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RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO bigger than BFSP 8.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 8.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO bigger than BFSP 8.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 8.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | Lost | Won | ||
| Wednesday 28th Oct | ||||||
| Taunton 1:40 | Night Commander | |||||
| Punchestown 1:55 | Dewcup | No Bet | ||||
| Punchestown 1:55 | Western Run | No Bet | ||||
| Fakenham 3:02 | Gaelik Coast | |||||
| Fakenham 4:02 | Sun Rising Hill | |||||
| Taunton 4:10 | Schnabel | |||||
| Dundalk 4:55 | Scherzando | |||||
| Kempton 7:15 | Indigo Times | |||||
| Kempton 7:45 | Almighwar | |||||
| Thursday 29th Oct | ||||||
| Stratford 1:36 | Fred | |||||
| Stratford 1:36 | Gaelik Coast | |||||
| Stratford 1:36 | Winningseverything | |||||
| Lingfield 1:45 | Chocoya | |||||
| Clonmel 2:50 | Sweet Sting | |||||
| Newton Abbot 2:58 | Cotton End | |||||
| Stratford 3:06 | Frero Banbou | |||||
| Stratford 3:36 | Captain Speaking | |||||
| Lingfield 3:45 | Sorrel | |||||
| Southwell 6:15 | Exalted | |||||
| Friday 30th Oct | ||||||
| Newmarket 1:10 | Punchbowl Flyer | |||||
| Newmarket 1:45 | Chocoya | |||||
| Newmarket 1:45 | Punchbowl Flyer | |||||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | |||||
| Wetherby 2:45 | Duffle Coat | |||||
| Newmarket 2:55 | Waters Edge | |||||
| Newmarket 2:55 | Whitehaven | |||||
| Newmarket 3:30 | Racing Country | |||||
| Newmarket 3:30 | Waters Edge | |||||
| Saturday 31st Oct | ||||||
| Newmarket 12:55 | Bear Me In Mind | |||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Kearney Hill | |||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Pennyforapound | |||||
| Wetherby 1:35 | Raecius Felix | |||||
| Wetherby 2:45 | Indefatigable | |||||
| Ayr 1:07 | Doktor Glaz | |||||
| Ayr 2:17 | Sultans Pride | |||||
| Ascot 1:20 | Ansam | |||||
| Ascot 1:20 | Ga Law | |||||
| Down Royal 12:40 | Duffle Coat | |||||
| Down Royal 12:40 | Quilixios | |||||
| Down Royal 1:15 | Bob Olinger | |||||
| Down Royal 3:00 | Easy Game | |||||
| Down Royal 3:35 | Rudy Catrail | |||||
| Sunday 1st Nov | ||||||
| Naas 3:05 | Great Deal | |||||
| Cork 1:43 | Formal Order | |||||
| Cork 2:15 | The Shunter | |||||
| Huntingdon 1:51 | Pink Sheets | |||||
| Huntingdon 2:56 | Lots Of Luck | |||||
| Huntingdon 2:56 | Dallas Cowboy | |||||
| Huntingdon 4:01 | The Late Legend | |||||
| Carlisle 1:05 | Kearney Hill | |||||
| Carlisle 1:05 | Tupelo Mississippi | |||||
| Carlisle 1:35 | Mayo Star | |||||
| Carlisle 1:35 | Raecius Felix | |||||
| Totals P/L | ||||||
| Losers | 0 | |||||
| Winners | 0 | |||||
| NO BETS | 2 |
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Hats off to you guys, there are some great tallies there.
Well done.
Well done.
Not sure what system Dak is running now ?
Claiming Alberts on Punters
But took out Detached earlier in week
Claiming Alberts on Punters
But took out Detached earlier in week
My new rules were: System following horses that win their first ever handicap and then run in a handicap in the next race under 4/1 in the sporting life the night before , i took detached out after i checked a bit later that night and the odds had changed to 4/1,the way i see it is i cant use cut off on day of 5.5 because some 4/1 shots seem to hover around that price and you dont wether to back or leave alone ....this method if one goes higher than 7/2 and wins it's a bonus Blue Whisper 8th (9-2) 6.6 and Glencoum Lass 3rd (4/1) 7.53 went above the 5.5 and i have put -£10 on both...good luck all
How did Happy manage to dodge Spirit of Rowdown (20:00 Wolves)?
Thought it was a Hatrick Seeker?
Happy - if I was still in business, I would hire you to do my tax returns!
Thought it was a Hatrick Seeker?
Happy - if I was still in business, I would hire you to do my tax returns!
Fair enough
depends how many times a night you check SL
GL
depends how many times a night you check SL
GL
The Management,
What? so you could all lose your money on it?
Trust me to save you a few bob.
Top Accountant that’s me.
What? so you could all lose your money on it?
Trust me to save you a few bob.
Top Accountant that’s me.
You appear to have dodged the question Happy - was Spirit of Rowdown (20:00 Wolverhampton last night) not a Hatrick Seeker iyo?
TM,
Yes, it was a Hatrick Seeker and I didn't see it until you pointed it out.
Thanks.
Yes, it was a Hatrick Seeker and I didn't see it until you pointed it out.
Thanks.
| Saturday 19th Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 12:50 | Queens Course | 2nd | 85/40 | 3.32 | £10.00 | ||
| Lingfield 1:25 | Brian The Snail | 2nd | 14/1 | 18.90 | No Bet | ||
| Lingfield 2:35 | Al Zaraqaan | 1st | 11/10 | 2.22 | (£12.20) | ||
| Haydock 12:20 | Elvis Mail | 4th | 11/4 | 4.00 | £10.00 | ||
| Haydock 2:40 | Hill Sixteen | P.U. | 11/4 | 4.07 | £10.00 | ||
| Ascot 1:15 | Caribean Boy | 3rd | 4/5 | 1.86 | £10.00 | ||
| Ascot 3:35 | Isolate | 10th | 14/1 | 19.10 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 8:00 | Spirit Of Rowdown | 1st | 11/10 | 2.34 | (£13.40) | ||
| Totals | (£148.80) | £120.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 7 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 12 | ||||||
| No Bets | 18 | ||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | |||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£148.80) | £120.00 | (£28.80) | ||||
| Week 10 | |||||||
| Totals | (£892.28) | £1,090.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £197.72 |
Roll on Monday's 5 selections.
| WEEK 10 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 13th Dec | |||||||
| Thurles 1:00 | Warreedy | P.U. | 3/1 | 4.98 | £10.00 | ||
| Thurles 2:00 | Gauloise | 1st | 4/5 | 1.94 | (£9.40) | ||
| Thurles 2:30 | Sullane Hill | 5th | 11/2 | 7.05 | No Bet | ||
| Southwell 2:15 | Luscifer | 2nd | 11/10 | 2.10 | £10.00 | ||
| Southwell 4:15 | Spring Romance | 2nd | 6/5 | 2.34 | No Bet | ||
| Southwell 4:15 | The Nosey Parker | 7th | 11/2 | 7.72 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 14th Dec | |||||||
| Musselburgh 12:15 | Alright Sunshine | ||||||
| Musselburgh 1:45 | Top Billing | ||||||
| Lingfield 1:30 | Freedom And Wheat | ||||||
| Newcastle 1:55 | Rochester House | ||||||
| Newcastle 5:25 | Phoenix Star | ||||||
| Tuesday 15th Dec | |||||||
| Totals | (£9.40) | £20.00 | |||||
| Wednesday 16th Dec | Losing bets | 1 | |||||
| Winning bets | 2 | ||||||
| No Bets | 3 | ||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | |||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| Thursday 17th Dec | week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | |||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| Friday 18th Dec | week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | |||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | |||||||
| Saturday 20th Dec | |||||||
| Totals | (£878.88) | £1,090.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £211.12 |
No bets until Boxing Day.
What I find amazing, going through the cards, is how many horses there are carrying the green & gold JP McManus colours.
I can't see the point owning that many horses, it just makes him look like he's got more money than sense.
What I find amazing, going through the cards, is how many horses there are carrying the green & gold JP McManus colours.
I can't see the point owning that many horses, it just makes him look like he's got more money than sense.
