What are these women up to?

we are locked down should never have been allowed to escalate to the mayhem that ensued.

RIP Sarah.

then what some are saying is that policing should now be by consent ?



and that its ok for some to break the law , bit flawed tbh

Ironically they are protesting against unknownkillers lurking in the dark coming together during a pandemic to unknowingly be potentialy unknownkillers to other like minded people.

brigust1,it was never a "simply a vigil by young women"It was an organised potential riot,it was never designed by organisers as such.Lock them up.

Wrong SQ. It was planned as a vigil. The authorities should have supported them and ensured it was carried out properly. They didn't, they tried to ban. And, unlike you, they are on the TV apologising for being heavy handed. Where does your stance sit amongst that? There are more people playing sports today than attended the vigil.

When I first heard of the vigil for Sarah...I was looking forward to attending..
a day later, I decided not to attend, as have many of her friends...

my reason for not attending is this: my friend’s tragic death has been hijacked.

It is not a tribute to her...

this from a friend of the woman the vigil was meant to be about , hijacked by ACAB likely

sky wont show you the footage of the hate chants or the violence towards police tho doesnt suit the narrative sadly

Why should there be Police there with dogs ffs? This was hijacked by the Police if you ask me.

Organisers of a vigil planned for Sarah Everard in south London are still hopeful it can take place, despite effectively losing a High Court challenge against a ban on the event.

But the Metropolitan Police urged people to find a "lawful and safer way" to express views on women's safety.

Earlier, a High Court judge refused to say the event would be permitted under coronavirus regulations.

Organisers Reclaim These Streets said discussions with police would continue.

Saturday's event was planned after the disappearance of Ms Everard, 33, who was last seen alive on 3 March when she was walking home along a main road in Clapham, prompted public debate about women's safety.

On Friday, serving Met Police officer Wayne Couzens, 48, was charged with the kidnap and murder of Ms Everard.

As well as the vigil on Clapham Common, sister events have been planned for other cities and towns including Cambridge, Cardiff, Leeds, St Andrews and Liverpool.

Labour's shadow domestic violence minister, Jess Phillips, said the force had "got it wrong at every single turn".

Get real ;reclaim the streets are a bunch of anti -capitalist anarchists who have hi jacked the death of Sara to further their own ends.Lock up the lot of them.

lock them up for what ?

police were instructed to attend and uphold the law of the land


if gethering was attended by those respecting vigil which most did it would have passed without any agro

unfortunately a minority were intent on nothing but thier hate filled agendas and shame on them for using such a sacred moment to do so

Breaking the law GAZO.brigust1 iam not wrong it was marketed as such but in practice was never to be.Lock the culprits up

It was never to be because the Police thought they could bully a small group of women. The hate filled women were protesting their right to hold a vigil. I don't expect bigots to understand that but everybody who should stand up and say it was wrong, have. Because it was wrong. Everyone has rights. This is not a Police or a bigoted males state.

Don't see plod steaming in when there's been a travellers funeral recently.

One of the protesters appeared to have a load of Shyte smeared over her top ,

The usual rent a mob  tree huggers who are present at Climate change protests will have been in attendance .

theres a video out there on all platforms of women singing/chanting/ baiting the police we hate the police balh,blah,not shown on sky obviously,south london avocado on toast bunch,didnt see many of them on streets defending the rights of the girl murdered in hull
apparently the reason for the up roar according to one of the reclaim the streets women interviewed on sky,
was because she was one of them,and she didnt mean female but middle class london female who did same job as her

post the video

He only tells us where the video isn't shown

your very missinformed brigust , and to call anyone a bigot for dissagreeing with you is bigoted in itself ironically

footage shows male and female protestors in mildly violent scuffles with police what would you have the police do

scenes showing a few of crowd sing fk the police at a sacred vigil ffs , your defending that

The world is going to sh1t ! Load of b0llocks making out that every man is a threat to woman ! This was just a psychopath ! 1 c .nt in a million ! nothing to do or compare with 99.99 % of men !!

Britain is now a degenerate liberal democracy.
1. The "vigil" contravened the Covid regulations, 2. The organisers cancelled the vigil. 3. People were told NOT to attend. The vigil was taken over by a bunch of Lebanese, man hating womens rights activists & the usual rentamob a la Stinktion Rebellion. I EXPECT THE POLICE TO UPHOLD THE LAW BY ANY LEGAL MEANS! Breaking the law is not up for debate otherwise this heinous crime couls also be up for debate. You just cannot choose which laws you feel like keeping or breaking. I, myself when in London am ALWAYS alert to threats. When using a subway DAY OR NIGHT I have my keys spread between my fingers. This is just like BLM- a worthy cause taken over by vested interests. From reading the papers & watching the media one would think there is a pandemic of men attacking women. And then they go on blaming pornography as well. How many men watch pornography & DON'T attack women. Like everything else in the country it's gone too far. As for a 6pm curfew...............................

