is it just me or RTV clearly went same way as SKY in terms of delay?

Betfair LV often near a sec ahead of RTV

£2 in most boxes last 3f...

a 1.01 overide £100 goes 3/1--4/5

an overide 300 £100 lay goes 20/1--300/1

cistern set up perfectly for overiders.

*£2 in most boxes till you click..they then morph into 10p--60p matches.

x-matching BOT has been souped up to triple max the last few days imv...

makes the pictures seem slower...

liquidity vanishes before your very eyes...

can't understand the logic of it but there you go.

Skimming to an art form
Make the early las vegas casino bosses look second rate

money in most boxes wen i click..min £2

that then turns into 20 matched of 3p--20p

how can that be?

must admit i'm beginning to think RTV pics have been slowed down...

prices vanishing in front of my very eyes from miles out...

1.01 on the pink side way too early...

x-matching BOT clearly set to triple max but this is just hideous now...

i'll give it till Monday and if it doesn't improve then it's goodbye from him and it's goodbye from me.

coz i ain't wasting my time on this nonsense any longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4C33thTEE

you gotta beathebot,gotta beathebot..

i was beating the BOT until Tuesday Mr.Hunt...

since then it has been impossible.

not wasting my time any longer...

if it doesn't change come Monday i'll be gone...

i'd rather feed the ducks than play on these markets.

ive also noticed its been way harder this week..not that it wasnt anyways.

it changed on Wednesday Mr.Hunt...

BOT was set to MAX....

hoiked up to TRIPLE MAX wednesday morning.

i said on mon its been ramped up..

well it better get ramped back down or you won't be hearing from me much longer.

the bots been fired up today turbo

as Mr.Hunt says...

been like that all last week ballyregan...

i noticed it from Wednesday but if Mr.Hunt noticed it on Monday then Monday it probably was...

needs reversing or the mass exodus is ON.

I think the saturday pics are slowed down a few tenths
Just a feeling

it's not just been today jcm...

Glad I found this thread, as I thought it was my internet / pics as I seemed way behind normal on RTV this last few days especially. So this will kill off in running from home?

I agree HH, but without the bot the pics on a saturday have, imo, been slightly slower in recent weeks
The bot has been ramped up as you say and combine these factors together and its impossible.
In short, terrible in the week but impossible on a saturday

I haven't got the timings but saturday is harder to play. Just an opinion
Maybe all the people who work and then play i/r at weekends have made it seem tougher bringing their skills to the table.

well i certainly agree with the vast majority of that jcm...

So this will kill off in running from home?

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ramping up the BOT means less liquidity for home in runners...

so if they keep it at the level it is just now then it will kill off in running sooner rather than later yes...

well i'm not hanging around much longer put it that way...

i'd have had more fun these last few days if i'd stuck my head down Jimmy 5 Belly's lavatory.

there is no liquidity..robert is the liquidity..its a finely tuned system thats allowing prices to be decimated either by backing or laying to your overide..2 bob ev price and the remaining at your overide...a cistern designed to maximise prophets if it goes wrong...the tide is eroding the cliffs gradually...its the final countdown...we're leaving together...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

as i said Mr.Hunt...

i'll give it till MOnday...

if there's no change it's the Two Ronnies time i'm afraid to say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9L-0x92vXk

nowt to do with anything...

just like the song and i need cheering up tbh.

you can have 1000 anything changes for the better...why would it?

steos ffs?  more utter fraud

steps ffs?  more utter fraud

the Betfair BOT has been triple-maxed many times before Mr.Hunt...

they've then cut it back to single-max a few days later...

no idea what the reasoning is but that has happened many times before...

like i say i will give them till Monday and see how it pans out...

but i ain't sitting here all day playing for 5p per race...

if Paddy Power Betfair want the end of in running they are going about it the best way possible...

coz i ain't the only person who struggles badly when the triple-max button is pressed...

c'mon Mr.Hunt...

nobody watches a Steps video without it putting a smile on their face...