| WEEK 10 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday203th Dec | |||||||
| Thurles 1:00 | Warreedy | P.U. | 3/1 | 4.98 | £10.00 | ||
| Thurles 2:00 | Gauloise | 1st | 4/5 | 1.94 | (£9.40) | ||
| Thurles 2:30 | Sullane Hill | 5th | 11/2 | 7.05 | No Bet | ||
| Southwell 2:15 | Luscifer | 2nd | 11/10 | 2.10 | £10.00 | ||
| Southwell 4:15 | Spring Romance | 2nd | 6/5 | 2.34 | No Bet | ||
| Southwell 4:15 | The Nosey Parker | 7th | 11/2 | 7.72 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 21st Dec | |||||||
| Musselburgh 12:15 | Alright Sunshine | N.R. | |||||
| Musselburgh 1:45 | Top Billing | 12th | 16/1 | 25.40 | No Bet | ||
| Lingfield 1:30 | Freedom And Wheat | 2nd | 11/4 | 4.13 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 1:55 | Rochester House | 4th | 100/30 | 5.16 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 5:25 | Phoenix Star | 2nd | 9/2 | 6.60 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 22nd Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:45 | It Must Be Faith | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.37 | £10.00 | ||
| Lingfield 12:15 | Rohaan | 1st | Evens | 2.11 | No Bet | ||
| Lingfield 12:15 | Tilaawah | 4th | 7/2 | 5.65 | No Bet | ||
| Huntingdon 2:35 | Blue Sans | 10th | 28/1 | 33.86 | No Bet | ||
| Huntingdon 2:35 | Karlie | 5th | 20/1 | 28.46 | No Bet | ||
| Sedgefield 2:25 | Hart Of Steel | 2nd | 85/40 | 3.40 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 23rd Dec | NO MEETINGS | ||||||
| Thursday 24th Dec | NO MEETINGS | ||||||
| Friday 25th Dec | NO MEETINGS | ||||||
| Saturday 26th Dec | |||||||
| Leppardstown 1:05 | Zanahiyr | ||||||
| Leppardstown 1:40 | Mig Des Taillons | ||||||
| Leppardstown 1:40 | Mattie's Mountain | ||||||
| Leppardstown 1:40 | Sadies Trix | ||||||
| Leppardstown 2:15 | Felix Desjy | ||||||
| Leppardstown 2:50 | Grand Partner | ||||||
| Limerick 2:35 | Pencilfulloflead | ||||||
| Wincanton 12:59 | Oscar Rose | ||||||
| Wincanton 1:34 | Cuban Pete | ||||||
| Kempton 12:40 | Atholl Street | ||||||
| Kempton 1:50 | Shan Blue | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:55 | Richard R H B | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 3:30 | Misty Grey | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 3:30 | Papa Stour | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 4:05 | Boosala | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 4:05 | Misty Grey | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 4:05 | Zapper Cass | ||||||
| Totals | (£9.40) | £60.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 1 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 6 | ||||||
| No Bets | 9 | ||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | |||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | (£9.40) | £60.00 | £50.60 | ||||
| Totals | (£888.28) | £1,150.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £261.72 | ||||||
| WEEK 10 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday203th Dec | |||||||
| Thurles 1:00 | Warreedy | P.U. | 3/1 | 4.98 | £10.00 | ||
| Thurles 2:00 | Gauloise | 1st | 4/5 | 1.94 | (£9.40) | ||
| Thurles 2:30 | Sullane Hill | 5th | 11/2 | 7.05 | No Bet | ||
| Southwell 2:15 | Luscifer | 2nd | 11/10 | 2.10 | £10.00 | ||
| Southwell 4:15 | Spring Romance | 2nd | 6/5 | 2.34 | No Bet | ||
| Southwell 4:15 | The Nosey Parker | 7th | 11/2 | 7.72 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 21st Dec | |||||||
| Musselburgh 12:15 | Alright Sunshine | N.R. | |||||
| Musselburgh 1:45 | Top Billing | 12th | 16/1 | 25.40 | No Bet | ||
| Lingfield 1:30 | Freedom And Wheat | 2nd | 11/4 | 4.13 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 1:55 | Rochester House | 4th | 100/30 | 5.16 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 5:25 | Phoenix Star | 2nd | 9/2 | 6.60 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 22nd Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:45 | It Must Be Faith | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.37 | £10.00 | ||
| Lingfield 12:15 | Rohaan | 1st | Evens | 2.11 | No Bet | ||
| Lingfield 12:15 | Tilaawah | 4th | 7/2 | 5.65 | No Bet | ||
| Huntingdon 2:35 | Blue Sans | 10th | 28/1 | 33.86 | No Bet | ||
| Huntingdon 2:35 | Karlie | 5th | 20/1 | 28.46 | No Bet | ||
| Sedgefield 2:25 | Hart Of Steel | 2nd | 85/40 | 3.40 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 23rd Dec | NO MEETINGS | ||||||
| Thursday 24th Dec | NO MEETINGS | ||||||
| Friday 25th Dec | NO MEETINGS | ||||||
| Saturday 26th Dec | |||||||
| Leppardstown 1:05 | Zanahiyr | 1st | 1/2 | 1.56 | (£5.60) | ||
| Leppardstown 1:40 | Mig Des Taillons | N.R. | |||||
| Leppardstown 1:40 | Sadies Trix | 11th | 25/1 | 37.40 | No Bet | ||
| Leppardstown 2:15 | Felix Desjy | 3rd | 15/8 | 3.20 | £10.00 | ||
| Leppardstown 2:50 | Grand Partner | 2nd | 16/1 | 23.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:35 | Pencilfulloflead | 2nd | 13/2 | 8.40 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:50 | Shan Blue | 1st | 7/4 | 2.99 | (£19.90) | ||
| Wolverhampton 3:30 | Misty Grey | 1st | 6/4 | 2.61 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 3:30 | Papa Stour | 6th | 6/1 | 7.60 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 4:05 | Boosala | 3rd | 4/1 | 5.80 | £10.00 | ||
| Totals | (£34.90) | £80.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 3 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 8 | ||||||
| No Bets | 14 | ||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | |||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | ||||
| Totals | (£913.78) | £1,170.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £256.22 |
WEEK 11
Looks like a madhouse betting between !:00pm & 2:30pm tomorrow.
Might be best to put all those bets on early otherwise it will get very confusing.
Looks like a madhouse betting between !:00pm & 2:30pm tomorrow.
Might be best to put all those bets on early otherwise it will get very confusing.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | ||||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | ||||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | ||||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | ||||||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | ||||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | ||||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | ||||||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | ||||||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | ||||||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | ||||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | ||||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | ||||||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | ||||||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | Totals | £0.00 | £0.00 | ||||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | Losing bets | 0 | |||||
| Winning bets | 0 | ||||||
| Thursday 31st Dec | No Bets | 0 | |||||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | Lost | Won | Profit | ||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £70.00 | £35.10 | ||||
| Week 11 | £0.00 | £0.00 | |||||
| Totals | (£913.78) | £1,160.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £246.22 | ||||||
How's it going hapsan?
I've finally got a hotpot novice chaser to lay.
It really ought to hose up but then, shouldn't they all?
And having watched Shishin's last romp, well.
But it's a cheap lay so what the he11?
Will see how it goes of course.
I've finally got a hotpot novice chaser to lay.
It really ought to hose up but then, shouldn't they all?
And having watched Shishin's last romp, well.
But it's a cheap lay so what the he11?
Will see how it goes of course.
Of all the 16 selections today only Wolverhampton 4:40 King Of The South meets the criteria for a Lay bet.
The rest are either N.R.s, abandoned meetings, 2 in the same race or the price will be above BFSP 6.00.
Good luck if you follow me in.
ericster,
Just seen your post.
Was even on the Lay bets yesterday but lost a £5 on the King George.
You didn't mention what your bet was or are you waiting for the result first?
The rest are either N.R.s, abandoned meetings, 2 in the same race or the price will be above BFSP 6.00.
Good luck if you follow me in.
ericster,
Just seen your post.
Was even on the Lay bets yesterday but lost a £5 on the King George.
You didn't mention what your bet was or are you waiting for the result first?
hapsan, it's in my last post, I layed 1.36, and it won, as it was supposed to, shiskin.
Better luck next time eh?
Better luck next time eh?
Today was a lesson in controlled gambling – one bet one winner.
The fact that Obtuse won the last race at Wolvers @ 6.80 was of no consequence to me.
BFSP 6.00 is my limit to Lay any selection.
The fact that Obtuse won the last race at Wolvers @ 6.80 was of no consequence to me.
BFSP 6.00 is my limit to Lay any selection.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | 4th | 16/1 | 21.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | 3rd | 16/1 | 19.62 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | 5th | 20/1 | 43.73 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | 9th | 15/2 | 9.54 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | 2nd | 7/2 | 4.70 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | 5th | 8/1 | 11.00 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | Fell | 28/1 | 28.01 | No Bet | ||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | 2nd | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | 1st | 5/1 | 6.80 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Catterick 3:07 | Cudgel | ||||||
| Limerick 2:10 | Notice To Close | ||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Sire Du Berlais | ||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | The Storyteller | ||||||
| Leopardstown 2:25 | Minella indo | ||||||
| Newcastle 6:05 | Herrinswell | ||||||
| Newcastle 6:35 | Mutabaahy | ||||||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | Totals | £0.00 | £10.00 | ||||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | Losing bets | 0 | |||||
| Winning bets | 1 | ||||||
| Thursday 31st Dec | No Bets | 13 | |||||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | Lost | Won | Profit | ||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £70.00 | £35.10 | ||||
| Week 11 | £0.00 | £10.00 | £10.00 | ||||
| Totals | (£913.78) | £1,170.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £256.22 |
Just Layed Toi Storey @ 5.00 by mistake instead of Cudgel.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | 4th | 16/1 | 21.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | 3rd | 16/1 | 19.62 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | 5th | 20/1 | 43.73 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | 9th | 15/2 | 9.54 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | 2nd | 7/2 | 4.70 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | 5th | 8/1 | 11.00 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | Fell | 28/1 | 28.01 | No Bet | ||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | 2nd | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | 1st | 5/1 | 6.80 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Sire Du Berlais | 3rd | 11/4 | 4.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | The Storyteller | 2nd | 7/1 | 9.40 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:10 | Notice To Close | 1st | 5/4 | 2.34 | (£13.40) | ||
| Leopardstown 2:25 | Minella Indo | Fell | 5/2 | 3.90 | £10.00 | ||
| Catterick 3:07 | Cudgel | 4th | 7/2 | 5.47 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:05 | Herrinswell | 6th | 6/1 | 7.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 6:35 | Mutabaahy | 7th | 7/1 | 9.27 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | |||||||
| Doncaster 12:00 | The Late Legend | 2nd | 15/2 | 9.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Concertista | 1st | 4/5 | 1.84 | (£8.40) | ||
| Newbury 2:05 | The Cob | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.56 | £10.00 | ||
| Newbury 2:40 | Cuban Pete | 3rd | 7/1 | 9.67 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:50 | Mattie's Mountain | 1st | 7/1 | 11.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:00 | Gabbys Cross | 6th | 3/1 | 4.38 | £10.00 | ||
| Kelso 3:07 | Caliviny | 7th | 9/2 | 7.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:35 | Hollow Games | 1st | 1/2 | 1.57 | (£5.70) | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Sevarano | 4th | 4/1 | 5.57 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Demachine | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.52 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Equus Dancer | U.R. | 8/1 | 10.44 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Bravemansgame | 1st | 5/2 | 3.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Star Gate | 2nd | 5/2 | 3.84 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Wilde About Oscar | 5th | 7/2 | 4.41 | No Bet | ||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | |||||||
