was uncorrobarated because the other male jockeys used their brains (very tiny) and stuck with their male mate and the likes of Lizzie Kelly didn't  want to rock the gravy train she is now firmly seated on
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 11:52
So basically, you take BF at her word and there were no witnesses because they have diff agendas
How convenient
How about there were no witnesses because no-one saw anything? Why besmirch the characters of other jocks so you can force a narrative you require?
Just totally biased nonsensical way of thinking
Just be honest and say you believe BF because of emotion and don't kid yourself you are applying logic
By:
Wesdag
When: 02 Jan 22 12:14
#TeamRobbie still seething.

Cry
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 12:23
Well done Wes. That's a new one!
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 12:32
While you are here Wes, can I ask a q?
You have access to drone pics?
How many races a week are not available because of poor connection, updating software, problems with drone, do you get with your "provider"?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 12:32
and stuttery pics?
By:
Wesdag
When: 02 Jan 22 12:39
Only ever had drone pics for a 1 day trial here about 2 months ago.

I can let you know who to ask if interested.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 12:48
I just wanted to know if these sort of problems are common to drone providers?
Who you recommend to ask Wes?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 12:48
Obviously more probs in winter with wind and fog etc
By:
Wesdag
When: 02 Jan 22 13:02
Sent you PM as I'm not sure whether he wants the publicity.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 02 Jan 22 13:07
Replied, cheers for info Wes. Happy
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 02 Jan 22 13:10
A fred from the 80's

Did you also know E.T is 40 years old.
By:
Wesdag
When: 02 Jan 22 13:13

Jan 2, 2022 -- 1:07PM, Jumping-cuckoo-monk wrote:


Replied, cheers for info Wes.


No probs

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