U just gonna give it til Monday, yeah?

yeah baby.

So the assumption is that this bot gets turned up and down based on whether a person wins or not?
I think there’s an awful lot of confirmation bias going on here.

The lower liquidity likely explains the general difficulty, but nobody has convinced me yet that ‘the bot’ is to blame; I see it simply as transferring other people’s actions.
The market matured, if somebody can work out what you do in a simple rule, then you are finished no two ways about it.
People either stopped playing the egregiously delayed courses or they caught up enough not to get fleeced as easily.

yeah, the bot is just the messenger

It is no coincidence those who had a big advantage are now struggling as the advantage they once had has now diminished and the playing field is more level.
Rather than blame themselves it is the bots fault. I do not include those who have always played at home off live video with no advantage in this case.

Still plenty to be had imo

I've been laying i/r since the 1st lockdown started, and it was definitely easier to get matched and play a few months back

More people hhave access to faster pics/drones now

Didn't they have them a few months back?
Where can I get drone pics?
They are a closed shop aint they?

The pic delay on RTV is 0.6 in UK
and 0.8 in Ireland?
That right?

Aye about that

They did cuckoo but no doubt more have them now. I aint saying it isnt hard just now btw or liquidity cdnt be better or the bot isnt ramped up,
agree with it all. All the game is finish is shyte though. It has just got harder and those who will feel it most is those who always had a big advantage
which isnt there for them now. We have had these threads every year since about 2006.

If the forum is still here in 5 years so will these type threads

Yep JD

I was advised not to partake in I/R by a fellow forumite because this era was especially tough.
I thought nah, I know it all, lockdown is a great time to do this with no-one at the track and box players at home.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing in my case especially

The pic delay on RTV is 0.6 in UK

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no idea if that is the case or not...

but that means we are 1.8 secs behind raw feed / 0 sec in running delay lovely human beings / 0 sec in running delay Betfair BOT...

in running liquidity at desperate levels (well done james if you still win plenty btw)...

i'm sorry but i can't compete at these liquidity levels and at a 1.8 sec (at best) disadvantage.

those are the facts AS I SEE THEM...

but clearly others have a different perspective on it.

didn't have you down as a steps fan hibby..

good to listen to when you've had a james hunt of a day and you are on the verge of throwing the towel in coz you can't compete anymore ballyregan...

i'm not bothered anyway tbh...

had enough of the game if the truth be known.

no prob playing over 3f out...

i played this song to myself last night also ballyregan...

probably more appropriate tbh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyi0ZfuIIvo

nostalgias great to cheer you up I can understand the sadness you suffer it appears betfair are allowed to be rancid through greed and sadly no independant organisation never seems to look into it ever it is frustrating as the customer could have have a fairer enjoyable experience if someone looked into it properly.

from steps to emo ish that is quite a jump....

is the song connected to the bots and inrunning or has someone broke your heart or are you having a little regret over something that occurred a long time ago

i've no problem with it tbh ballyregan...

i've had a good and enjoyable 15 years or so on here...

it's just come to a natural end for folk like me...

clearly others are still good enough to do well on here and i wish i was as good as they were but i'm not...

as i've said many times on here before it lasted a lot longer than i thought it would and i don't mind admitting that.

but clearly in the last week things are verging on the 'impossible' for me so no point crying about it...

i'll survive.

nowt to do with a lassie ballyregan...

just had a good think about things last night and i used some musical interludes to help me along the way.

15 years is a long time to do anything I guess if you genuinely think it is over emotions will pop up natural reaction

i was in a job previously for 15 years and it came to a natural end ballyregan...

i think you can do the same thing for too long tbh...

ends up becoming mundane and stale...

Betfair is probably doing me a favour if truth be told.

heard this song the other day he could sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WvVyk9DA6s

absolutely ballyregan...

this is probably my favourite from that lad...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOp0w4lIKO0

isnt there a tark pony/music forum?

sadly not rico