| Limerick 1:55 | Fanamix | ||||||
| Market Rasen 2:15 | Cyclop | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:25 | Zapper Cass | ||||||
| Taunton 2:40 | Talking About You | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Cityzen Serg | ||||||
| Thursday 31st Dec | |||||||
| Totals | (£27.50) | £50.00 | |||||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Losing bets | 3 | ||||||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | Winning bets | 5 | |||||
| No Bets | 27 | ||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | |||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £70.00 | £35.10 | ||||
| Week 11 | (£27.50) | £50.00 | £22.50 | ||||
| Totals | (£941.28) | £1,210.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £268.72 | ||||||
Just the three selections tomorrow.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | 4th | 16/1 | 21.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | 3rd | 16/1 | 19.62 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | 5th | 20/1 | 43.73 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | 9th | 15/2 | 9.54 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | 2nd | 7/2 | 4.70 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | 5th | 8/1 | 11.00 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | Fell | 28/1 | 28.01 | No Bet | ||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | 2nd | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | 1st | 5/1 | 6.80 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Sire Du Berlais | 3rd | 11/4 | 4.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | The Storyteller | 2nd | 7/1 | 9.40 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:10 | Notice To Close | 1st | 5/4 | 2.34 | (£13.40) | ||
| Leopardstown 2:25 | Minella Indo | Fell | 5/2 | 3.90 | £10.00 | ||
| Catterick 3:07 | Cudgel | 4th | 7/2 | 5.47 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:05 | Herrinswell | 6th | 6/1 | 7.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 6:35 | Mutabaahy | 7th | 7/1 | 9.27 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | |||||||
| Doncaster 12:00 | The Late Legend | 2nd | 15/2 | 9.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Concertista | 1st | 4/5 | 1.84 | (£8.40) | ||
| Newbury 2:05 | The Cob | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.56 | £10.00 | ||
| Newbury 2:40 | Cuban Pete | 3rd | 7/1 | 9.67 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:50 | Mattie's Mountain | 1st | 7/1 | 11.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:00 | Gabbys Cross | 6th | 3/1 | 4.38 | £10.00 | ||
| Kelso 3:07 | Caliviny | 7th | 9/2 | 7.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:35 | Hollow Games | 1st | 1/2 | 1.57 | (£5.70) | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Sevarano | 4th | 4/1 | 5.57 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Demachine | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.52 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Equus Dancer | U.R. | 8/1 | 10.44 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Bravemansgame | 1st | 5/2 | 3.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Star Gate | 2nd | 5/2 | 3.84 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Wilde About Oscar | 5th | 7/2 | 4.41 | No Bet | ||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | |||||||
| Limerick 1:55 | Fanamix | P.U. | 5/1 | 9.30 | No Bet | ||
| Market Rasen 2:15 | Cyclop | 2nd | 11/4 | 4.20 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 2:25 | Zapper Cass | 9th | 33/1 | 74.80 | No Bet | ||
| Taunton 2:40 | Talking About You | 1st | 2/1 | 3.17 | (£21.70) | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Cityzen Serg | 5th | 100/30 | 5.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 31st Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 2:00 | Fox Duty Free | ||||||
| Punchestown 2:05 | Bachasson | ||||||
| Newcastle 3:20 | Seas Of Elzaam | ||||||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Totals | (£49.20) | £70.00 | |||||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | Losing bets | 4 | |||||
| Winning bets | 7 | ||||||
| No Bets | 29 | ||||||
| Weekly | |||||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | |||||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | ||||
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | ||||
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | ||||
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | ||||
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | ||||
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | ||||
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | ||||
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | ||||
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | ||||
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £70.00 | £35.10 | ||||
| Week 11 | (£49.20) | £70.00 | £20.80 | ||||
| Totals | (£962.98) | £1,230.00 | |||||
| Over all profit | £267.02 | ||||||
Still doing okay then hapsan, today wasn't a complete disaster.
I've been doing some number-crunching of my own today, quite enjoyed it actually but I reckon I'll just slope off back to my football plays.
Will keep looking in though.
Any idea how the_dak's doing?
I've been doing some number-crunching of my own today, quite enjoyed it actually but I reckon I'll just slope off back to my football plays.
Will keep looking in though.
Any idea how the_dak's doing?
0/6 last week
2/6 so far this week
Easy enough to find eric
2/6 so far this week
Easy enough to find eric
Yeah, I DO think about it hatters but .....
Hapsan, I HAVE to ask, I'm confused, seeing some very short-priced "no bets" that won in your tables. How does that work please?
Hapsan, I HAVE to ask, I'm confused, seeing some very short-priced "no bets" that won in your tables. How does that work please?
More than likely 2 or more in race if you check times etc
My apologies to hapsan in advance, didn't think of that, thanks hatters.
BTW, I reckon I'll be giving that novice-laying idea a miss.
What about Mr.Washington in the 2.25 at Warwick tomorrow, does that qualify?
Already done a 3 timer
Spend time looking at the detail
Spend time looking at the detail
Thank’s madhatters,
You’ve answered Eric’s questions for me.
I’m going to start a new thread after this week as the opening post Rules are wrong and confusing.
I have no choice with the amount of “No Bets” on the sheets as I don’t know until the last minute whether they meet the criteria I’ve set out.
It’s a dilemma whether I omit them after the results but it’s handy to have them for reference and prove that controlled gambling with these rules is the right way to go for this particular system.
RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO BIGGER than BFSP 6.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
It’s 26.7 points up over 11 weeks so far and starting with a 20 point bank you could have a lot of fun before you lose it all.
You’ve answered Eric’s questions for me.
I’m going to start a new thread after this week as the opening post Rules are wrong and confusing.
I have no choice with the amount of “No Bets” on the sheets as I don’t know until the last minute whether they meet the criteria I’ve set out.
It’s a dilemma whether I omit them after the results but it’s handy to have them for reference and prove that controlled gambling with these rules is the right way to go for this particular system.
RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO BIGGER than BFSP 6.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
It’s 26.7 points up over 11 weeks so far and starting with a 20 point bank you could have a lot of fun before you lose it all.
Happysandwich
WD with the profit level, it's going well.
More profit than my own thread, albeit a different concept (no limit on selections per day).
Good luck and keep it going in 2021.
Happy New Year to all on the thread.
WD with the profit level, it's going well.
More profit than my own thread, albeit a different concept (no limit on selections per day).
Good luck and keep it going in 2021.
Happy New Year to all on the thread.
A very Happy New Year to all the Hat Trick followers (you know who you are 
).
Of the 3 today one will be over the limit, and Laying a 4/6 & 1/3 will not carry my real money.
Good luck.
Thanks, Andrew
).Of the 3 today one will be over the limit, and Laying a 4/6 & 1/3 will not carry my real money.
Good luck.
Thanks, Andrew
Only 3 selections tomorrow but do NOT Lay Al Boum Photo for real money.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | 4th | 16/1 | 21.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | 3rd | 16/1 | 19.62 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | 5th | 20/1 | 43.73 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | 9th | 15/2 | 9.54 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | 2nd | 7/2 | 4.70 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | 5th | 8/1 | 11.00 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | Fell | 28/1 | 28.01 | No Bet | ||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | 2nd | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | 1st | 5/1 | 6.80 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Sire Du Berlais | 3rd | 11/4 | 4.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | The Storyteller | 2nd | 7/1 | 9.40 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:10 | Notice To Close | 1st | 5/4 | 2.34 | (£13.40) | ||
| Leopardstown 2:25 | Minella Indo | Fell | 5/2 | 3.90 | £10.00 | ||
| Catterick 3:07 | Cudgel | 4th | 7/2 | 5.47 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:05 | Herrinswell | 6th | 6/1 | 7.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 6:35 | Mutabaahy | 7th | 7/1 | 9.27 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | |||||||
| Doncaster 12:00 | The Late Legend | 2nd | 15/2 | 9.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Concertista | 1st | 4/5 | 1.84 | (£8.40) | ||
| Newbury 2:05 | The Cob | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.56 | £10.00 | ||
| Newbury 2:40 | Cuban Pete | 3rd | 7/1 | 9.67 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:50 | Mattie's Mountain | 1st | 7/1 | 11.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:00 | Gabbys Cross | 6th | 3/1 | 4.38 | £10.00 | ||
| Kelso 3:07 | Caliviny | 7th | 9/2 | 7.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:35 | Hollow Games | 1st | 1/2 | 1.57 | (£5.70) | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Sevarano | 4th | 4/1 | 5.57 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Demachine | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.52 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Equus Dancer | U.R. | 8/1 | 10.44 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Bravemansgame | 1st | 5/2 | 3.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Star Gate | 2nd | 5/2 | 3.84 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Wilde About Oscar | 5th | 7/2 | 4.41 | No Bet | ||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | |||||||
| Limerick 1:55 | Fanamix | P.U. | 5/1 | 9.30 | No Bet | ||
| Market Rasen 2:15 | Cyclop | 2nd | 11/4 | 4.20 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 2:25 | Zapper Cass | 9th | 33/1 | 74.80 | No Bet | ||
| Taunton 2:40 | Talking About You | 1st | 2/1 | 3.17 | (£21.70) | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Cityzen Serg | 5th | 100/30 | 5.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 31st Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 2:00 | Fox Duty Free | 1st | 8/13 | 1.82 | (£8.20) | ||
| Punchestown 2:05 | Bachasson | 1st | 30/100 | 1.33 | (£3.30) | ||
| Newcastle 3:20 | Seas Of Elzaam | 5th | 10/1 | 14.70 | No Bet | ||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:15 | Stone Soldier | ||||||
| Exeter 1:40 | Pure Bliss | ||||||
| Tramore 2:37 | Al Boum Photo | ||||||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | |||||||
| Totals | (£60.70) | £70.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 6 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 7 | ||||||
| No Bets | 30 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£60.70) | £70.00 | £9.30 | 6 | 7 | 30 | |
| Totals | (£974.48) | £1,240.00 | 62 | 120 | 173 | ||
| Over all profit | £265.52 | ||||||
Don't these horses usually steam? Might be better to back them early and lay before the off.
I'm confused again.
Now you're not laying hat trick seekers.
Now you're not laying hat trick seekers.