Why are these fkcrs trying to surround Scotland Yard as I type?

hound one of the sister hood out,just like tory mp,s who now want a conversation hounded mrs may out and replaced her with mysogonist johnson

The police acted yesterday because the covid rules were blatantly being broken. What's the problem?

How many gonna turn up in hospital with covid expecting to be looked after be some poor nurse who has 5 12hr shifts, selfish barstewards.

You took the words out of my mouth JJ. Give it a month and the NHS will suffer again.

https://twitter.com/almaraabgarian/status/1370810020963704834

for brig or anyone needing a little balance is this showing respect for the deceased or her family ?

even the fire brigade union are out condeming police even before the facts have emerged , madness when emergency services are heading to war over a minority of idiots who are desperate to be tomorrows cover of the mail

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Metropolitan Police -- what were they thinking? Were they thinking?

This was never going to be the poll tax riots. [b]It was a small number of middle class women, socially-distanced[/b] and wearing masks, in the open air where just last week Sir Patrick Vallance said there was no evidence of Covid spikes.



Really? If you're kneeling next to each other that's not socially-distanced. Middle class women? Really??

where just last week Sir Patrick Vallance said there was no evidence of Covid spikes.


I wonder what he's saying this week?

Good to see forum members so concerned about the need to abide by Covid regulations.

Some of you should look at the crowds down Oxford street not socially distancing or even wearing masks.

This was a statement of intent by the Police because they have been walked all over by the BLM mobs. Everyone in power knows they were wrong. Even the Met Police know they were wrong.
It is no good Hello looking at the problem afterwards. This was caused by the Police. The women protesting were protesting a bad decision made by the Police. You are so wrong in every way it looks like a forum of bigots when I am sure it isn't.

This was a simple task for the Police to allow to happen ffs. They went in with dogs and an intent to arrest after they hade decided not to allow a simple vigil. It makes them look like bigots and how can they claim they are not?

ACAB signs in crowd , what more do you need to realise event was hi jacked by a seperate agenda

like every other event / demo

the folk who ruined the vigil and tarnished the memories  for the family/friends are scum

I can't speak for everyone sparrow but I abide by the regulations. What really puzzles me is how Ramruma knows the difference between a middle class woman and a working class woman.


Hundreds breaking the rules as I watch Parliament Square at this very moment....in breach of regulations. If it kicks off again I hope the police go in heavy handed.


Plenty placards being held saying the police are filth or worse.


Welcome to London.

When I first heard of the vigil for Sarah...I was looking forward to attending..
a day later, I decided not to attend, as have many of her friends...

my reason for not attending is this: my friend’s tragic death has been hijacked.

It is not a tribute to her...



this is a friend of the deceased brigust , is she bigoted ?

You obviously mean the Police and their dogs? This event attracted the wrong people BECAUSE the Police went in heavy handed and tried to BAN it. You bypassed the start Hello. You cannot do that. The Police should have known that by banning it the wrong element would get involved. It must have been as obvious as the noses on their faces. Ffs they must be completely stupid or thy did it deliberately.

You keep missing the point Hello. Some may have withdrawn because a wrong element got involved but even so do you think there would have been trouble if the Police and dogs hadn't turned up. Of course there wouldn't have been any trouble. The Police lit the fire then fanned the flames.

How can the police be wrong enforcing the law? This is what sums up this country today! One cannot have more than a few people at a funeral yet hundreds of scum should be allowed to ignore the law & all responsibility!

The main problem was that a good part of the crowd had a different agenda.

working class women takes corn dog and onion sarnires,middle class woman take avocado on toast or sushi
its not fooking rocket science

Some people just don't want to see. This was a small vigil by a small group of woman showing respect and solitude. The brainless Police have turned it into an issue and are now backtracking all over the place. They were wrong from the very start. None of this should have happened but the blind on here don't want to see that.

When the police were breaking up gatherings last year they came under tremendous criticism by many on this forum but now there appears to be a change of view or is it because of the type of gathering they seek to break up?

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You keep missing the point Hello. Some may have withdrawn because a wrong element got involved but even so do you think there would have been trouble if the Police and dogs hadn't turned up. Of course there wouldn't have been any trouble. The Police lit the fire then fanned the flames.


