stewards carlisle

think winner may lose this

keep or no?

gotta go.

winner has to go imo

2nd past post should be sub 1.5

will go

Keep

Amy thinks it only affected the third

should lose it

If that doesn't come down there's no point in having rules.

tricky one, accidental bump 1 and a half out, would the runner up have won without the bump ? Had loads of time to get past

I think it keeps it. The second had ample opportunity to go on and win it if good enough.

Demoted.

Goes

winner barged into 3rd and knocked fav 2-3yds left..beat 6"..has to go.

A perfect example of why the pundits shouldn't be related to those with runners, e.g Ryan and Harrington. Ryan's comments are a joke.

I backed the 2nd but can't see this being overturned.

Think orignal winner big price at 11/8, did it defo 100% cause the interference?

Would other 1 100% went by? I dont know

Not very biased of her was it, George

Said Kevin stott had whip in wrong hand as well, she had to be corrected, embarrassing

Backed the winner pre race, layed off to save stake in the photo at 1.39

amy has a touch of the arsene wengers she saw nothing

Whoever that is on racing UK he's talking some amount of rubbish. Blaming the breeze on not knowing the result, whip in right hand oh no it was the wrong hand etc etc.

1.7 to 1.4 now

Plunge on Messi..

ItsMeSwaddle 17 Aug 21 16:43 
Think orignal winner big price at 11/8, did it defo 100% cause the interference?

try watching hd on yfdsc.

MJK 17 Aug 21 16:44 
Whoever that is on racing UK he's talking some amount of rubbish. Blaming the breeze on not knowing the result, whip in right hand oh no it was the wrong hand etc etc.


You try being stuck in the potting shed

Thats why I didnt knar yah SC!!!

If that don't go it's a free for all betting on stewards, the question should be what did the winner do right!

Whip in wrong hand, barges into 3rd who barges into runner up causing major interference, wins a short head

Can be no other result, amended

Was there interference yes , did the interference effect the result 50/50 , well the runner up did have over a furlong to go past and he didn't

50/50?

Agree with carrot, shouldn't be amended and I did back it

agreed carrot

Whip in WRONG hand, time to do away with these stupid rules, place him 3rd and ban him, the only way they'll ever learn.

This one shouldnt actually take long, easy decision. Just throw it out and move on

The runner up lost at least 1/2 a length as a result of the interference but finished a head behind

the winner. How has the interference not cost it the race?

I agree 100% with Carrot.

Agree roggrain

carrot, so because he didn't make up the 1/2l he lost from being sideswiped in the last 100yds left, the aggressor should go unpunished. Can't have that.

Got to go for the reasons James Dean said. Significant interference and held on by a short head. 2nd clearly lost a lot more than a short head.

Would the second have won with another half furlong to run? I doubt it.

carrot1960 17 Aug 21 16:47 
Was there interference yes , did the interference effect the result 50/50 , well the runner up did have over a furlong to go past and he didn't

has the 2nd being knocked 2-3yds sideways cost it 6"?  has to have.

There should be another stewards into why it has taken them so long, it is clear cut

going to keep it

if the bump was inside the last 50 yards then it would go, but it was over a furlong out, and accidental. Id keep the placings unaltered if I was a steward

carrot1960 17 Aug 21 16:47
Was there interference yes , did the interference effect the result 50/50 , well the runner up did have over a furlong to go past and he didn't

it happened 3/4 fur out.

amended

Clear cut best horse finished a close second moral winner, come on Stewards get a grip

TameTheTiger 17 Aug 21 16:55 
if the bump was inside the last 50 yards then it would go, but it was over a furlong out

didnt.

That's a fair assessment tiger

reversed i think

yes

correct result stewards said it is not 50 50 carrott

oi oi, amended, well done stewards...

Tiger, whether the bump was accidental or not is irrelavent .

Took their time but got it right.

could have gone either way that one

some people need eyes checked..interference happened inside last fur.

i did actually break my glasses today

tame tiger if my aunty had wheels she would have been a bike

Hey dangler bow out gently you are way off naff off

gtfydc.

The bump was a furlong out the runner up had plenty of time to get back up and would not have gone past in another furlong.

Rico

Not only did the bump occur a furlong out the runner up only moved about a foot off its intended line , i suggest you take your own advice and get your eyes checked.

interference was maybe 1 stride inside final furlong. I was wrong when i said 1 and a half furlongs

not sure why  'would not have gone past in another furlong' really should matter. If he was still being held by a short head for another furlong the facts are he lost a metre or more, became unbalanced and was beaten inches. a good decision.

and if this is the new direction of travel for UK stewarding then great, you don't penalise/eradicate bad riding by letting interference go unpunished.

how far out do we go with this ? a furlong out and lots think it should be reversed, and it was. What if it was 2f out,or 3f out,or even right after the start ? ? Is there a distance where it wont matter if there is a bump

It was in front a stride before and a stride after the line. Without the bump it wins on the line as well.

TTT, in the UK it seems the stewards only bother watching the last couple of furlongs max. Plenty get wiped out early and nothing to see. Completely different in the US, stewards there watch the whole race, they earn their corn. There was that race a couple of days back the winner cut up the 2nd 2 out, then comfortably held on, no change, can't remember if they even looked.

carrot1960 17 Aug 21 17:31 
Rico

Not only did the bump occur a furlong out the runner up only moved about a foot off its intended line , i suggest you take your own advice and get your eyes checked.

re watch it on replay..there was no contact with the 2nd until inside the fur..fact.

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carrot1960 17 Aug 21 16:47
Was there interference yes , did the interference effect the result 50/50 , well the runner up did have over a furlong to go past and he didn't

it happened 3/4 fur out.


One stride isnt 3/4 of a furlong ydc

Correct decision to swap them around even though I had layed the Fav.

TameTheTiger 17 Aug 21 16:55 
if the bump was inside the last 50 yards then it would go, but it was over a furlong out,

you need to work the track angle out.

Give it a rest the bump was a furlong out ,