First bet – the first winner of 2021
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Stone Soldier
2.6
£10.00
£16.00
Ref: 220746886522 Matched: 13:14 01-Jan-21
Bet info
Matched bets Consolidate Average odds
Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Stone Soldier
2.6
£10.00
£16.00
Ref: 220746886522 Matched: 13:14 01-Jan-21
Bet info
Matched bets Consolidate Average odds
Why not lay album photo?
Patrick seeker, if it gets beat then u win, if it wins u dont lose many, surely over time u would be better sticking to the rules, if it loses money then do the opposite, sure comms will get I either way
Patrick seeker, if it gets beat then u win, if it wins u dont lose many, surely over time u would be better sticking to the rules, if it loses money then do the opposite, sure comms will get I either way
I would think that if you're following this system with cash butoo, well then the choice is your's, and no the potential loss wouldn't hammer your playing bank balance but: hapsan made the right call with other two and credit to him for that although I do wonder, and album photo really SHOULD win this as he pleases.
Eric,
In answer to your above post.
Anyone who layed Al Boum Photo to lose shouldn’t really be betting.
Back (Bet For)
Odds Stake Profit
Al Boum Photo
1.28
£10.00
£2.80
Ref: 220752355612 Matched: 14:42 01-Jan-21
In answer to your above post.
Anyone who layed Al Boum Photo to lose shouldn’t really be betting.
Back (Bet For)
Odds Stake Profit
Al Boum Photo
1.28
£10.00
£2.80
Ref: 220752355612 Matched: 14:42 01-Jan-21
But your rules are laying hat-trick seekers. Thought this was yo see if u would win taking them on
Tell you what though HAPSAN, seriously, until I saw this thread, not long after you started it, I hadn't looked at the nags for years. You could throw the name of any classic-winner at me from the last ten years and I wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about.
Okay, I understand what handicapping is about from way back but really, I suppose I shouldn't be betting on horses.
Best bet would probably to clear off back to where I came from.
Okay, I understand what handicapping is about from way back but really, I suppose I shouldn't be betting on horses.
Best bet would probably to clear off back to where I came from.
Bullet Tooth,
“But your rules are laying hat-trick seekers. Thought this was yo see if u would win taking them on”
The results & P/L for the last 11 weeks at the bottom of this sheet is my answer to your questions. Think I’ll just leave it there.
Eric,
My advice is to have a 200 point pot and lay them to win 10% of it.
I’m still jogging along nicely on Boris’s £200 Winter Fuel Allowance.
I really am only betting for fun with someone else’s money. Honest.
“But your rules are laying hat-trick seekers. Thought this was yo see if u would win taking them on”
The results & P/L for the last 11 weeks at the bottom of this sheet is my answer to your questions. Think I’ll just leave it there.
Eric,
My advice is to have a 200 point pot and lay them to win 10% of it.
I’m still jogging along nicely on Boris’s £200 Winter Fuel Allowance.
I really am only betting for fun with someone else’s money. Honest.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | 4th | 16/1 | 21.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | 3rd | 16/1 | 19.62 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | 5th | 20/1 | 43.73 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | 9th | 15/2 | 9.54 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | 2nd | 7/2 | 4.70 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | 5th | 8/1 | 11.00 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | Fell | 28/1 | 28.01 | No Bet | ||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | 2nd | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | 1st | 5/1 | 6.80 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Sire Du Berlais | 3rd | 11/4 | 4.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | The Storyteller | 2nd | 7/1 | 9.40 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:10 | Notice To Close | 1st | 5/4 | 2.34 | (£13.40) | ||
| Leopardstown 2:25 | Minella Indo | Fell | 5/2 | 3.90 | £10.00 | ||
| Catterick 3:07 | Cudgel | 4th | 7/2 | 5.47 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:05 | Herrinswell | 6th | 6/1 | 7.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 6:35 | Mutabaahy | 7th | 7/1 | 9.27 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | |||||||
| Doncaster 12:00 | The Late Legend | 2nd | 15/2 | 9.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Concertista | 1st | 4/5 | 1.84 | (£8.40) | ||
| Newbury 2:05 | The Cob | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.56 | £10.00 | ||
| Newbury 2:40 | Cuban Pete | 3rd | 7/1 | 9.67 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:50 | Mattie's Mountain | 1st | 7/1 | 11.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:00 | Gabbys Cross | 6th | 3/1 | 4.38 | £10.00 | ||
| Kelso 3:07 | Caliviny | 7th | 9/2 | 7.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:35 | Hollow Games | 1st | 1/2 | 1.57 | (£5.70) | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Sevarano | 4th | 4/1 | 5.57 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Demachine | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.52 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Equus Dancer | U.R. | 8/1 | 10.44 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Bravemansgame | 1st | 5/2 | 3.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Star Gate | 2nd | 5/2 | 3.84 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Wilde About Oscar | 5th | 7/2 | 4.41 | No Bet | ||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | |||||||
| Limerick 1:55 | Fanamix | P.U. | 5/1 | 9.30 | No Bet | ||
| Market Rasen 2:15 | Cyclop | 2nd | 11/4 | 4.20 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 2:25 | Zapper Cass | 9th | 33/1 | 74.80 | No Bet | ||
| Taunton 2:40 | Talking About You | 1st | 2/1 | 3.17 | (£21.70) | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Cityzen Serg | 5th | 100/30 | 5.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 31st Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 2:00 | Fox Duty Free | 1st | 8/13 | 1.82 | (£8.20) | ||
| Punchestown 2:05 | Bachasson | 1st | 30/100 | 1.33 | (£3.30) | ||
| Newcastle 3:20 | Seas Of Elzaam | 5th | 10/1 | 14.70 | No Bet | ||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:15 | Stone Soldier | 6th | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Tramore 2:37 | Al Boum Photo | 1st | 2/9 | 1.29 | (£2.90) | ||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:30 | Pink Jazz | ||||||
| Sandown 12:40 | Robin Gold | ||||||
| Sandown 2:25 | Metier | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Final Voyage | ||||||
| Totals | (£63.60) | £80.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 7 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 8 | ||||||
| No Bets | 30 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£63.60) | £80.00 | £16.40 | 7 | 8 | 30 | |
| Totals | (£977.38) | £1,250.00 | 63 | 121 | 173 | ||
| Over all profit | £272.62 | ||||||
hapsan, I might just give it a go with a loss-limit as I wait for a football play.
It might just run for a while and keep me from looking at games that I shouldn't be looking at.
Having said that, I'm getting better at sitting on my hands.
As for the stakes, I've thought about that, and I wonder if laying to LOSE the same amount might be better, meaning that my lay stake would rise and fall according tho the odds layed. Yes I'd win less on the bigger priced loses when they lost but I'd lose less when they won. Am I over-thinking this?
Any thoughts on that?
It might just run for a while and keep me from looking at games that I shouldn't be looking at.
Having said that, I'm getting better at sitting on my hands.
As for the stakes, I've thought about that, and I wonder if laying to LOSE the same amount might be better, meaning that my lay stake would rise and fall according tho the odds layed. Yes I'd win less on the bigger priced loses when they lost but I'd lose less when they won. Am I over-thinking this?
Any thoughts on that?
Eric,
Laying to LOSE a set amount is too much messing about.
Just do what I’ve done, put £200 down and kiss it good bye.
Laying to LOSE a set amount is too much messing about.
Just do what I’ve done, put £200 down and kiss it good bye.
hapsan, it was a stupid question anyway, apologies for that. It's something I was looking at with hotpot novices.
Lol,reckon I'll just watch for now and carry on with the football.
Happy, do you only lay a horse that is a hat trick seeker, what about a horse that has won it's last 3 and is going for a 4 timer, is this a lay or a no bet, also if a hat trick seeker and one on a 4 timer in same race do you lay the hat trick seeker or no bet.
clayfield1,
“Happy, do you only lay a horse that is a hat trick seeker”
YES Providing the form is 11 or 01/1
“what about a horse that has won it's last 3 and is going for a 4 timer,”
Just ignore them.
I hit on the idea because I often backed horses that had won their last 2 and they always seemed to lose. Nothing more sinister than that.
One interesting fact is that over the last 11 weeks at no point, if you used a 20 point bank, would you not have been able to carry on.
These are the simple rules :-
RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO BIGGER than BFSP 6.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
“Happy, do you only lay a horse that is a hat trick seeker”
YES Providing the form is 11 or 01/1
“what about a horse that has won it's last 3 and is going for a 4 timer,”
Just ignore them.
I hit on the idea because I often backed horses that had won their last 2 and they always seemed to lose. Nothing more sinister than that.
One interesting fact is that over the last 11 weeks at no point, if you used a 20 point bank, would you not have been able to carry on.
These are the simple rules :-
RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO BIGGER than BFSP 6.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
Happy, so if you have a race with a horse that has won it's last 2 races and one that has won it's last 3 in the same race, would you still lay the horse that had won it's last 2 or would it be a no bet race.
clayfield1,
A horse that has won it’s last 3 races wouldn’t be a Hat Trick Seeker.
3. Two or more horses (Hat Trick Seekers) running in the same race – NO BET
A horse that has won it’s last 3 races wouldn’t be a Hat Trick Seeker.
3. Two or more horses (Hat Trick Seekers) running in the same race – NO BET
Hapsan, why did you not put Bravado in your list? 2.20 at Ling.
I dont see this being the holy grail but will watch with interest.
Suppose u can make a list and then feel whether it's worth the risk like with Al Boum Photo
Suppose u can make a list and then feel whether it's worth the risk like with Al Boum Photo
Happy will get upset at me for pointing this out - but from Page 4:
Latalomne03 Nov 20 11:18Joined: 20 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 32,763 | Blogger: Latalomne's blog
FWIW, without any filtering at all, between 2016 and Sunday, laying all hat-trick seekers (UK & IRE, flat, AW and jumps all lumped together) would have cost you money before commission (at 2% - which for most of us was a pipe dream up until last year). And backing them would have won you money before commission (the longest price winner accounting for 200% of that profit!) but would have lost you money after it.
That should have been that (end of thread) - but there was a "purple patch" just before the thread was started - so like most "systems" a short term positive trend made it look like it was worth pursuing despite the (long-term) facts proving otherwise. If w/c 22nd October hadn't been a massive "outlier" this thread would not even exist.
