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And his World came crashing down , it wasn't a picture any horse lover enjoyed , in fact to some it was beyond distasteful . It invoked so much pain in some that they felt the need to write about their feelings. Here was ablaze with anger , the Man was called all sorts you'd think he had killed the poor beast . A man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign.
Animal lovers were shocked ,calling for him to be banned for life from holding a trainers licence , no inquiry allowed they said it was obvious what he was . A Tramp,Pikey , etc . A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign..
Pay he must went out the call , yet those very same people will enjoy a lunch today of Halal meat , were animals have their blood spilled while still in their full senses , screaming in agony as their lives slip slowly away , terrified and shaking as the knife enters their jugular vein , no nice injection to put them to sleep . A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory sign .
As someone who loves horses and has worked with them , I have seen several die and its never nice . Die they do sadly ,but it still hurts when a friend leaves your life under any circumstances .
Nobody is condoning that picture least of all me , anyone who has worked around horses know you do it for the love of them , its certainly not for the money .
A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign...
Enjoy your lunch one and all...
Animal lovers were shocked ,calling for him to be banned for life from holding a trainers licence , no inquiry allowed they said it was obvious what he was . A Tramp,Pikey , etc . A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign..
Pay he must went out the call , yet those very same people will enjoy a lunch today of Halal meat , were animals have their blood spilled while still in their full senses , screaming in agony as their lives slip slowly away , terrified and shaking as the knife enters their jugular vein , no nice injection to put them to sleep . A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory sign .
As someone who loves horses and has worked with them , I have seen several die and its never nice . Die they do sadly ,but it still hurts when a friend leaves your life under any circumstances .
Nobody is condoning that picture least of all me , anyone who has worked around horses know you do it for the love of them , its certainly not for the money .
A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign...
Enjoy your lunch one and all...
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Another bonkers thread. I would think about booking in with Gordon.
Well out workrider the world has gone mad. I hope Gordon has a good family support network,this could drive a man over the edge
Amazing how many drama queens are about on here , crying their hearts out but still buying and eating meat from animals that have been given no dignity in death , but have been tortured and slowly allowed die in pitiful conditions, but, A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign and their fury knows no bounds ..
Laying, maybe a second opinion was needed hence this thread, or have you already become judge and jury like so many on other threads..I hope you look carefully at the lunch menu..
is it you workrider ..going on to threads saying that people should move on ...and then starting ANOTHER THREAD...bit contrary dont you think ?
The point of this thread is simply this, how many of the bleating hordes on here eat Halal meat and the pain it causes Animals including our beloved Horses...
Indeed. One can only milk it that much. Any more it will become more than an obsession - it will become an illness for some.
I despise those on the bookies gravy train eg horse racing presenters/journalists promoting gambling/the BHA for condoning the same bookies responsible for the proliferation of fobt machines in the high streets resulting in the mega increase in problem gambling and addictsamongst youngsters, mental health and distress on players and their families not forgetting the burden these have had on public entities eg nhs, police and legal bodies and society.
The horse was already dead, and nobody died. Try and put it in perspective.
I despise those on the bookies gravy train eg horse racing presenters/journalists promoting gambling/the BHA for condoning the same bookies responsible for the proliferation of fobt machines in the high streets resulting in the mega increase in problem gambling and addictsamongst youngsters, mental health and distress on players and their families not forgetting the burden these have had on public entities eg nhs, police and legal bodies and society.
The horse was already dead, and nobody died. Try and put it in perspective.
Workrider,
you seem to be doing all the bleating this last few days. Give it a rest mate, at least for your own mental health and leave dead horses lie.
you seem to be doing all the bleating this last few days. Give it a rest mate, at least for your own mental health and leave dead horses lie.