You cannot be serious?

Some may have withdrawn because a wrong element got involved



So the police standby whilst missiles pour on to them and do nothing? You couldn't make it up.

Told not to do it as convened Covid regulations. Therefore illegal. Therefore those who participated are criminals. What other criminals do you suggest the police do not act against.

would be nice if the police acted against all criminals

It would be nicer if we had less criminals.

The problem goes back to last year's illegal BLM marches where for whatever reason the force turned into a bunch of fannys what with getting down onto one knee etc to ingratiate themselves with the mob .If they'd have upheld the law then the current problem might not have occurred. Cressida Dick should have resigned months ago for kow towing to the mob however the past does not excuse the present and the current lot of troublemakers should be firmly dealt with. The Met needs a hardliner at the top pronto.

But you ignore other gatherings the police broke up which were complained about as a breach of human rights by the usual suspects on here.

They'll find someone in the force high enough up (but nowhere near as high up as Dick) to carry the can

Some of you guys on here who blame the women are dinosaurs and we all know what happened to the dinosaurs don't we? This should never have happened and the only people to blame are the Police. This does not mean all meetings are Ok. Of course it doesn't. But this was a massive error of judgement by the Met. And it isn't the first time.

Plod must be delighted that the cap doffers are trying to deflect away from the fact that one of their own has murdered a young girl ...

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Plod must be delighted that the cap doffers are trying to deflect away from the fact that one of their own has murdered a young girl ...


I would retract that shady.

Don't forget Cressida Dick was gold stick and therefore in charge when the police killed Jean Charles Menezes.

The police were doing what we pay them for !!!! Upholding the law ! those woman shouting shame on you ! well fcuk them ! they are the disgrace !

Another fascinating topic from little stewartyb - the forum fantasist, proven liar, welch and self confessed Monkey Spunker.

as every woman in country jumps on men should have a conversation bandwagon,latest strapline slogan,here,s the last 7 days in uk 2021 social media

monday
shut up your not allowed an opinion on race if your white

thursday
your not allowed an opinion on violence against women if your a man,

sun

if you wernt there last night stay silent,tv pics dont show what went on,

some conversation,think i,ll give it a miss, thanks

And nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
The needle returns to the start of the song
And we all sing along like before

And nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all
They'll burn down the synagogues at six o'clock
And we'll all go along like before
And we'll all be lonely tonight and lonely tomorrow.

no one sane would dissagree women need more protection from deviants , its obvious and starts with sentencing tbh

i just dont get how abuse towards the police is seen as ok by many , when the argument centres around abuse

Media still showing no footage showing abuse directed towards officers , strange eh

young men and young women have normalised porn since the internet,things aint getting any better
its only 2 years ago since we were supporting men because they were getting crucified by women for making up alleged rapes/sex attacks.

the only people not listening to any of this are the wacko,s/nutjobs and deviants
as i said the other day suspect in thiscase was an expert in security,surveilance,but 2 days after been talked to for flashing he snatchecd someone in full view of cctv,no ones  stopping him or talking him round

When I first heard of the vigil for my friend Sarah Everard, I was looking forward to attending. But I won’t be -- it’s not a tribute to her anymore. Her death has been hijacked by an agenda. I don’t think Sarah would have wanted this,I also wish to publicly praise the police conducting this investigation. They have done their job brilliantly, and although sadly it is too late for Sarah, I am grateful they are finding us some of the answers that we so desperately need. I am sure they are equally stunned and appalled that this awful crime seems to have been perpetrated by one of their own.

As for us, her friends? Let us grieve for our loved one, brutally taken in such an awful way. The public reaction to her death has been overwhelming, and for the most part very touching. But be assured, the misuse of it by those with an ‘agenda’ is not a comfort to us.




Helena Edwards (friend of deceased )

it would appear that every man in the world is responsible for what any other man does nowadays.

when did they bring this one in ?   

i'm here minding my own business and some Man Utd footballer is on the phone telling me to up my game or I'm not getting out after dark.

Apart from covid rules laws being knowingly broken, this actually was a hate crime taking place by some organised criminal gangs .

Never was going to be a vigil.

if you go for a mortgage, do you get knocked back because you're a man and "we've all seen what your type have been up to lately" ?

What type are you referring to hulk23?

man.

@posy re police taking a knee for BLM.

There is an important difference. Our police took a knee when foreign cops killed someone. A British copper (allegedly) murders a woman, and his fellow police officers suppress the vigil. Wait till police identify the Duchess of Cambridge caught on cctv paying her respects: they'll be straight down to Buck House to slap the cuffs on.