It's pretty much what deceives all "system chasers" imo - see a short term trend, convince yourself that you are "up" by that amount (even though it was prior to you starting the "system") - spend an age not wanting to believe that you are slowly just reverting to the norm (i.e. losing to commission). If the purple patch (that you didn't actually play) was a really good one, it will take a while to lose the (pretend) profits from the initial period that brought it to your attention. It's been interesting though and if you are a recreational gambler, losing very slowly to commission isn't such a bad thing.
With a £200 bank - betting £10 per selection and (long-term) losing roughly 20 pence (on average) per selection - I suspect the thread will be around for a while.
Latalomne03 Nov 20 11:18Joined: 20 Jul 01 | Topic/replies: 32,763 | Blogger: Latalomne's blog
FWIW, without any filtering at all, between 2016 and Sunday, laying all hat-trick seekers (UK & IRE, flat, AW and jumps all lumped together) would have cost you money before commission (at 2% - which for most of us was a pipe dream up until last year). And backing them would have won you money before commission (the longest price winner accounting for 200% of that profit!) but would have lost you money after it.
That should have been that (end of thread) - but there was a "purple patch" just before the thread was started - so like most "systems" a short term positive trend made it look like it was worth pursuing despite the (long-term) facts proving otherwise. If w/c 22nd October hadn't been a massive "outlier" this thread would not even exist.
It's pretty much what deceives all "system chasers" imo - see a short term trend, convince yourself that you are "up" by that amount (even though it was prior to you starting the "system") - spend an age not wanting to believe that you are slowly just reverting to the norm (i.e. losing to commission). If the purple patch (that you didn't actually play) was a really good one, it will take a while to lose the (pretend) profits from the initial period that brought it to your attention. It's been interesting though and if you are a recreational gambler, losing very slowly to commission isn't such a bad thing.
With a £200 bank - betting £10 per selection and (long-term) losing roughly 20 pence (on average) per selection - I suspect the thread will be around for a while.
Management, I was attracted to this because of my fascination with the numbers involved with handicapping and, it kind of made sense, but, as with football, you have the highs and the lows. "Trends".
I still think that these "hat trick seekers" as with the_dak's contribution, are worth a look but it IS only a starting point.
Thanks for the excerpt from lomne's blog. Adds another, very valid, viewpoint, a sharp reality-check.
I still think that these "hat trick seekers" as with the_dak's contribution, are worth a look but it IS only a starting point.
Thanks for the excerpt from lomne's blog. Adds another, very valid, viewpoint, a sharp reality-check.
Hi Eric - agree it's a starting point - but then again there are thousands of starting points!
You could start with top weights in Handicaps, Horses with Headgear first time, Course and Distance Winners - the list is unlimited! Some will win, some will lose.
But ultimately beyond whatever is your starting point - you will have to exercise some judgement! (imo). That will involve a relationship between the chances of winning (iyo) and the PRICE. Whatever your approach, Grinding out a consistent (long-term) profit will unfortunately never be so simple as "back all of these" or "lay all of those". Have a look at some of Gaze threads if you don't believe me!
You could start with top weights in Handicaps, Horses with Headgear first time, Course and Distance Winners - the list is unlimited! Some will win, some will lose.
But ultimately beyond whatever is your starting point - you will have to exercise some judgement! (imo). That will involve a relationship between the chances of winning (iyo) and the PRICE. Whatever your approach, Grinding out a consistent (long-term) profit will unfortunately never be so simple as "back all of these" or "lay all of those". Have a look at some of Gaze threads if you don't believe me!
Lol! Poor old Gaze, he's a trier.
But I'm in no position to mock.
I have said, many times already, I gave up with the nags years ago.
Even when you get it right, even when owners and trainers get it right, it can go horribly wrong.
Reckon I shall stick with the football.
2 steps forwards and 3 steps back most of the time but I'm hanging in there.
But I'm in no position to mock.
I have said, many times already, I gave up with the nags years ago.
Even when you get it right, even when owners and trainers get it right, it can go horribly wrong.
Reckon I shall stick with the football.
2 steps forwards and 3 steps back most of the time but I'm hanging in there.
I know what you mean Eric - when you say "He's a trier" - but the harsh reality is, that actually, he is not!
He's just another "system chaser" - looking for short cuts, the easy route, a set of simple rules, call it what you like, he's not prepared to put in the work. Ironically, while this is his downfall, it is also his salvation. In so much as - although he comes up with a madcap (lazy and badly thought through) idea every half an hour or so - he abandons them just as quickly as he thinks them up. So he is many things - but he is not a trier!
He's just another "system chaser" - looking for short cuts, the easy route, a set of simple rules, call it what you like, he's not prepared to put in the work. Ironically, while this is his downfall, it is also his salvation. In so much as - although he comes up with a madcap (lazy and badly thought through) idea every half an hour or so - he abandons them just as quickly as he thinks them up. So he is many things - but he is not a trier!
There is nowt wrong with systems...as long as they aren't definite.
You can create lists to back or lay using an system, as long as they are a guide, once you got your list, u learn about the horse, connections etc etc yo be sure it's worth risk and above all the juice is worth the squeeze or in this case
The return is worth the risk, never play because u want an interest or u use the mindset I've put the work in, I may as well play even though the 100 for an 16.00 return is way lower then I expected
U will end up hating the game and yourself if u do this too often.
You can create lists to back or lay using an system, as long as they are a guide, once you got your list, u learn about the horse, connections etc etc yo be sure it's worth risk and above all the juice is worth the squeeze or in this case
The return is worth the risk, never play because u want an interest or u use the mindset I've put the work in, I may as well play even though the 100 for an 16.00 return is way lower then I expected
U will end up hating the game and yourself if u do this too often.
Tony - what you have described sounds much more like "study" than a "system" imo - which was exactly my point.
| WEEK 11 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 27th Dec | |||||||
| Wetherby 1:00 | Demachine | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 1:05 | Equus Dancer | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Chacum Pour Soi | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:10 | Annamix | 4th | 16/1 | 21.00 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 1:30 | Fanamix | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | Keskonrisk | 3rd | 16/1 | 19.62 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:45 | The Devilcoachman | 5th | 20/1 | 43.73 | No Bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 1:50 | A Go Go | 9th | 15/2 | 9.54 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Emmpressive Lady | 2nd | 7/2 | 4.70 | No Bet | ||
| Kempton 1:55 | Bannixtown Glory | 5th | 8/1 | 11.00 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 2:10 | Nuts Well | N.R. | |||||
| Chepstow 2:15 | Exploiteur | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Kempton 3:40 | Faro De Kerser | Fell | 28/1 | 28.01 | No Bet | ||
| Chepstow 3:55 | Volcano | Abandoned | No Bet | ||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | King Of The South | 2nd | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 5:40 | Obtuse | 1st | 5/1 | 6.80 | No Bet | ||
| Monday 28th Dec | |||||||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Sire Du Berlais | 3rd | 11/4 | 4.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | The Storyteller | 2nd | 7/1 | 9.40 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:10 | Notice To Close | 1st | 5/4 | 2.34 | (£13.40) | ||
| Leopardstown 2:25 | Minella Indo | Fell | 5/2 | 3.90 | £10.00 | ||
| Catterick 3:07 | Cudgel | 4th | 7/2 | 5.47 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:05 | Herrinswell | 6th | 6/1 | 7.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 6:35 | Mutabaahy | 7th | 7/1 | 9.27 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 29th Dec | |||||||
| Doncaster 12:00 | The Late Legend | 2nd | 15/2 | 9.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 1:15 | Concertista | 1st | 4/5 | 1.84 | (£8.40) | ||
| Newbury 2:05 | The Cob | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.56 | £10.00 | ||
| Newbury 2:40 | Cuban Pete | 3rd | 7/1 | 9.67 | No Bet | ||
| Limerick 2:50 | Mattie's Mountain | 1st | 7/1 | 11.70 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:00 | Gabbys Cross | 6th | 3/1 | 4.38 | £10.00 | ||
| Kelso 3:07 | Caliviny | 7th | 9/2 | 7.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leopardstown 3:35 | Hollow Games | 1st | 1/2 | 1.57 | (£5.70) | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Sevarano | 4th | 4/1 | 5.57 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Demachine | 3rd | 9/4 | 3.52 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 1:30 | Equus Dancer | U.R. | 8/1 | 10.44 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Bravemansgame | 1st | 5/2 | 3.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Star Gate | 2nd | 5/2 | 3.84 | No Bet | ||
| Newbury 3:15 | Wilde About Oscar | 5th | 7/2 | 4.41 | No Bet | ||
| Wednesday 30th Dec | |||||||
| Limerick 1:55 | Fanamix | P.U. | 5/1 | 9.30 | No Bet | ||
| Market Rasen 2:15 | Cyclop | 2nd | 11/4 | 4.20 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 2:25 | Zapper Cass | 9th | 33/1 | 74.80 | No Bet | ||
| Taunton 2:40 | Talking About You | 1st | 2/1 | 3.17 | (£21.70) | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Cityzen Serg | 5th | 100/30 | 5.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 31st Dec | |||||||
| Lingfield 2:00 | Fox Duty Free | 1st | 8/13 | 1.82 | (£8.20) | ||
| Punchestown 2:05 | Bachasson | 1st | 30/100 | 1.33 | (£3.30) | ||
| Newcastle 3:20 | Seas Of Elzaam | 5th | 10/1 | 14.70 | No Bet | ||
| Friday 1st Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:15 | Stone Soldier | 6th | 6/4 | 2.55 | £10.00 | ||
| Tramore 2:37 | Al Boum Photo | 1st | 2/9 | 1.29 | (£2.90) | ||
| Saturday 2nd Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:30 | Pink Jazz | 8th | 6/1 | 7.79 | No Bet | ||
| Sandown 12:40 | Robin Gold | 3rd | 12/1 | 16.5 | No Bet | ||
| Sandown 2:25 | Metier | 1st | 7/4 | 2.98 | (£19.80) | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:10 | Final Voyage | 1st | 5/6 | 1.92 | (£9.20) | ||
| Totals | (£92.60) | £80.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 9 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 8 | ||||||
| No Bets | 32 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Totals | (£1,006.38) | £1,250.00 | 65 | 121 | 175 | ||
| Over all profit | £243.62 | ||||||
Why didn't bravado make the Cut?