i agree the man has suffered enough , given his punishment is not yet even delivered yet and reality is he didnt kill the horse just made a dreadful error that conveyed a total lack of empathy to one of his horses
but in interest of balance there are many many more folk who are charged with animal care that have empathy and connection to thier animals
no point saying its ok because others do worse , many others do better also
and ive tried to see the pic from his side , i personally cant but he should be allowed to move on whatever that means for him
whether that involves horses is for owners to decide tbh and as you see a few have already
but in interest of balance there are many many more folk who are charged with animal care that have empathy and connection to thier animals
no point saying its ok because others do worse , many others do better also
and ive tried to see the pic from his side , i personally cant but he should be allowed to move on whatever that means for him
whether that involves horses is for owners to decide tbh and as you see a few have already
Like you hello, I think he is bearing a big cost personally for this picture. Unfortunately there has been a huge amount of coverage of it in the world outside of horse racing and unfair as it is, this needs to be dealt with. The picture will never go away and while he is involved in horse racing it will always be a target for the loony left brigade that seems to have so much power in our world. I'm afraid he needs to go and find something else to do for the good of the sport. I know it's a little unfair but this has become a big issue now. The quicker he goes, the better for everyone.
Yes it's really all the fault of the loony left that we have to deal with this mess rather than sweep it under the carpet. All for the good of the sport you know.
Agree with differentdrum .Gordon and Workrider both in need of therapy
'The Loony Left' LOL!
Most people in and around horseracing lean toward the right wing of politics.
But never let a fact get in the way of blind prejudice!
Most people in and around horseracing lean toward the right wing of politics.
But never let a fact get in the way of blind prejudice!
Yes loper, only honcho could dream up a scenario whereby the loony left could be blamed.
The looney left outside of horseracing loper. Only keyboard warrior like Sparrow could deny them.
Gees, is there any topic on here that doesn't need to turn into loony left or far right garbage
I doubt it. Its where people seem to congregate in this world.
A Man sat on a Dead Horse and gave the victory Sign...
workrider
Yes who in their fookin right mind would do that.!!??
workrider
Yes who in their fookin right mind would do that.!!??
If Bojo had done that what would be the reaction????????
Probably a bigger public outcry.
But he hasnt so its irrelevant.
But he hasnt so its irrelevant.
The point being the horse was dead..... jockeys sometimes get a fence wrong and the horse never gets up from the fall. Don’t see jockeys of horses that have died being told to quit.. get another job etc. In fact apart from the generic “ very sad for the owners loss and how much the horse meant to them” comments, they are back out there in the next race without a care in the world. It’s a very fickle world.....
GE has made a monumental error of judgement.. but some perspective needs to be shed on this situation.
'now...', indeed. Sometimes it was the jockey's fault or indecisiveness that had caused the fall.
Do you really think this is the first time he's done something like this ?? ...... I doubt it .... but it's the first time it's come to the wider public attention ....
some perspective needs to be shed on this situation.
the perspective is fine - this is a horseracing matter and only horseracing-related punishments will be issued
the perspective is fine - this is a horseracing matter and only horseracing-related punishments will be issued
The long lasting cancel culture style punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
Might as well as drag him out in front of firing squad if you’re going to completely destroy his life.
And that’s just him...no ones talked about his family, kids at school, the stable staff who’ll be out of work or the creditors who will end up with nothing because he’s bankrupt.
Cancel culture is an evil blood sport.
Might as well as drag him out in front of firing squad if you’re going to completely destroy his life.
And that’s just him...no ones talked about his family, kids at school, the stable staff who’ll be out of work or the creditors who will end up with nothing because he’s bankrupt.
Cancel culture is an evil blood sport.
Let's see how some on here think when jump racing is finally done.....and it aint far off, I'm 50 and I may see it out, if you're 30 you've got no chance, certainly not as we know it now.
It'll probably look something like they have in Australia, they've been there and done it.
It'll probably look something like they have in Australia, they've been there and done it.
The long lasting cancel culture style punishment doesn’t fit the crime.
What punishment?
Haven't even had an investigation nor a hearing yet?
More right wing bigoted conspiracy theories.
What punishment?
Haven't even had an investigation nor a hearing yet?
More right wing bigoted conspiracy theories.
That’s not how cancel culture works loper.
He’s now a target for the activists and whatever the IHRB or BHB won’t matter to do him.
Also if I’m right wing then I’m probably like Pepe with my left foot....although I don’t have a left foot but you understand. Actually I do have a left foot...just not left footed...in case you thought I had one leg.
He’s now a target for the activists and whatever the IHRB or BHB won’t matter to do him.
Also if I’m right wing then I’m probably like Pepe with my left foot....although I don’t have a left foot but you understand. Actually I do have a left foot...just not left footed...in case you thought I had one leg.
