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seaside
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Malta
Backed her last week she has got in the final and I expect her to put up a good performance on the night and bring home the bacon.
Her price has gone out because she is in the first half of the draw so you are now getting better price cash in
Good luck
Seaside
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Report shoodacoodadidnt May 20, 2021 1:29 PM BST
Is there a BF market?
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! May 20, 2021 1:36 PM BST
Been told SAN MARINO

NAILED ON

42=1

Silly
Report greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy May 20, 2021 1:48 PM BST
Cheers seaside , had £400 at 4/5 & a £20 f/c with zanzibar and a £10 tri cast with burma.

gl.
Report tony6499 May 20, 2021 2:22 PM BST
One of the Icelandic group has Covid so they are going to show their rehearsal clip instead, might cost them
Report doantwin2easy May 20, 2021 2:48 PM BST
yep the UK will never win again. we could out up Dua Lipa, with only oak leaves to cover her essentials, and she'd still get stuffed out of sight.

nobody likes us and we don't care.
Report General Midwinter May 20, 2021 3:21 PM BST
'Nul points' is a badge of honor
Report brassneck May 20, 2021 4:34 PM BST
El DIABLO CYPRUS .Chargeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
"who would have believed it??????????????????????????????????"ShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked
Report FatPunt May 20, 2021 4:36 PM BST
Italy.
Report Manoleeds May 20, 2021 5:50 PM BST

May 20, 2021 -- 7:29AM, shoodacoodadidnt wrote:


Is there a BF market?


Sure is https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/special-bets/eurovision-2021-bettin...

Report LoyalHoncho May 20, 2021 7:06 PM BST
Let's see.  these bampots have moved on from promoting a drag queen with a black beard.  This year even "lgbt's" and "black lives matter" tw ats won't get a look in.  It be deftly shovelled towards any fruitcake who claims to be "non-binary", likes to be called "they" and thinks Carey Mulligan is God's gift to the world.
Report glentoby May 20, 2021 7:22 PM BST
Only ever had two bets in this and both won,last was £22K Norway @ 11/10 on behalf of my OH and Nogher.In.Norway.

Got to be ew either Israel or Palestine if the are in it?

Are they,if so Dutch and rev fcast...........and throw in Holland in the combi for Dutch?

Are they worth backing iyo and the prices,I refuse to look!!!?
Report strontium May 20, 2021 8:07 PM BST
Those betting on the UK to come last may be done by the embarrassing German entry. But last but one looks nailed on.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 20, 2021 9:26 PM BST
glentobyjugmugs is doing the security for this event..

he will be standing outside with his captain mainwaring uniform on holding a paper mache ak47.
Report glentoby May 20, 2021 9:42 PM BST
And YOU will still be looking for attention at 60 years old...............ROFL!!!

All over the Forum and 5,000 laughing their nuts off including tour previous accolytes!!!CryLaughWink
Report glentoby May 20, 2021 9:43 PM BST
Tour being intended btw................touring the Forum YSDC................loser.Wink
Report hulk23 May 20, 2021 9:58 PM BST
any more 1.01 Suisse to qualify available ? CoolLaughCool
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 May 20, 2021 10:14 PM BST
Much prefer watching the Eurovision Thong Contest


#tightbuns
Report hulk23 May 20, 2021 10:27 PM BST
any more 1.01 Suisse to qualify available ?

Rico ... chalk it.

Report brassneck May 21, 2021 1:16 AM BST
Bad Romance (lady gaga) and El diablo (cyprus) youtube have connected the two songs .so best drop the cyprus price.Wink
Report seaside May 22, 2021 3:08 PM BST
Had a saver on France
Report FatPunt May 22, 2021 4:42 PM BST
Italy.
Report pablo-fanque May 22, 2021 4:51 PM BST
does anyone know where i can get 4/5 for malta to win ?
Report hulk23 May 22, 2021 5:12 PM BST
Ukraine Top 15 Finnish, 1.04.  How far Cool
Report duffy May 22, 2021 5:20 PM BST
France for me
Report tanglefoot May 22, 2021 5:27 PM BST
Iceland,max bet top 5
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 22, 2021 8:51 PM BST
Good Luck, Malta got a very good reception from the audience.
Report barstool May 22, 2021 8:53 PM BST
Christ, we have a Pikey singing for us.
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 22, 2021 8:58 PM BST
Chill out Barstool, some good crooners from the travelling community, besides Malta pish this despite the

burden of Seasides money. HappyWink
Report doantwin2easy May 22, 2021 9:03 PM BST
icelandLove
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 9:03 PM BST
tyson fury is good at singing american pie
Report strontium May 22, 2021 9:12 PM BST
Goodness, Germany really don't want to win.
Report doantwin2easy May 22, 2021 9:44 PM BST
took his glasses off and couldn't believe where he was.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 9:50 PM BST
supposedly 4.5 mill traded on a load of clowns singing that non has heard of..