The management u should always study as part of any bet, system can be used to point to those that should be studied imo
The management u should always study as part of any bet, system can be used to point to those that should be studied imo
Agree with that Tony - If I was looking at a list of Hatrick-Seekers - I would probably want to back some (depending on the price) and Lay some (depending on the price). We already know that backing all of them (Over time) or Laying all of them (Over time) will both result in eventually just losing to commission (especially if you do it to BFSP). A combination of Backing the right ones (at the right price) and laying the right ones (at the right price) would be the only way (long term) to make a profit. Lists are fine - systems are a waste of time!
To that end - you don't really need the list of Hatrick Seekers in the first place - the list could actually be anything and might just as well be the race-card!
To that end - you don't really need the list of Hatrick Seekers in the first place - the list could actually be anything and might just as well be the race-card!
Management you are absolutely correct on all counts. You just told why most of us, yourself not included, I suspect, are losers.
I suppose, at first glance, it looks easy and the fact that many see professional gamblers as the "money for nothing club" riles me greatly.
There so much to know,learn and make sense of.
Back in the day, for me, the handicap system was the be all and end all, and yes, I burned some oil. Failed miserably of course, accepted my failings and put it behind me. I didn't ever, would never, jeopardize the payments of rent/bills etc. that may be why I shall never get ahead of the game, the bottom line is that, by nature, I'm not a risk-taker. So credit to those who actually DO make money out of it.
I suppose, at first glance, it looks easy and the fact that many see professional gamblers as the "money for nothing club" riles me greatly.
There so much to know,learn and make sense of.
Back in the day, for me, the handicap system was the be all and end all, and yes, I burned some oil. Failed miserably of course, accepted my failings and put it behind me. I didn't ever, would never, jeopardize the payments of rent/bills etc. that may be why I shall never get ahead of the game, the bottom line is that, by nature, I'm not a risk-taker. So credit to those who actually DO make money out of it.
Eric - the glory days are long gone (2000 till about 2006 for me). Anyone making a substantial/worthwhile wage on here now is effectively working for Betfair (whether they know it or not). If you can make it pay on here (post PC), then in all likelihood you could be making a lot more using your talents in the real world!
My favourite poster from years ago was a guy called Lori (on General Betting) and one of his "quotes" that stuck with me was to the effect - "I never cease to amaze myself at how hard I am prepared to work in order to avoid having to work." There is a lot of truth in that imo. GL.
My favourite poster from years ago was a guy called Lori (on General Betting) and one of his "quotes" that stuck with me was to the effect - "I never cease to amaze myself at how hard I am prepared to work in order to avoid having to work." There is a lot of truth in that imo. GL.
one for eric to look at (all four won today) https://www.punterslounge.com/tips/free-horse-racing-tips
| WEEK 12 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 3rd Jan | |||||||
| Catterick 12:27 | Bareback Jack | 1st | 4/9 | 1.51 | (£5.10) | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Delvino | 4th | 7/2 | 5.70 | No bet | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Royal Kahala | 1st | 3/1 | 4.49 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 1:53 | Annual Invictus | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | (£6.40) | ||
| Fairyhouse 2:15 | Ballyshannon Rose | 1st | 13/2 | 9.23 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Benevolentdictator | 3rd | 9/2 | 7.00 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Seaston Spirit | 1st | 6/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | ||||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Totals | (£11.50) | £0.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 2 | ||||||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | Winning bets | 0 | |||||
| No Bets | 5 | ||||||
| Thursday 7th Jan | |||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| Friday 8th Jan | week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Saturday 9th Jan | Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£11.50) | £0.00 | (£11.50) | ||||
| Totals | (£1,017.88) | £1,250.00 | 65 | 121 | 175 | ||
| Over all profit | £232.12 | ||||||
hatters, I was replying to his "all four won today" post.
Oh, okay. I don't do tipping websites, I wouldn't know.
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | N.R. | |||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | 6th | 5/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | 1st | 7/4 | 3.21 | (£22.10) | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | 4th | 7/2 | 4.49 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | N.R. | |||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 3:10 | Passional | ||||||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | Hector's Here | ||||||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | |||||||
| Totals | (£33.60) | £10.00 |
| WEEK 12 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 3rd Jan | |||||||
| Catterick 12:27 | Bareback Jack | 1st | 4/9 | 1.51 | (£5.10) | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Delvino | 4th | 7/2 | 5.70 | No bet | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Royal Kahala | 1st | 3/1 | 4.49 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 1:53 | Annual Invictus | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | (£6.40) | ||
| Fairyhouse 2:15 | Ballyshannon Rose | 1st | 13/2 | 9.23 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Benevolentdictator | 3rd | 9/2 | 7.00 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Seaston Spirit | 1st | 6/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | N.R. | |||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | 6th | 5/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | 1st | 7/4 | 3.21 | (£22.10) | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | 4th | 7/2 | 4.49 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | N.R. | |||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 3:10 | Passional | 1st | 8/15 | 1.55 | (£5.50) | ||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | Hector's Here | 6th | 3/1 | 4.70 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | |||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:20 | Sir Hector | ||||||
| Kempton 6:45 | Amberama Gold | ||||||
| Thursday 7th Jan | |||||||
| Totals | (£39.10) | £20.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 4 | ||||||
| Friday 8th Jan | Winning bets | 2 | |||||
| No Bets | 6 | ||||||
| Saturday 9th Jan | Weekly | Losing | Winning | ||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £20.00 | (£19.10) | 4 | 2 | 6 | |
| Totals | (£1,045.48) | £1,270.00 | 69 | 123 | 181 | ||
| Over all profit | £224.52 | ||||||
| WEEK 12 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 3rd Jan | |||||||
| Catterick 12:27 | Bareback Jack | 1st | 4/9 | 1.51 | (£5.10) | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Delvino | 4th | 7/2 | 5.70 | No bet | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Royal Kahala | 1st | 3/1 | 4.49 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 1:53 | Annual Invictus | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | (£6.40) | ||
| Fairyhouse 2:15 | Ballyshannon Rose | 1st | 13/2 | 9.23 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Benevolentdictator | 3rd | 9/2 | 7.00 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Seaston Spirit | 1st | 6/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | N.R. | |||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | 6th | 5/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | 1st | 7/4 | 3.21 | (£22.10) | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | 4th | 7/2 | 4.49 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | N.R. | |||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 3:10 | Passional | 1st | 8/15 | 1.55 | (£5.50) | ||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | Hector's Here | 6th | 3/1 | 4.70 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | |||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:20 | Sir Hector | 3rd | 9/2 | 6.20 | No bet | ||
| Kempton 6:45 | Amberama Gold | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 7th Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:45 | Olivers Pursuit | ||||||
| Clonmel 3:50 | Ask D'man | ||||||
| Friday 8th Jan | |||||||
| Newcastle 2:40 | Soo | ||||||
| Taunton 2:00 | Masters Legacy | Totals | (£39.10) | £30.00 | |||
| Taunton 4:00 | I Like To Move It | ||||||
| Dundalk 3:55 | Dandy Spririt | Losing bets | 4 | ||||
| Dundalk 5:00 | Kudbegood | Winning bets | 3 | ||||
| No Bets | 7 | ||||||
| Saturday 9th Jan | Weekly | Losing | Winning | ||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £30.00 | (£9.10) | 4 | 2 | 6 | |
| Totals | (£1,045.48) | £1,280.00 | 69 | 123 | 181 | ||
| Over all profit | £234.52 |
System going well - don't send anymore cash.
| WEEK 12 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 3rd Jan | |||||||
| Catterick 12:27 | Bareback Jack | 1st | 4/9 | 1.51 | (£5.10) | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Delvino | 4th | 7/2 | 5.70 | No bet | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Royal Kahala | 1st | 3/1 | 4.49 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 1:53 | Annual Invictus | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | (£6.40) | ||
| Fairyhouse 2:15 | Ballyshannon Rose | 1st | 13/2 | 9.23 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Benevolentdictator | 3rd | 9/2 | 7.00 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Seaston Spirit | 1st | 6/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | N.R. | |||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | 6th | 5/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | 1st | 7/4 | 3.21 | (£22.10) | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | 4th | 7/2 | 4.49 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | N.R. | |||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 3:10 | Passional | 1st | 8/15 | 1.55 | (£5.50) | ||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | Hector's Here | 6th | 3/1 | 4.70 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | |||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:20 | Sir Hector | 3rd | 9/2 | 6.20 | No bet | ||
| Kempton 6:45 | Amberama Gold | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 7th Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:45 | Olivers Pursuit | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Clonmel 3:50 | Ask D'man | CANCELLED | |||||
| Friday 8th Jan | |||||||
| Newcastle 2:40 | Soo | ||||||
| Dundalk 3:55 | Dandy Spririt | ||||||
| Dundalk 5:00 | Kudbegood | ||||||
| Saturday 9th Jan | |||||||
| Totals | (£39.10) | £40.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 4 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 4 | ||||||
| No Bets | 7 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £40.00 | £0.90 | 4 | 2 | 6 | |
| Totals | (£1,045.48) | £1,290.00 | 69 | 123 | 181 | ||
| Over all profit | £244.52 | ||||||
With Onthefrontfoot pulled out of the Newcastle 14:40 I personally will NOT be betting on Sao to lose the race.
Especially having watched a video of his last win, where the rider twice took a long look behind him on the run in.
Remember the old saying “You don’t need to bet”.
The result will be on the sheet though.
Especially having watched a video of his last win, where the rider twice took a long look behind him on the run in.
Remember the old saying “You don’t need to bet”.