The Grand National and races over fences can disappear for all I care for the reason of safety. Year after year horses have been injured some fatally eg Don Cossack, No More Heroes, etc.
Now we talking loper.
Dele...the only person to have a sex video released teaching a girl how to give ****s and it gets conveniently swept under the carpet. Go figure...I guess you got to be a top English footballer to get special protection.
Dele...the only person to have a sex video released teaching a girl how to give ****s and it gets conveniently swept under the carpet. Go figure...I guess you got to be a top English footballer to get special protection.
What does this new term "cancel culture" mean?
it's an invention of the right it means we want to behave as badly as we want with no consequences.
it's an invention of the right it means we want to behave as badly as we want with no consequences.
Thank you, A T. I struggle with all their fancy terms.....virtue signalling....snowflakes etc.
"virtue signalling" = we hate people who want to behave decently
"snowflakes" = people who care about other people
"snowflakes" = people who care about other people
Lol you guys are funny...next you’ll tell me those vote counts in Georgia were legit or Trump organised a coup.
workrider -
You Opening Post - comes across as if you are in a Pulpit - Preaching a Sermon....
- perhaps a long-held career wish.
As a NON-believing rational Agnostic - who does not countenance all the Religious nonsense -
I, quite obviously, do not eat - "HALAL meat" ... to the beast of my knowledge
... that is for the superstitious BAME brigade ... and I cannot comprehend what relevance it could have to this issue, on a Horse Racing Forum.
You Opening Post - comes across as if you are in a Pulpit - Preaching a Sermon....
- perhaps a long-held career wish.
As a NON-believing rational Agnostic - who does not countenance all the Religious nonsense -
I, quite obviously, do not eat - "HALAL meat" ... to the beast of my knowledge
... that is for the superstitious BAME brigade ... and I cannot comprehend what relevance it could have to this issue, on a Horse Racing Forum.
Glad to hear that , hopefully those on here who have been having their poor little hearts thorn to shreds by that picture will also check the labels in Subway etc and have a good look before consuming it .Animal lovers don't just cry over dead horses, surely they would be more worried about HOW the Animal suffered before it met its death . I'm assuming even Agnostics have feelings...
What you're doing is spending too much time on social media. The man has a right to a defense and eventually forgiveness but you're going way OTT in your defense of what has happened.
Schraderbrua , I do NOT defend what he did in ANY shape or form . I defend a Mans right to justice simple as that.Not this gunslinger mentality that seen on here...
Just for you cancel culture deniers, this gentleman hasn't being saying the right things so they've had to cancel him.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/mar/02/sas-who-dares-wins-ant-middleton-dropped-over-blm-and-covid-tweets-channel-4?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR19dSs1dxIpTVz_1pX1Fr4Lwv-evY1gvD0aJuJb7syHuqol4AH0WjZ9hSQ#Echobox=1614688135
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/mar/02/sas-who-dares-wins-ant-middleton-dropped-over-blm-and-covid-tweets-channel-4?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR19dSs1dxIpTVz_1pX1Fr4Lwv-evY1gvD0aJuJb7syHuqol4AH0WjZ9hSQ#Echobox=1614688135
OK, fair enough. Most people are rational though, getting wound up by those that aren't just shines negative attention on yourself. As far as cancel culture goes, it's not a new thing. Glenn Hoddle was hounded out of the England job over misjudged/misinterpreted quotes. That was late 90's.
The picture was distasteful to say the very least...but the far left media are tying to bury Gordon well & truly. An apology and a small ban isn’t enough for them, they are baying for blood....snowflake and far left era.
We are pandering to appease the people who have never liked the sport, never will like the sport & hate the sport.
We are pandering to appease the people who have never liked the sport, never will like the sport & hate the sport.
Mar 3, 2021 -- 5:38PM, A_T wrote:
"virtue signalling" = we hate people who want to behave decently"snowflakes" = people who care about other people
Woke.....far left snowflake....horse racing is not your sport if you are one of them...as they want to end the sport
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'The Loony Left' LOL!
Most people in and around horseracing lean toward the right wing of politics.
But never let a fact get in the way of blind prejudice!
I think it's a bit more than "leaning" to the right, loper.
'The Loony Left' LOL!
