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last 3f or so theres £1-£8 in every back box...under 20p in ev lay box if laying over 20..where is this liquidity you talk about?
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"Hold on. I won 13k one day, (my best ever day I may add) and Betfair never mentioned PC to me."
you don't pay PC if a certain % of your lifetime profit was down to a single large win, can't remember exactly how it is worded |
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i was away from betfair for about 6 years and recently returned
when i left standard commission was 5%, now it's 2% why did they do that? that's nice but makes it even harder to avoid PC now? |
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Rico, not splitting hairs but it wasn’t drone pics I took from you over a couple of months years ago it was FT
A product that never seems to get mentioned nowadays…which coincides with the fact some are finding it harder given the improvement of pictures angle offered those who now take drones in its place. |
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As I have always said; if you can’t make do with the official LV then winter is coming.
Paying money outside of racing for pictures especially when paying PC on winnings you use to pay the fee is the slow hand clap of death. |
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You’ve got no choice with the ATR meetings they are a farce.
Not saying it’s gunna happen but say the box lads give up the ATR tracks and every single one of them uses a drone and not LV, do you think it would twist ATR arm to do something about the utter garbage served up? |
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I know several who take the drone pics and they say they are like refugees on a life raft all selling on the pics to a collection of others and the raft keeps going under as the server lets them down.
The owners of the raft keep booting people off or limiting availability as they only get a fraction of the money that gets passed around down the line. Winter is literally coming too….wind and rain, the ATR box boys won’t be giving up their seats just yet I wouldn’t imagine. |
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Dusty- Any idea how much the pictures would cost the average Joe if they were interested or is it all a closed shop? there must be a fair bit of cost involved hosting servers travelling around e.t.c but there obviously is plenty of demand. Did somebody say there were 5 up somewhere the other day
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Dont know RR
Dont think they pay for the servers though, but those who run them are only the top of the ponzi scheme, each person taking them creates their own hop by selling them and Im certain they dont pay for servers |
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post your last 3mths p&l dusty..show everyone theres still hope.
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Saturation of the drone market kills the edge.
I'd like to see the side on pics for myself to satisfy my curiosity but don't have the connections. I have no idea how to navigate around twitter and facebook to find the drone providers anyway. |
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Ok Dusty - After the initial fury must assume the courses have come to the conclusion there is absolutely nothing they can do about them as long as they are a field/garden/ lane away outside of racecourse property
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Racecourse Regular, stayinin in mentioned the cost could be around £25 per day if you look around
You'll need a tablet I assume? |
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Rico
If ppl care what others make on here then there is infact no hope for them |
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Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds Backer's stake Payout Liability Showbusiness 150 £0.18 £26.82 Showbusiness 170 £0.15 £25.35 £579.69 Showbusiness 440 £0.04 £17.56 Showbusiness 490 £0.23 £112.47 Showbusiness 800 £0.30 £239.70 Showbusiness 880 £0.10 £87.90 Showbusiness 890 £0.01 £8.89 Showbusiness 950 £0.10 £94.90 Showbusiness 1,000 £3.18 £3,176.82 a hd down 50yds out..you get what you ask for with a bit appeasement along the way. |
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Thanks Cuckoo - You would really need 10 customers a day to make it worth your while but as Dusty says plenty piggbacking am sure at still faster than anything available elsewhere
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Thanks Cuckoo - You would really need 10 customers a day to make it worth your while but as Dusty says plenty piggbacking am sure at still faster than anything available elsewhere
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Rico -Roberto on Speed there
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post your last 3mths p&l dusty..
c'mon show theres still hope..youve posted p&l's before..nowt to hide. |
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Also nowt to prove.
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c'mon show theres still hope.
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Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds Backer's stake Payout Liability Burrows Diamond 300 £0.03 £8.97 Burrows Diamond 370 £0.86 £317.34 Burrows Diamond 400 £0.05 £19.95 Burrows Diamond 430 £0.10 £42.90 Burrows Diamond 490 £0.23 £112.47 Burrows Diamond 780 £0.44 £342.76 Burrows Diamond 880 £0.10 £87.90 Burrows Diamond 890 £0.01 £8.89 Burrows Diamond 950 £0.01 £9.49 Burrows Diamond 960 £0.05 £47.95 Burrows Diamond 1,000 £0.08 £79.92 Pateen 940 £0.05 £46.95 Pateen 950 £0.41 £389.09 Pateen 960 £0.05 £47.95 Pateen 980 £0.15 £146.85 Pateen 1,000 £0.55 £549.45 roberto isnt in control says dusty. ![]() |
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Dusty, I arent interested whether you worth 10m, 1m or nothing its not important.
But what is important is that you can show us how to do it on ATR? Your telling me you make a very good living from ATR vid? Again im not interested in HOW you do it, just post the P&L and show us its poss, cheers in advance |
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Maybe the tactics have come to the end of the road?
Nothing more certain than change. |
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I wasnt sure I was exactly giving coaching Swaddle.
Ive just gone and looked, my top 10 tracks for profit only have 3 ATR tracks now (its an ongoing tally) Wolves top Southwell second (I like the sand obvs) Then no more ATRs until Worc at 8 But then I dont play as many ATR tracks anymore |
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post your last 3mths p&l dusty..
c'mon show theres still hope..youve posted p&l's before..nowt to hide. |
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2 ATR tracks at the top dusty, that will upset a few.
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Been a long time since I posted p/l on here rico
And when I did what did I gain for it? People should show an interest in their own activity, what others do should be of no concern, nor does it imply they will do the same. |
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without substantiated dustys rhetoric is mere fantasy is it not? not be the first time i may add..
he's also a top invested consultant on sheffield high st..mans a geenius. |
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without substantiation dustys rhetoric is mere fantasy is it not? not be the first time i may add..
he's also a top investment consultant on sheffield high st..mans a geenius. |
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twice
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without substantiation dustys rhetoric is mere fantasy is it not? not be the first time i may add..
he's also a top investment consultant on sheffield high st..mans a geenius. twice. |
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Its pretty funny how you think this would effect me.
Besides, people can draw their own conclusions I wont lose any sleep over it. Out of interest why has Hexham got the heave ho, is it lack of fuel to run around between meetings or is it the dreaded robert thats soured it for you? |
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Country Pyle 2.5's lmao, free money
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missing races..traffic **** on fri tea times..drone negates advantage home straight..typical no drones when i dont attend..such is life.
glad to hear that while everyone i speak to is finding the game impossible its had no effect to your p&l. on that i tip my hat. wd dusty. |
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I dont know where your obsession with other people came from
Im about 15k short of my 40wk avg point, not that it matters Some years more infront odd time behind Theres a reason for it, but youd think it was making excuses so Im not prepared to be drawn into it. |
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Why no drones at hexam today rico?
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blowing a hoolie..
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ricardo sez type anything you like dusty..without substantiation its all fantasy island stuff.
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I dont need your or anyone's approval...
I wouldnt mind if Id been pumping my gums about how well Id been doing, theres several on here I trust to be doing little different to previous years and who dont get into your challenges. You just sour because Ive made a case that the fish you used to pinch from are now out of reach due to changing tech. |