The result will be on the sheet though.
| WEEK 12 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 3rd Jan | |||||||
| Catterick 12:27 | Bareback Jack | 1st | 4/9 | 1.51 | (£5.10) | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Delvino | 4th | 7/2 | 5.70 | No bet | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Royal Kahala | 1st | 3/1 | 4.49 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 1:53 | Annual Invictus | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | (£6.40) | ||
| Fairyhouse 2:15 | Ballyshannon Rose | 1st | 13/2 | 9.23 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Benevolentdictator | 3rd | 9/2 | 7.00 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Seaston Spirit | 1st | 6/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | N.R. | |||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | 6th | 5/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | 1st | 7/4 | 3.21 | (£22.10) | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | 4th | 7/2 | 4.49 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | N.R. | |||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 3:10 | Passional | 1st | 8/15 | 1.55 | (£5.50) | ||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | Hector's Here | 6th | 3/1 | 4.70 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | |||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:20 | Sir Hector | 3rd | 9/2 | 6.20 | No bet | ||
| Kempton 6:45 | Amberama Gold | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 7th Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:45 | Olivers Pursuit | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Clonmel 3:50 | Ask D'man | CANCELLED | |||||
| Friday 8th Jan | |||||||
| Newcastle 2:40 | Sao | 5th | 4/5 | 1.87 | £10.00 | ||
| Dundalk 3:55 | Dandy Spririt | 3rd | 11/8 | 2.66 | £10.00 | ||
| Dundalk 5:00 | Kudbegood | 2nd | 9/2 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Saturday 9th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:30 | Subliminal | ||||||
| Kempton 12:35 | Barbados Bucks | ||||||
| Kempton 12:35 | Bobhopeornohope | ||||||
| Kempton 12:35 | Undersupervision | ||||||
| Chepstow 12:50 | Exploiteur | ||||||
| Fairyhouse 1:17 | Percy Warner | ||||||
| Chepstow 1:25 | Nassalam | ||||||
| Wincanton 2:05 | Protektorat | ||||||
| Lingfield 2:15 | Autumn War | ||||||
| Kempton 3:30 | Misty Whisky | ||||||
| Kempton 3:30 | The White Mouse | ||||||
| Chelmsford 3:40 | Bad Attitude | ||||||
| Kempton 3:57 | Fransham | ||||||
| Totals | (£39.10) | £60.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 4 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 6 | ||||||
| No Bets | 8 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £60.00 | £20.90 | 4 | 2 | 6 | |
| Totals | (£1,045.48) | £1,310.00 | 69 | 123 | 181 | ||
| Over all profit | £264.52 | ||||||
I’m going to start a new thread starting tomorrow Sunday 10th January.
Partly because I want the BFSP limit 6.00 rules on the first page of the thread.
“Happy’s Hat Trick Seekers”.
Partly because I want the BFSP limit 6.00 rules on the first page of the thread.
“Happy’s Hat Trick Seekers”.
| WEEK 12 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 3rd Jan | |||||||
| Catterick 12:27 | Bareback Jack | 1st | 4/9 | 1.51 | (£5.10) | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Delvino | 4th | 7/2 | 5.70 | No bet | ||
| Fairyhouse 1:10 | Royal Kahala | 1st | 3/1 | 4.49 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 1:53 | Annual Invictus | 1st | 4/7 | 1.64 | (£6.40) | ||
| Fairyhouse 2:15 | Ballyshannon Rose | 1st | 13/2 | 9.23 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Benevolentdictator | 3rd | 9/2 | 7.00 | No bet | ||
| Plumpton 2:25 | Seaston Spirit | 1st | 6/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Monday 4th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 1:40 | Anisoptera | N.R. | |||||
| Wolverhampton 5:50 | Richard R H B | 6th | 5/1 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Wolverhampton 6:20 | Amniarix | 1st | 7/4 | 3.21 | (£22.10) | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Trevie Fountain | 4th | 7/2 | 4.49 | £10.00 | ||
| Wolverhampton 7:50 | Revolutiomary Man | N.R. | |||||
| Tuesday 5th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 3:10 | Passional | 1st | 8/15 | 1.55 | (£5.50) | ||
| Wolverhampton 4:40 | Hector's Here | 6th | 3/1 | 4.70 | £10.00 | ||
| Wednesday 6th Jan | |||||||
| Wolverhampton 2:20 | Sir Hector | 3rd | 9/2 | 6.20 | No bet | ||
| Kempton 6:45 | Amberama Gold | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Thursday 7th Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 1:45 | Olivers Pursuit | 5th | 3/1 | 4.30 | £10.00 | ||
| Clonmel 3:50 | Ask D'man | CANCELLED | |||||
| Friday 8th Jan | |||||||
| Newcastle 2:40 | Sao | 5th | 4/5 | 1.87 | £10.00 | ||
| Dundalk 3:55 | Dandy Spririt | 3rd | 11/8 | 2.66 | £10.00 | ||
| Dundalk 5:00 | Kudbegood | 2nd | 9/2 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Saturday 9th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:30 | Subliminal | 2nd | 100/30 | 4.90 | £10.00 | ||
| Kempton 12:35 | Barbados Bucks | 1st | 3.24 | No bet | |||
| Kempton 12:35 | Bobhopeornohope | N.R. | |||||
| Kempton 12:35 | Undersupervision | 15.90 | No bet | ||||
| Chepstow 12:50 | Exploiteur | 3rd | 16/5 | 4.59 | £10.00 | ||
| Chepstow 1:25 | Nassalam | 2nd | Evens | 2.28 | £10.00 | ||
| Wincanton 2:05 | Protektorat | 2nd | 1/2 | 1.57 | £10.00 | ||
| Lingfield 2:15 | Autumn War | N.R. | |||||
| Kempton 3:30 | Misty Whisky | 2nd | 10/1 | 14.00 | No bet | ||
| Kempton 3:30 | The White Mouse | 8th | 11/1 | 11.90 | No bet | ||
| Chelmsford 3:40 | Bad Attitude | 6th | 13/2 | 7.60 | No bet | ||
| Kempton 3:57 | Fransham | 3rd | 8/1 | 11.50 | No bet | ||
| Weekly Totals | (£39.10) | £100.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 4 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 10 | ||||||
| No Bets | 14 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £100.00 | £60.90 | 4 | 2 | 6 | |
| Totals | (£1,045.48) | £1,350.00 | 69 | 123 | 181 | ||
| Over all profit | £304.52 | ||||||
Just the one Lay bet today Southwell 12:50 Nortonthorrpe Boy.
happysandwich09 Jan 21 17:25Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 2,521 | Blogger: happysandwich's blog
I’m going to start a new thread starting tomorrow Sunday 10th January.
Partly because I want the BFSP limit 6.00 rules on the first page of the thread.
Pleased to hear it Happy - I think for the integrity of the thread - you need to start from scratch. To keep it honest, you really should start afresh every time you introduce a new filter.
I think you definitely need to remove the purple patch at the beginning of this thread (first 3 weeks?) because it is essentially "back-fitted". i.e. You introduced a new rule but rather than start again at that point, you applied that new rule/filter to past results.
Also; I know you laughed dismissively at the last guy to suggest this (I think it was wondersobright) - but I think you need to start paying commission on your winning bets like the rest of us! - You are up to £27.00 in unpaid commission so far (obviously a bit less than that if you remove all the back-fitted selections).
I’m going to start a new thread starting tomorrow Sunday 10th January.
Partly because I want the BFSP limit 6.00 rules on the first page of the thread.
Pleased to hear it Happy - I think for the integrity of the thread - you need to start from scratch. To keep it honest, you really should start afresh every time you introduce a new filter.
I think you definitely need to remove the purple patch at the beginning of this thread (first 3 weeks?) because it is essentially "back-fitted". i.e. You introduced a new rule but rather than start again at that point, you applied that new rule/filter to past results.
Also; I know you laughed dismissively at the last guy to suggest this (I think it was wondersobright) - but I think you need to start paying commission on your winning bets like the rest of us! - You are up to £27.00 in unpaid commission so far (obviously a bit less than that if you remove all the back-fitted selections).
The Management,
Having read your above comments about keeping the thread honest and not “back fitting” I’ve decided not to continue the thread, I find your comments too offensive.
As for not declaring up to £27 unpaid commission, I’ll let others be the judge of that.
I started this thread purely for a bit of fun and to give myself and others a bit of interest and something to do while in “lock down”.
I think I achieved that, but there’s always one.
Having read your above comments about keeping the thread honest and not “back fitting” I’ve decided not to continue the thread, I find your comments too offensive.
As for not declaring up to £27 unpaid commission, I’ll let others be the judge of that.
I started this thread purely for a bit of fun and to give myself and others a bit of interest and something to do while in “lock down”.
I think I achieved that, but there’s always one.
That's your choice Happy - I'm struggling to believe that you find my comments too offensive to continue.
More likely it has dawned on you that without the back-fitting (and paying commission) that you are treading water - which is pretty much what you were told would happen way back at the beginning by people that had very kindly (imo) back-fitted you filters for you over many years results and told you that it was a waste of time. Pleased you had fun.
More likely it has dawned on you that without the back-fitting (and paying commission) that you are treading water - which is pretty much what you were told would happen way back at the beginning by people that had very kindly (imo) back-fitted you filters for you over many years results and told you that it was a waste of time. Pleased you had fun.
To be fair:
Hapsan HAS provided a source of interest, and, if followed to the letter, wouldn't have broken the bank, so what the hell? No harm done.
Being a failed horse-backer it HAD to draw my interest, I could see some logic in the reasoning.
Yes, really.
The managment provided the reality check, harsh but true, and alas, once again, I have to admit, there is no "one size fits all", As for systems? Well, one can but dream.
Also, hapsan, you seem to be not laying some of those qualifying selections.
No offence intended here , no-one would like to see this fly more than I would but a hat trick seeker is precisely that.
A very happy and prosperous 21 to you all.
Hapsan HAS provided a source of interest, and, if followed to the letter, wouldn't have broken the bank, so what the hell? No harm done.
Being a failed horse-backer it HAD to draw my interest, I could see some logic in the reasoning.
Yes, really.