Most people in and around horseracing lean toward the right wing of politics.
But never let a fact get in the way of blind prejudice!
I think it's a bit more than "leaning" to the right, loper.
first it was a fake now it's a mistake blown out of proportion - the apologists need to get their stories straight
Anyone who has worked in the horse industry will tell you that approx 90% of the workforce are of the Left , its usually POOR people who work in stables RUN by Right Wingers , the mere thought that the working class stable lads and lassies are right wing is simply laughable...
Wow one out of how many A.T . Or maybe all those lads been imported from Pakistan are really Sons of Rich Millionaires who fancy been underpaid . Or maybe like the other 90% of those working in some terrible conditions are all just getting themselves used to living with the poor before returning to their rich parents to finish UNI...
OK Workrider.
Thanks for pointing out that the people you blame for so called lynching Elliot are the left wing stable staff who spend their underpaid lives looking after the horses that the right wing owners and trainers 'sit on', dead or alive.
Thanks for pointing out that the people you blame for so called lynching Elliot are the left wing stable staff who spend their underpaid lives looking after the horses that the right wing owners and trainers 'sit on', dead or alive.
Hasn't it always been a stone age industry with the doffing of caps etc?
Loper please read the thread and show me where I said such a thing, along the way someone on this thread seem to think that the racing industry is over run with rich kids who are left wingers when in fact over 90% of those hard working people are WORKING class who I doubt very much are Right Wingers...
Cant agree with any attempt to turn this into a left\right political issue.
When did sheik mo hold his hands up and say he was sorry ?
gordon came straight out apologised and said he was stupid.
This forum is sick
When did sheik mo hold his hands up and say he was sorry ?
gordon came straight out apologised and said he was stupid.
This forum is sick
Mar 3, 2021 -- 7:12PM, A_T wrote:
first it was a fake now it's a mistake blown out of proportion - the apologists need to get their stories straight
You’re on the politics forum saying Trump is running in 2024 for money......a billionaire running for presidency... for money 
Your left agenda is clear for all to see. If Corbyn sat on a dead horse you would have been the first to forgive .... GTFO with your left agenda
The pictures of Elliott and James first turned up in that far left bible Mail Online ...
You’re on the politics forum saying Trump is running in 2024 for money......a billionaire running for presidency... for money
Trump's bankrupt you clown
Trump's bankrupt you clown
i believe the victory sign is suppose to be"i will be with you in two minutes"sign to someone off camera
Mar 3, 2021 -- 7:49PM, shady69 wrote:
The pictures of Elliott and James first turned up in that far left bible Mail Online ...
AHEM!
I'm a Mail-reader.
Does that make me a leftie?
I don't even know what a leftie is.
games run by tories
dont need to search too far to see the cash they made from last years chelt , cash for undue influence
Matt Hancock is under fire for receiving £10,000 from a top horse auctioneer that runs a multi-million-pound annual sale at Cheltenham Festival, openDemocracy can reveal.
The donation comes as local frustration mounts over an ‘overdue’ inquiry into why last year’s festival, held days before the UK went into its first national lockdown on 23 March, was allowed to proceed. Scientists say the four-day event, attended by 250,000 people, may have been responsible for more than ten thousand COVID-19 cases.
Hancock received £10,000 from Tattersalls in November, according to the latest register of ministers’ financial interests. The health secretary has received more than £140,000 from the company, which is the oldest bloodstock auctioneer in the world and the largest thoroughbred sales house in Europe, since being elected in 2010.
dont need to search too far to see the cash they made from last years chelt , cash for undue influence
Matt Hancock is under fire for receiving £10,000 from a top horse auctioneer that runs a multi-million-pound annual sale at Cheltenham Festival, openDemocracy can reveal.
The donation comes as local frustration mounts over an ‘overdue’ inquiry into why last year’s festival, held days before the UK went into its first national lockdown on 23 March, was allowed to proceed. Scientists say the four-day event, attended by 250,000 people, may have been responsible for more than ten thousand COVID-19 cases.
Hancock received £10,000 from Tattersalls in November, according to the latest register of ministers’ financial interests. The health secretary has received more than £140,000 from the company, which is the oldest bloodstock auctioneer in the world and the largest thoroughbred sales house in Europe, since being elected in 2010.
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