The police like to pick "soft" targets, if you go into any supermarket there are many people (mainly the shop staff) going around taking no notice of this stupid 2 metre rule as it's impossible to implement but I haven't heard of any Supermarket being raided by them. This vigil was no worse than any Supermarket.

They should be raiding the sites where all the dog stealers and drug dealers are operating from but they are too afraid.

Ramruma /big aitch

I entirely agree that the police shouldn't be **** footing around when it comes to drug dealers,dog stealers etc etc ;part of the problem is that they've become too concerned about not being seen to upset/focus on certain minority groups and in some respects seem to turn a blind eye or attempt to ingratiate themselves with these people.
Regarding the Clapham incident it certainly doesn't look good however don't be conned into thinking these are all nice,fragrant,middle class women.Some undoubtedly were however the majority of troublemakers were members of quasi political groups such as Reclaim the Streets.
I want a Met Commissioner who will come down hard on all groups breaking the law irrespective of race and gender,

Rather silly post big aitch to suggest what you have.These women on Sat broke the law and are going to get of lightly ,expertly executed and organised law breaking by the very same people who are crying out to get more laws introduced for their protection but ignore laws they don't like.

I must admit I don't watch the news on TV anymore, when we were kids we always used to watch the 10 oclock news and other news broadcasts and I used to until about 25 years ago. I glanced at a pic of the women in the Mail (I get the papers at weekends for my wife, she likes doing all the magazine crosswords etc.) and they just looked like they were sitting around with candles lit.

I don't agree with activists but what would have happened if they were just left alone?

If they were left alone other shouty organisations such as Extinction Rebellion and BLM would demand the same treatment next time they want to disrupt life in London.

It was just a peaceful gathering, still dont understand why this woman death was more important than the other 112 (female) murders in the last year.

Then the blm and the paid agitators turned up and then the police got confused on who can break the rules. Then the media lies to the public on who actually caused all the problems, it wasnt peaceful women lighting candles.

this death is just the catalyst that really got all their feelings out about being scared when out alone,possibly the fact its a policeman and they would feel safe with him around has stirred it all up with all/most women

Well said Gazo. This was supposed to be a respectful vigil but the Police told them they couldn't do it. Then the right's activists get involved. Don't listen to those people who are suggesting it was the other way around. They are wrong.
The Police decided to take the heavy handed approach and it backfired on them. The Police should have known this would happen. Then to compound the problem they had created they turned up with Police dogs and arrested people. It was a disgraceful decision and those on here, like San Quentin, who are laying the blame at the wrong door are just twisting the facts to suit their own agenda.
This murder was a mess up by the Police in the first place and they should have been bending over backwards to let these women have their vigil with the advice that they should social distance and wear masks. Nothing would have happened. But they didn't and that is where the problem lies.

Strange you forgot to mention the Rangers fans celebrating Stewy. !! ??

No agenda with me brigust1 just plainly telling the truth.Open your eyes and ears please and see what's going on.It was never ever going to be just a vigil.These women have exploited  lots for their "agenda"In a sad way I feel sorry for you brigust1 in the fact you are exactly the"type" these women are abusing and you can't or don't want to face facts.You are displaying traits that these women want men like you to change or possibly castrated.

That is where you err SQ. It was always going to be a vigil. Even the Duchess of Cambridge turned up. If we aren't getting past that one point, I am wasting my time because that is the main point. It was only after the Police rejected that idea that things changed, and quite rightly so. The rest of your point is just silly and misguided.

i like to think those closest to sarah would know better than anyone tbh and once again here is one explainingWhen I first heard of the vigil for my friend Sarah Everard, I was looking forward to attending. But I won’t be -- it’s not a tribute to her anymore. Her death has been hijacked by an agenda. I don’t think Sarah would have wanted this,I also wish to publicly praise the police conducting this investigation. They have done their job brilliantly, and although sadly it is too late for Sarah, I am grateful they are finding us some of the answers that we so desperately need. I am sure they are equally stunned and appalled that this awful crime seems to have been perpetrated by one of their own.