wel aye.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 9:58 PM BST
all the talent in a country like the uk and all they can muster is someone priced at 800 Crazy
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 9:59 PM BST
it is all political everyone hates us i think if we sent beyonce to sing one we would probably end up last
Report barstool May 22, 2021 10:02 PM BST
That bloke from San Marino had my old scool pants on.
Report barstool May 22, 2021 10:02 PM BST
school
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 10:05 PM BST
beyonce is from jamaica innit.
Report doantwin2easy May 22, 2021 10:08 PM BST
1. Iceland
2. Malta
3. France
4. Israel
5. Italy

End of threat.
Report strontium May 22, 2021 10:12 PM BST
Beyonce would do better for us than the pub singer in the bad jacket we sent this year.
Report swiftynifty May 22, 2021 10:14 PM BST
Rico, to be fair Adele could represent us and we'd still come last. Time to throw our toys out of the pram and never go back.
Report strontium May 22, 2021 10:15 PM BST
Thing is swifty, that just isn't true.
Report flukes May 22, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps
Rico-Dangleflaps 20 May 21 20:26 Joined: 07 Sep 18 | Topic/replies: 3,644 | Blogger: Rico-Dangleflaps's blog
glentobyjugmugs is doing the security for this event..

he will be standing outside with his captain mainwaring uniform on holding a paper mache ak47
Report flukes May 22, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps
Rico-Dangleflaps 20 May 21 20:26 Joined: 07 Sep 18 | Topic/replies: 3,644 | Blogger: Rico-Dangleflaps's blog
glentobyjugmugs is doing the security for this event..

he will be standing outside with his captain mainwaring uniform on holding a paper mache ak47


Laugh
Report barstool May 22, 2021 10:23 PM BST
It goes down well with a few Mr Boddingtons.

No harm done having a laugh at our efforts every year.

Truth be told is that we have not had a decent entry for yonkers.
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 22, 2021 10:30 PM BST
42p cash out ..... Malta now 5.5. !!!   Too much pressure. !!
Report GLASGOWCALLING May 22, 2021 10:31 PM BST
.... Gonna let it ride pheck it. !!
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 10:32 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps • May 22, 2021 10:05 PM BST
beyonce is from jamaica innit.
celine dion won for switzerland and she is canadian you can fly them in from different countries just for this rico
Report strontium May 22, 2021 10:36 PM BST
Yep. Just has to be entered by a member country.
Report brians May 22, 2021 10:47 PM BST
The Irony is we pay for this “ chance to pish on uk evening “ as one of the five major contributors.
It is our usual approach, pay all,  get nowt.
Report strontium May 22, 2021 10:50 PM BST
Produces a massive amount of air time for the BBC. Have been hours of Eurovision programs on BBC4 and Radio 2 all week. They probably think it's worth the money.
Report ItsMeSwaddle May 22, 2021 10:58 PM BST
COME ON NOW, WHO HAS THE FAST PICS, WATCHING THE PRICES LAUGHING
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 11:01 PM BST
will uk get 0 points from the jury votes
Report Tiger Tiger May 22, 2021 11:03 PM BST
Switzerland Mischief
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 11:05 PM BST
amanda lay off the botox love you will end up like donatella versace
Report Alices May 22, 2021 11:13 PM BST
Next year the UK entry will go under the name of Millwall.
Nobody likes us and we dont care
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 11:15 PM BST
uk is like the boss at the xmas do i wish they would leave then the party starts
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 11:33 PM BST
why are italy 1.6?
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 11:34 PM BST
these votes are more important uk o points brutal
Report strontium May 22, 2021 11:35 PM BST
Well played Shlotter.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 11:46 PM BST
bbc1 freeview and miles behind..Laugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 11:47 PM BST
seaside give it up ydc..fckin hopeless.
Report strontium May 22, 2021 11:49 PM BST
0 points, well deserved.
Report barstool May 22, 2021 11:51 PM BST
Silver bumper for the caravan will have to be put on hold.
Report strontium May 22, 2021 11:51 PM BST
:D
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 22, 2021 11:53 PM BST
wasnt really paying much attention but why was the betting so short for italy after the country vote when they were well behind some of the others?
Report ballyregan May 22, 2021 11:55 PM BST
all these people liking this song in the audeience but they dont have a clue what he is saying, he could be slating them for all they know
Report strontium May 22, 2021 11:55 PM BST
Because that was the jury vote and they prefer the "proper" songs. The public vote for the popular songs was still to come.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 23, 2021 12:06 AM BST
yes i gathered that..but why were italy 1.6?
Report differentdrum May 23, 2021 12:08 AM BST
Takes some doing coming bottom of that pile of garbage. We can only hope that he doesn't try to milk the achievement.
Report Mat22 May 23, 2021 12:10 AM BST
Welcome to Brexit! Laugh
Report strontium May 23, 2021 12:13 AM BST
Just a **** song.
Report hulk23 May 23, 2021 12:16 AM BST
Ukraine Top 15 Finnish, 1.04.  How far

