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By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 31 May 21 17:24
pre race? in running?
By:
Hayden
When: 31 May 21 18:09
My BOT just texted me and asked could you tone down the language please , we all have to eat.
By:
slickster
When: 31 May 21 18:39
Are people still betting here? Still accepting this? No thanks.
By:
Ramruma
When: 31 May 21 18:44
This is the same drivel we hear from the people who want lay guarantees from the books. It assumes only one punter.

In the real world, where there are lots of people trying to back the same horse at the same price, they cannot all be first in the queue. Most of them will not be first.
By:
onlooker
When: 31 May 21 18:49
Can never understand these Threads .

Been here 18 years - and very few complaints- in fact , often get matched at Bigger than I am asking for.

I can only assume that they are moistly 'one tick merchants' trying to eek out every last halfpenny out of the (possibly Trade) - and not wishing to risk a Farthing themselves.
By:
ProSniper
When: 31 May 21 18:56
It takes a skilled operator to beat the bots at their own game.
By:
Deplasterer
When: 31 May 21 19:00
In fairness to the OP, it does happen in sports betting but I personally haven't experienced in horse racing.
By:
onlooker
When: 31 May 21 19:04
Maybe that explains it, then - Deplasterer

I am almost exclusively a Horse Racing bettor.

Why does the OP - and other complainants - not post their grievances on the - General Betting - Forum, then.
By:
Ramruma
When: 31 May 21 19:05
Ironically, it would be more convincing if bot-authors made the same complaint, as they could presumably check the timestamps between prices being offered and taken.

It might also be possible to write a bot to test the OP's complaint. Write a bot that checks a price repeatedly and try to place a bet every (say) 100 goes. If the price only disappears when the bet is attempted but not during the no-bet price checks, then something fishy is afoot.
By:
snowynoon
When: 01 Jun 21 10:14
its pre race ,the same has been happening to me for about 6 months ,from every 10 attempts ,i get the "advertised" price about once id say ,it just disappears to be replaced by a much lower price as soon as i press the button .
By:
Ramruma
When: 01 Jun 21 11:07
Has the OP disappeared?
By:
Ramruma
When: 01 Jun 21 11:16
For some people, is there perhaps a mismatch between the stake asked for, and the stake set on the betting view options? A lot of people set £2 so they can see the overrounds, but that can be misleading if you are betting in hundreds or even in tenners.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 01 Jun 21 12:47
I have the same experience constantly - dogs and horses - anyone with a decent brain knows exactly what's going on, just nowhere else to go - it's criminal
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 01 Jun 21 13:44
ProSniper 31 May 21 17:56 
It takes a skilled operator to beat the bots at their own game.


correct..thats now the name of the game..beatthebot.
By:
irish wizard
When: 02 Jun 21 21:29
I was mainly expressing my anger at this practice that is clearly in place these days... it seems my opening post disappeared also .. Fkn C U NT S
By:
hulk23
When: 02 Jun 21 21:37
depends on which settings they've established on your a/c.  hence some agree with you, others haven't got a clue what you're on about.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 02 Jun 21 21:46
40 in the lay box...click to lay 390 and guess what you lay?
By:
hulk23
When: 02 Jun 21 21:47
an egg ?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 02 Jun 21 21:49
yes..in your case unfertilised.
By:
hulk23
When: 02 Jun 21 21:51
too easy, get in.
By:
irish wizard
When: 02 Jun 21 21:57
Well those who don't know or it hasnt happened to them yet are clearly unaware .. It happens more so when not much liquidity in market or new markets where not much activity has taken place .. The price could be there at 2.76 with 50 say available to back.... place bet 50 and no matched bet... 2.76 is now in lay side in the request box for 50 and best new available price to back is 2.72 for a couple ticks less ... Yes the monetary value is small on this example but its the practice of it that is just DISGUSTING. Its not a case of missing the price it is clear fkn margin rape by the bots
By:
hulk23
When: 02 Jun 21 22:01
if you get matched you'll find the market will instantly move against you ... and for whoever matched you Wink
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 02 Jun 21 22:04
Haha at OP Laugh
By:
blackbarn
When: 02 Jun 21 22:42
Irish Wizard - you don't need a bot to strike a bet at 2.76 and immediately try to lay it off at 2.72. I am staggered that you are surprised by this. What have you been doing for 15 years, apart from perhaps losing and getting crossWink.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 02 Jun 21 22:55
enticement  Mischief
By:
cobra sam
When: 03 Jun 21 11:25
pro-sniper you are so right,,i bet early morning and the bots are on overdrive at those hours,,,used to get angry but now i can generally guess whats gonna happen,,,so its like a battle,,patience and perserverance rquired
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 03 Jun 21 13:43
roberto tuned to perfection...tis all about %.
By:
DOUBLED
When: 03 Jun 21 13:54
I agree with Steve ...The bot strangling the life out of in running.
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 03 Jun 21 14:15
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds
Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Miquelon
40
£0.37
£14.43
Miquelon
44
£0.25
£10.75
Miquelon
50
£0.10
£4.90
Miquelon
55
£0.06
£3.24
Miquelon
65
£0.25
£16.00
Miquelon
70
£0.03
£2.07
Miquelon
75
£0.21
£15.54
Miquelon
80
£1.25
£98.75
Miquelon
95
£4.26
£400.44

10 in the lay box..click 95 and hey presto..Mischief
By:
dustybin
When: 03 Jun 21 15:27
Ive never used custom columns, but what does transaction log show when you click 95?
Does it so the snapshot of the market to the right for each fragmented odd matched?
If it does then that would show how little money was in at each price when you clicked wouldnt it?
By:
dustybin
When: 03 Jun 21 15:28
Look at the time of the click and the response time and see if there was actually still any money hanging around after the point you bet actually gets matched
Id say there wasnt
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 03 Jun 21 15:57
it matters not whats in the box..roberto detects an overide and thats what thou gets..
By:
dustybin
When: 03 Jun 21 16:01
but the transaction log would show the money thats still available to everyone else then
Unless you are implying they create a whole different market viewable for each user?
By:
dustybin
When: 03 Jun 21 16:03
I reckon that the time it takes for the bet to match (1.2s) you miss the 10s and no fooker wants to back the horse you want to lay for any reasonable money between 10s and 95 cos all the dummies went belly up ages ago and not everyone playing a tight game
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 03 Jun 21 16:06
dusty , sometimes my transaction log boxes are empty
By:
dustybin
When: 03 Jun 21 16:08
at the time of the bet matching?
Doesnt that imply the money been missed?
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 03 Jun 21 16:10
ahh , i didn't know that , thanks
By:
dustybin
When: 03 Jun 21 16:14
If I have what ppl are thinking correct...wouldnt it mean that bf would have to emulate a whole market snapshot for gruss to capture that was completely false for each individual user?
Im highly sceptical at such a crazy idea.
The simplest explanation is the time it takes to match the little money there was has been cancelled
By:
greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy
When: 03 Jun 21 16:15
reiteration...

it matters not whats in the box..roberto detects an overide and thats what thou gets..
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