1.01 Colour mix up

commentator called the wrong un?

1.01 Fillon

That cdve been a lot worse for some

Watched and called the winner Cushinstown Finest home only to hear Hanlon not mention it when naming the 1st 3 . good job my eyes work

Good job my ears don't.

virtually impossible to distinguish after last unless you had followed imo.

I didn't listen to comms and still backed the wrong one and wondered where my 50 quid hadn't been put in my account

if your trying to bet horses in the last 2f on blv you will get sectioned.

Disagree with that rico. I still bet last 2 furlongs on lv from time to time, both flat and jumps and doing fine.

its fine if they dont look the winner.

and everyones doing fine..till requested to substantiate it.

Can still bet last 2 furlongs if looks 'likely' winner imo...obviously if its clear cut then different story

I dont mean sub 1.1s when 2l clear or something but plenty races theres still a few in with a chance last furlong etc where you can still bet

i dont know 1 person who's making it pay backing.

but i do know plenty who's went skint or struggling.

Probably because vast majority you know will have been in the boxes with you with a huge advantage for years but theyre now getting found
out on a near level playing field. I'd be very surprised though, if all those that were in the boxes with you though,  that there wasnt still a couple
of them at least that are still winning backing.

They surely aint all losing just because its went levels for most

Finally, sense.

Instead of those with their feet previously under the table inventing the bogeyman because they cant face the fact it was the time that kept them afloat

Be a few good ex track players that are more than good enough to win from home still

not one person i know who backs wins over time.

dont believe that rico, sorry but it doesnt sound right. They cant all have been 100% reliant on track pics

theres no liquidity..aint you noticed?

I've been backing last 2 furlongs since the start and although VERY MODEST compared to many on here, I'm in lifetime profit.

if u and jd are betting in last 2f on blv and making decent money you're the best in country bar non.

mebbe both of you's poast last 3mths and todays p&l and we can all say wd.

Well, I've said I'm very modest profits, over 18 years, 100 quid a week on average.

But if someone said to me pre Betfair when I was walking out of the bookies potless day after day if I fancied winning 100 a week for the next 18 years I'd have thought I'd won the lottery!!

consistent

doen't matter duffy whether it's a tenner or how you do it, ws

wd

jerry again but yes Workrider will be on to defend him through those green tinted

I'm only a small punter these days just enough to keep the brain ticking over and the majority of my betting (which itself is now mostly lays) is in-running. All bets done at home over not very high speed broadband using Racing TV or BLV and Betfair only software. I have to admit I'm also not very quick.

Although it's definitely got harder and much fewer gimmes, I still regularly make a profit so it can be done.

hmm thought id won £90 but discovered later id lost £600 - f u c k   - wondered why my bank was slow to get back to where it should have been

i find the colours can be more unreliable than the commentators on my screen so use a mixture of judgements in my IR backs and lays - got truely screwed in this race"!

Carrott and Hushwing know their stuff...?
Course commentator was https://twitter.com/rpdarkhorse.
I was on good terms with myself coming to the second last having backed Ask Nile @33's, luckily I had a saver on the winner @14's

winner and mcmanus hoss looked identical.

duffy  Oct 21 16:21 
Well, I've said I'm very modest profits, over 18 years, 100 quid a week on average.

do you pay PC?

Guess the "on average" will be how you don't pay PC

win £500 a week lose £400 net result +£100

you pay pc.

Win £100 one race, lose £97 the next, pay £2 commission on £3 of winnings, total charges are 67% of your profit, and no premium charge.

Do that over 28 in-running races a day, and you make £14/day, or £98/week, and no pc.

Haven't a clue whether that is how duffy operates.

Think your working is wrong there screaming.

28 races, 14 wins 14 losses
Win 1400
Lose 1358
(While technically they pretend you don’t pay commission on losses, you effectively do as they half the amount of commission you actually pay)

Profit 42-28 = 14 quid a day (50p a race, where bf make a quid a race off you)
Having paid 28 commission in reality

(14/42)*100= 33.3% so no PC and you won’t live long enough to qualify for HRPC @40% requirement.

50p a race net and a bucket load of risk.

* actually scrap that
It’s been years since I bothered looking and remembered they add market average on the losses before dividing it….which would make it close to streaming’s %

‘Implied’ or some other ethereal language.
They still take out more from you than you keep in the above example, having taken all the risk.

They still use gross profit though in the calculation to determine whether you qualify for PC, which itself contains the commission they take from your winnings you never see.

if you pay 20% pc you need to turn over 1700% of your net winnings..

ie net win £100 you'd need to win £900 and lose £800 to avoid paying pc.

Oct 24, 2021 -- 5:13PM, duffy wrote:

I've been backing last 2 furlongs since the start and although VERY MODEST compared to many on here, I'm in lifetime profit.

your 18 years means sh1t, last 2 years is completely different story, doesn't matter how good or bad you did in the past, it's different game now

best in the business if hes a backer in the last 2-3f and winning every week..i tip my hat.

(on blv)

I'm a backer, £5 and £10's, have a pre back override at 3 set at all times and a lay at 2.2, I never f&nny around mid race wondering whether to ask for fanciful prices and then wonder why I don't get matched, my thinking is that I'm good (lucky)enough over time to hit enough of the bigger prices anyway.

Profits come predominantly through the turf flat season, never paid a penny in PC.

As I said, the vast majority of what I win comes in a 6 month period with the jumps season  happy just to get through anywhere near even, perhaps that keeps me away from PC, 3 mile small field slow motion races are harder to catch anything in for me.

My total charges is 22.83% and it's been hovering around 22 for years.

Question - can you have (say) 10 winning weeks & one losing week regularly and not pay the PC?

only the week you dont win

Lee Ho Fooks 25 Oct 21 14:28 
Question - can you have (say) 10 winning weeks & one losing week regularly and not pay the PC?

simply depends solely on turnover.

Thanks

Question - can you have (say) 10 winning weeks & one losing week regularly and not pay the


re that scenario.if you are paying pc and have 10 winning weeks where your charges are less than 20% then you will pay pc..if you then for eg lose £1000..you can then win £1000 without incurring pc.
everyone in the forum wins and non pay pc..not sure where i went wrong

It was when it happened to someone who's not paying PC that I was wondering about. I seem to remember that at one time you could have a losing week after a number of winning ones and that would strike off the winning ones with regard to PC (but I could be wrong).

no cos its dealt with on a week by week basis..if u won £1000 a week for 10 weeks you'd pay £200 (-charges) then if you lost £10,000 you can win that before pc is reapplied.