Rico ...... chalk another up one for the Hulk.  Good lad LaughLaugh
Report Storm Alert May 23, 2021 9:05 AM BST
seaside 20 May 21 I cannot understand why Italy is fav it's a terrible song.

Agree it is a terrible song. However they performed well on stage and the pre comp 30 million streams was a big hint and why they were bookie favs.
Report diddlydee1 May 23, 2021 10:10 AM BST
could we rig it for next year!!....seems the biggest votes are from the general public....now if we were to all vote on the same song and also get others we know to vote on it as well, it could be bingo!...the inner won with just over 500 votes....now if we had 540 votes from the general public for the UK, which were at 300-1 we could have it right off!!...of course i might be talking utter shyte as i was on my third can of Red Stripe when they got round to the scores!
Report seaside May 23, 2021 12:32 PM BST
I will never watch the Euro song contest again never mind betting on it.

What a fcuking joke.
Report barstool May 23, 2021 1:12 PM BST
Once I saw her big fat thighs I knew she was done for.

Is that what tempted you in?Love
Report greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy May 23, 2021 1:34 PM BST
greece and cyprus giving each other 12 points was a strange coincidence..

and they both had a cat singing.
Report smirnoff2therescue May 23, 2021 1:45 PM BST
UK was 4/7 to give Lithuania 12pts - Greece/Cyprus and Russia/Moldova always give each other 12 past few years and there was deffo insider trading going on re Italys price -they were over 100 pts behind on jury vote and yet price quickly went into freefall ShockedShockedLaughLaugh

Its more bent every year and mekks horseracing look clean by comparison

P.S the jury votes had been decided on Friday evening in a full dress rehearsal for last nights events so clearly someone had a good inkling on what was going to transpire
Report wallis May 23, 2021 3:26 PM BST
Anyone that studies Eurovision knew that France and the Swiss needed a 100 point lead to hold off the Italian Televote.

They were 1.6 and it wasnt a suprise they went on to win it. France was the only possible winner after the Jury vote was in.
Report pablo-fanque May 23, 2021 3:38 PM BST
wallis, how or where did people see the tele vote before the televote scores were announced ?
Report wallis May 23, 2021 3:46 PM BST
It wasnt seen but historically Italy get a lot in the televote section and the song itself was way ahead on stats showing number of views (youtube etc) , spotify , twitter stats .   

France and Switzerland had great jury friendly songs but werent going to "grab" the first time viewers and the age group of people who would televote.

The view of eurovision punters was that Italy was always going to clean up a massive amount of televotes and it was a case of if they were close enough to a Swiss/France at the end of the jury section they were going to win it.

Having said that France almost pulled it off.   If Italy had been 10 or 20 points closer at the end of the Jury vote they would have been 1.1 going into the televote.
Report pablo-fanque May 23, 2021 3:50 PM BST
thanks wallis
Report hunt lunt and cunningham May 23, 2021 4:01 PM BST
It may be political but uk were the original 'bad boys' . When Abbas Waterloo won in 1974 , since been voted best ever Eurovision song , the Uk gave it nil points !!!! they were hoping olivia newton john would win.
Never has , you reap what you sow , more deserving.....
Report wallis May 23, 2021 4:07 PM BST
I never understand why the UK moan about it. They put in rubbish year after year , then moan when they get 0 points. I think five countries last night got 0 Televotes so its not a case of the UK being picked on by the whole of Europe as they like to make out.
Report barstool May 23, 2021 4:10 PM BST
How did the lass from Malta get those boots on?
Report sludge May 23, 2021 4:57 PM BST
You must have cleaned up wallis. I will await your comments PRIOR to next years contest.
Report hulk23 May 23, 2021 7:10 PM BST
I never understand why the UK moan about it. They put in rubbish year after year

clueless.  UK could enter Adele singing Hello - 2.8 billion views on youtube - she's still coming last. nobody votes for the UK, what part of 'they don't like us' are you struggling with ?
Report strontium May 23, 2021 7:11 PM BST
Hunt, it was a completely different voting system in 1974. Only 10 individuals from each contry got to vote, and they each gave 1 point to their favourite song - that was it (no 12/10/8/7/... etc. points). 1974 was probably the strongest contest ever - Waterloo didn't win by that much over strong opposition from Italy, the Netherlands and the UK.