As for us, her friends? Let us grieve for our loved one, brutally taken in such an awful way. The public reaction to her death has been overwhelming, and for the most part very touching. But be assured, the misuse of it by those with an ‘agenda’ is not a comfort to us.
why she decided not to go



media chose not to show footage of police being set about or the fk the police chanting , at a vigil ffs , lowlifes

glasgow bit of a red herring no doubt if some fans had turned it in to a protest against the police,like some obviously did at clapham,the police in scotland would have reacted in exactly the same way

duchess sent out with no mask for a photo op i imagine , showing the sensitive side of the royal family 

could be cynical but charlie and william coincidently in media with folk of colour last week aswell

holding babies and healing the wounded with compassion and impartiality next imo

Hello: The Police shouldn't have been there in the first place. You are missing the whole point. From the moment they banned it the game was up.

I can't wait for a spin off by the extreme wing- BLM- Butch Lesbian Masters!

They'll be wanting men down on 2 knees, not just one!

if it had been declared legal same outcome

if you start singing fk the police at a vigil theres something wrong with you tbh , these folk were nothing but disrespectful to the memory of sarah and her family /friends , i will say a minority tho as most were there for right reasons

if police hadnt attended you would have the whole uk in arms asking why they are locked up or cant go to football etc while a crowd can legally gather for a vigil , its just the law being upheld which is what they were told to do

You are wrong in almost every respect Hello. Do you not get it? If the Police had not tried to stop it no protestors would have turned up. Why would they? That is the whole point. We all know some protestors look for any reason to protest but if the Police had allowed this to happen out of respect for Sarah no protestors would be there. That is their whole raison d'etre. It would have just been a respectful vigil. Why shouldn't they have been allowed to do that?
The girl's body had just been identified. It wasn't something to wait months for. The Police showed no respect for Sarah or those who think what happened to her shouldn't have happened. This is not a Police state. With every law there are exceptions. They know it but just ignored it. They were wrong.

I understand when Rangers, for example, have thousands of fans celebrating their title win, where the Police arrested a number of people. But that was always likely to be celebratory and sticking two fingers up to the rules. It was not, and was never going to be, a vigil. There is a huge difference.

How many of these women were on the George Floyd vigil the guy that pleaded guilty to breaking into a womans house pointing a gun at her stomach and robbed her.

They should have stayed at home imo.
So many people out there wanting something to rail against right now.
I feel sorry for the police tbh, talk about [rock and hard place].

brigust1 ,clear your mind of any thoughts you had on the matter.Now ask yourself who were the organisers of said event?If you don't know go and find out.They were told in court the gathering(at best) was illegal to take place but chose to ignore and carry on regardless.Lock them up everyone who can be identified.You appear to be purposely ignoring the facts,obtuse or perhaps you are the one on here with an agenda.Hope this helps you brigust1

Will you be giving Lostintranslation another chance, Sonko? The horse might have gone at the game but I've had a few quid on at 60 on here. Back at chelters, drying ground and the yard finding a bit of form.......its not completely out of the question that he could run a big one.

You don't seem to understand SQ. You must start at the beginning. A small group of women asked to do a vigil in remembrance of Sarah at a critical time and for heartfelt reasons. I see nothing wrong with that as long as they socially distance and wore masks. The Police refused and when they did they must have known the Human rights people would be down on them but they are so stupid they ploughed on anyway. Then to compound the fracture they tried to stop the vigil with dogs.

You are starting after the start and that is where you are wrong. Had the Police allowed this small gathering there would have been no problems but the idiots giving the orders threw the kitchen sink at it.

When you grasp the idea that everything that followed the first Police decision has nothing to do with this then you will be seeing the wood for the trees.
Everything that followed the first Police decision was bound to cause problems and they should have known that. It is therefore their fault making a mountain out of a molehill.

Can you grasp that SQ?

No whippin, Tizzard is gone at the game.

I'm not quite ready to hand in the divorce papers on Lostintranslation. And here's why: 1st run of the season was on heavy going. His only other 2 previous races on such going resulted in a 7/19 & 6/6. So I'm going to forgive him that one. Next, Kempton just isn't his track and also he's a better horse going LH. He jumped like a washing machine for his 2nd place at Sandown & the Carlisle race he won was a very weak affair. Now his final run is a little harder to make an excuse for but I'm going to try all the same. It was his first run after a wind op and he did run well up to a point in that race, also the form of the stable was at an all time low.

An interesting thread although naff all to do with Horseracing at least it has been turned into such!! Have to agree though re-Brigust.......seems to have an agenda,whatever it might be loses me in terms of why the similar argumentative stance on such diverse threads?

Btw whippin where have you seen drying ground forecast?

no real rain forcast for the rest of the week means drying ground unless he waters

So still soft then Gazo?

possibly not come friday but does depend on how soft it is tomorrow and if he waters

No way the watering can will come out imo and odds on no "good" in the description Friday?