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Wasn't wrong though was he, he just comments on how they appear not about the price, decent fella imo.
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sure did get it correct.
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He's on William Hill radio. They all look nice, every runner, every race, every day. That is called insight.
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been saying lovely medium sized colt since the year 2000
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I see Ken at every Friday meeting I go to in the paddock with his mates. Nebbed in a few times. He knows his onions and a nice chap
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How would you get a job as a paddock judge?
I mightn't know what a scopey horse looks like, or if its close coupled, daisy cutter, in of knee, behind the knee but I have the lingo! |
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Sky racing expert says 'Horse looks big and strong' after winning, trainer interview reveals 'Horse is very weak and has a lot of growing into his frame to do', 'Yes, I agree.' They talk Oblox
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surely the whole point is to tell us something we dont know and not to state the bleeding obvious
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Best paddock judge ever GERALD DELAMERE
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miss cumani likes to point stuff out when horse is on screen
very helpful. would be better, imo, if kens observations were backed up with pictures too. |
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no one spotted harringtons older horse in a parade ring of 2yr olds
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.Brilliant ..G Delamere was brilliant tipster and always worth following a shame the post dropped such a brilliant man... |
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in the early days of ch 4 coverage now and then they had a well known newmarket work watcher on ,giving a few nuggets,
cant remember his name but often wondered if it was WILLO |
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I concur with Delemare…top class. I think the biggest change I notice was when Ken took over the weekender column and he was getting his going reports from the jockeys rather than walking the course before hand like GD. Apart from that I think he’s okay considering he’s not on itv every single race 24/7…I think if they just used him for G1s or the race of the day ie heritage handicap then it’s perfectly fine.
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East remember that day at Ascot we didn't need going reports then..
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I think Ken is first class myself. Great columns in weekender too
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Why is he first class exactly?
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Swifty,
I use the old a level grading system. First class is top 10% for me |
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Does he lead you to lots of winners?
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1st time poster14 Sep 21 09:09
in the early days of ch 4 coverage now and then they had a well known newmarket work watcher on ,giving a few nuggets, cant remember his name but often wondered if it was WILLO Be pretty sure it wasn't Willo. I couldn't remember this, but after a google search of Newmarket work watchers, I seem to recall Tony Elves being on now and then. |
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Wasn't there another Tony, a work watcher, who used to advertise his "services" in the RP?
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I just read and listen for general interest personally. Betting is only 50% of the game for me
I can just enjoy watching the game sometimes |
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Fair enough. He seems like a decent chap. In saying that , he is not a presenter , he is an 'expert' so he should really need to prove his value by P/L I would have thought. Not that it really ever seems to matter. I guess the obvious answer is if he made the game pay he wouldn't be phoning through to Hills radio every afternoon from the parade ring answering the same old questions.
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Yes thats how he makes his money. Don't they all. Mellish used to be a pro punter. Good on him. Nice lifestyle.
I dont listen to him for tips. Just general interest |
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swiftynifty • September 14, 2021 12:36 PM BST: I guess the obvious answer is if he made the game pay he wouldn't be phoning through to Hills radio every afternoon from the parade ring answering the same old questions.
Alot of these guys, I suppose, are taking the guaranteed paycheck.... very hard to go into the bank manager and convince him you are a pro punter. He'd laugh you out the of the building |
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Indeed. Its multi tasking. Spreading your sources of income
Wish I could have part of the gigg myself! I would love to rock up with matt and Leona and talk tripe at 9.30 every Saturday for £300 |
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Alot of these guys, I suppose, are taking the guaranteed paycheck.... very hard to go into the bank manager and convince him you are a pro punter. He'd laugh you out the of the building..
Bank manager has the evidence already. |
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Tony Jakobsen may be the work watcher/ tipster you were referring to George B.
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always nice to have guaranteed income I'd agree, but nicer to be your own boss.
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the new market watcher on ch 4 was on around the same time that neil wilkins fella from laddies and vc bet was always on
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Have met Ken a nice guy but asking him for paddock pointers on group races is pretty pointless have him come on and judge unraced maidens would make much more sense.
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Everytime I see him he reminds me of one of the old fairground clairvoyant, tips the first two in the market, and then quickly avoids the question when asked for any negatives. !
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Thanks Border Reiver, think he's the one, his advert pic in the RP was of him on the gallops with his bins.
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strange the amount of negativity directed towards someone that simply tells you how a horse looks. I sometimes use him if listening for confirmation on strong fancies. He has put me on many outsiders mostly for savers when he has mentioned how their looks did not correlate with their price, his opinion is never too far off. Considerably better than most on here.
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Agree with luke about Ken who always seems to attract people eager to criticise him.
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george baker in paddock always puts me on one that looks fit and well
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Maybe I have missed all Ken's good tipping, must admit only seen him
On ITV Racing a couple of times and he was maybe below form. |
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cool_hand_luke 14 Sep 21 13:16
Considerably better than most on here. At what, please? |
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ken gets paid to do a job where he basically cannot lose if he says a horse looks well and it loses nothing is said if a horse looks fat and wins nothing is said basically it is an unmonitored career no one knows his actual p and l because he does not advise bets all he has to do is keep turning up and not upset his bosses job for life and keep up with same spiel well done ken.
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