Wallis - spot on. The UK's song was rubbish (one of the weakest we've ever put in), and poorly sung. It got what it deserved. Nevertheless, the way the low-scoring televotes were announced was brutal, and I hope that changes in future. In the past I think they just put up the scores for the 10 lowest scoring countries without making a fuss about it.
Report strontium May 23, 2021 7:13 PM BST
Hulk - you do know that music professionals make up half the voting? If the UK entered Adele and she sang one of her better songs, it would be highly competitive. Personally, I'd ask Dua Lipa to do it for the UK.
Report hulk23 May 23, 2021 7:17 PM BST
lol ... the "music professionals" from Greece that gave Cyprus 12 points, and the "music professionals" from Cyprus that gave Greece 12 points ... LaughLaugh back in your box kid
Report hulk23 May 23, 2021 7:21 PM BST
the "music professionals" that gave KEiiNO - Spirit In The Sky 2019 next to nothing, and then we sat back & watched the public giving them the competition by a country mile ?  those "professionals" ?
Report hulk23 May 23, 2021 7:27 PM BST
Amanda Holden head of the UK "music professionals".  wtf Laugh
Report hunt lunt and cunningham May 23, 2021 8:05 PM BST
Strontium
I remember the 1974 competition and I know the voting system then...the fact is not 1 UK judge gave Abba A SINGLE POINT .
Abbas song was so far the best that year which makes the UK judging very suspect especially the support that Olivia Newton John had.
Report strontium May 23, 2021 9:43 PM BST
Hulk, if you want to believe it's all some campaign against the UK, that's up to you. Nobody seemed to like Austria much until they put up an eye/ear-catching song and won in 2014. Nobody liked Portugal at all until they entered a quality song, well sung, and won in 2017. It may suit the UK to enter rubbish and say "we don't win because nobody likes us". But we could try taking the competition seriously for a bit and seeing what happens.

Hunt - Waterloo got 24 out of 160 possible points (or, 15% if you prefer), so it wasn't just the UK jury that didn't immediately warm to Abba. 85% of the voting jurors across the continent didn't think it was the best song.
Report smirnoff2therescue May 23, 2021 10:45 PM BST
strontium i think your memory might be playing tricks on you - back then there were 17 entries in the competition but only ten member jury's allowed to vote with only ten points per jury to play with and a maximum of 5 points being allotted to their winning song so therefore a max of 60 pts to play for so in the circumstances Abba with a score of 24 did exceptionally well - Italy finished 2nd on 18pts and so in reality Abba pished it CoolCoolLaughLaugh
Report wallis May 24, 2021 12:11 AM BST
Sludge I never said anything about winning money , I was just answering the question of why they were 1.6.

Next year I will remember to send you my thoughts before the contest so as not to suffer one of your clever remarks rather than post them on other forums discussing Eurovision rather than Betfairs Horse Racing.

Strontium , I agree with everything you said and especially the way the "null points" was announced.  You could see the presenters squirming and the cameras in the faces of those performers getting humiliated wasnt good tv.
Report swiftynifty May 24, 2021 12:34 AM BST
can someone briefly explain the viewer votes/points/weighting etc? e.g if there were 1000 viewer points available and country weighting was at play how did that equate to Opts for several countries, surely they must have got some? Anyway, it's total rubbish and the voting rubbish just capped it off.
Report wallis May 24, 2021 1:06 PM BST
Countries only give points to 10 acts  (12, 10 , 8 , 7 , 6 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 2 , 1)

With 26 competing and around 5 nations almost certainly getting points from every jury or televote there is really only about 5 countries from the remaining 21 that will get anything else.

If you look at the Televotes this year Italy got votes from every country , so did France and Ukraine.  Finland got votes from all but one (Georgia) and the  Swiss from all but 3 countries.   So five of every 10 votes per country were taken up by those alone.   That only left 5 possible scores for everyone else.  With Iceland and Ukraine scoring with 30 of the 39 countries there was very little left to fight over for everyone else.

So if you had a poor / uninteresting song you were really going to struggle this year to get points from the viewers (televote) and also the Juries that look at presentation , vocal talent (so the more difficult to sing the better) etc...
Report swiftynifty May 24, 2021 1:24 PM BST
I was talking specifically about the televotes not the jury.
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