The managment provided the reality check, harsh but true, and alas, once again, I have to admit, there is no "one size fits all", As for systems? Well, one can but dream.
Also, hapsan, you seem to be not laying some of those qualifying selections.
No offence intended here , no-one would like to see this fly more than I would but a hat trick seeker is precisely that.
A very happy and prosperous 21 to you all.
Happy - I've been busy with the Southwell festival of racing, so here is a fuller response to your "taking offence" at my comments:
In terms of my remarks causing you offence - I apologise unreservedly if that is truly the case - But I think it is much more likely that I have given you the "out" that you were looking. Either way, these are the (completely inoffensive) facts:
The commission is just a fact of life - there is nothing offensive about it - unfortunately everybody pays commission on their winning bets. If it weren't for the pesky commission, I could give you a million "winning systems" - but then again, without the commission Betfair wouldn't exist! A great many BF customers are likely just slowly losing to commission. In reality, you just have to pay it and unfortunately in reality it mounts up over time!
Regarding back-fitting - that's just a fact too - you decided to introduce a price cap of 6.00 (utterly pointless but fair enough it's your perogative) - but once you apply that to historic results - yes - I'm afraid it's just back-fitting!
Despite people very kindly demonstrating to you (inarguably) that laying hatrick seekers (nor backing them either for that matter!) wasn't a "goer" - I think the (short term variance of) weeks 1-3 unfortunately deceived you into believing that laying Hatrick seekers had some legs in the longer term. I suspect if there had been a decent profit (short term variance) in BACKING hatrick seekers in weeks 1-3, we would have had a backing hatrick seekers thread instead! - Unfortunately it would have gone the same way - the reality of the ACTUAL long-term future results would eventually cancel out the (fictional) back-fitted profits - maybe after treading water for a while.
FWIW - If you discount the first 3 weeks (with the back-fitted price limit) and pay commission like the rest of us - at a quick glance you are still about 12 points up over the 12 weeks. However 4 of those 8 points were achieved yesterday. Which I think proves my point!
So the shocking offence that my remarks have caused you - has probably done you a favour in terms of using your time more productively. GL.
In terms of my remarks causing you offence - I apologise unreservedly if that is truly the case - But I think it is much more likely that I have given you the "out" that you were looking. Either way, these are the (completely inoffensive) facts:
The commission is just a fact of life - there is nothing offensive about it - unfortunately everybody pays commission on their winning bets. If it weren't for the pesky commission, I could give you a million "winning systems" - but then again, without the commission Betfair wouldn't exist! A great many BF customers are likely just slowly losing to commission. In reality, you just have to pay it and unfortunately in reality it mounts up over time!
Regarding back-fitting - that's just a fact too - you decided to introduce a price cap of 6.00 (utterly pointless but fair enough it's your perogative) - but once you apply that to historic results - yes - I'm afraid it's just back-fitting!
Despite people very kindly demonstrating to you (inarguably) that laying hatrick seekers (nor backing them either for that matter!) wasn't a "goer" - I think the (short term variance of) weeks 1-3 unfortunately deceived you into believing that laying Hatrick seekers had some legs in the longer term. I suspect if there had been a decent profit (short term variance) in BACKING hatrick seekers in weeks 1-3, we would have had a backing hatrick seekers thread instead! - Unfortunately it would have gone the same way - the reality of the ACTUAL long-term future results would eventually cancel out the (fictional) back-fitted profits - maybe after treading water for a while.
FWIW - If you discount the first 3 weeks (with the back-fitted price limit) and pay commission like the rest of us - at a quick glance you are still about 12 points up over the 12 weeks. However 4 of those 8 points were achieved yesterday. Which I think proves my point!
So the shocking offence that my remarks have caused you - has probably done you a favour in terms of using your time more productively. GL.
Hatrick Seeker - The Golden Rebel wins the 13:05 Doncaster at 50/1 (BFSP) - It would have been a good day to start a Hatrick Seeker Backing thread - Set a price cap - has to be minimum of 14/1 and above - it will take a good few months to erode the (pretend) profits imo.
- Set a price cap - has to be minimum of 14/1 and above - it will take a good few months to erode the (pretend) profits imo.
I'm sure that, as with my comments, there has been no offence intended.
Not so much criticisms as genuinely sincere observations.
We're all wanting the same thing here but, as we all know, if you put up any back or lay proposition, it's there to be shot at.
We, I would hope, merely seek to discuss the failings, AS WELL AS THE SUCCESSES, the wheres and the why-fores and, if nothing else hapsan, you've given me much to ponder at a time when I was sitting here bored witless.
Not so much criticisms as genuinely sincere observations.
We're all wanting the same thing here but, as we all know, if you put up any back or lay proposition, it's there to be shot at.
We, I would hope, merely seek to discuss the failings, AS WELL AS THE SUCCESSES, the wheres and the why-fores and, if nothing else hapsan, you've given me much to ponder at a time when I was sitting here bored witless.
| WEEK 13 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 10th Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 12:50 | Nortonthorrpe Bay | 2nd | 85/40 | 3.29 | £10.00 | ||
| Monday 11th Jan | |||||||
| Doncaster 1:05 | The Golden Rebel | 1st | 33/1 | 50.70 | No Bet | ||
| Doncaster 2:05 | L'Incorrigible | 2nd | 11/8 | 2.65 | £10.00 | ||
| Hereford 2:20 | Volcano | 4th | 9/2 | 6.14 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 12th Jan | |||||||
| Fairyhouse 1:20 | Percy Warner | 1st | 11/4 | 4.35 | (£33.50) | ||
| Wetherby 3:10 | Little Red Lion | Fell | 6/1 | 8.02 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 3:10 | Ecossais | 3rd | 11/2 | 8.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 5:00 | Royal Birth | 12.40 | No Bet | ||||
| Newcastle 5:30 | Count Of Amazonia | 2nd | 9/4 | 3.54 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:30 | Deolali | N.R. | |||||
| Wednesday 13th Jan | |||||||
| Naas 1:20 | Farmix | 4th | 28/1 | 42.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leicester 2:10 | Zambella | 1st | 8/13 | 1.68 | No Bet | ||
| Leicester 2:10 | Sacre Coeur | U.R. | 15/2 | 10.70 | No Bet | ||
| Naas 2:20 | Ashdale Bob | Fell | 9/2 | 6.39 | No Bet | ||
| Plumpton 3:30 | High Up In The Air | 1st | 5/6 | 1.96 | (£9.60) | ||
| Kempton 8:20 | Capricorn Prince | 11th | 25/1 | 34.00 | No Bet | ||
| Thursday 14th Jan | |||||||
| Fontwell 2:30 | Cristal Spririt | P.U. | 7/4 | 2.57 | £10.00 | ||
| Chelmsford 8:00 | No Nay Bella | 7th | 11/4 | 3.96 | £10.00 | ||
| Friday 15th Jan | |||||||
| Huntingdon 2:30 | Pure Bliss | ||||||
| Newcastle 2:40 | Anif | ||||||
| Newcastle 3:10 | Oo De Lally | ||||||
| Saturday 16th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:45 | Café Sydney | ||||||
| Lingfield 3:45 | Nick Vedder | ||||||
| Market Rasen 1:30 | Deebaj | ||||||
| Market Rasen 1:30 | Cristal Spririt | ||||||
| Market Rasen 2:05 | Masters Legacy | ||||||
| Market Rasen 3:15 | Miss Lamb | ||||||
| Fairryhouse 1:40 | Hear No Evil | ||||||
| Fairryhouse 2:15 | Chatham Street Lad | ||||||
| Warwick 2:25 | Adrimel | ||||||
| Warwick 2:25 | Optimise Prime | ||||||
| Warwick 3:00 | Nearly Perfect | ||||||
| Warwick 3:00 | Storm Control | ||||||
| Kempton 7:20 | Inaam | ||||||
| Kempton 7:20 | Revolutionary Man | ||||||
| Kempton 7:20 | Nick Vedder | ||||||
| Weekly Totals | (£43.10) | £50.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 2 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 5 | ||||||
| No Bets | 10 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| Week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| Week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| Week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| Week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| Week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| Week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £100.00 | £60.90 | 4 | 10 | 14 | |
| Week 13 | (£43.10) | £50.00 | £6.90 | 2 | 5 | 10 | |
| Totals | (£1,088.58) | £1,400.00 | 71 | 136 | 199 | ||
| Overall profit | £311.42 | ||||||
Waited until the last minute and watched Café Sydney drift to 6.40 and win (6.00 Limit), so dodged a bullet there
Saved myself £54.
Saved myself £54.
Happy it seems like you make the rules up as you go along, Why wouldn't you want to lay one(café Sydney) at the lowest possible price.
clayfield1 - How very dare you!?
Offence will be caused and toys will be jettisoned from prams imo
Offence will be caused and toys will be jettisoned from prams imo
clayfield1,
Please check every selection over the last 13 weeks against these rules.
Thanks for your input.
RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO bigger than BFSP 6.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
Please check every selection over the last 13 weeks against these rules.
Thanks for your input.
RULES
1. Lay any horse that is going for a hat trick at odds NO bigger than BFSP 6.00
2. Anything bigger than BFSP 6.00 – NO BET
3. Two or more horses running in the same race – NO BET
4. Lay to win a fixed amount e.g. £10
| WEEK 13 | |||||||
| Horse Name | Position | Odds | BFSP | Lost | Won | No Bets | |
| Sunday 10th Jan | |||||||
| Southwell 12:50 | Nortonthorrpe Bay | 2nd | 85/40 | 3.29 | £10.00 | ||
| Monday 11th Jan | |||||||
| Doncaster 1:05 | The Golden Rebel | 1st | 33/1 | 50.70 | No Bet | ||
| Doncaster 2:05 | L'Incorrigible | 2nd | 11/8 | 2.65 | £10.00 | ||
| Hereford 2:20 | Volcano | 4th | 9/2 | 6.14 | No Bet | ||
| Tuesday 12th Jan | |||||||
| Fairyhouse 1:20 | Percy Warner | 1st | 11/4 | 4.35 | (£33.50) | ||
| Wetherby 3:10 | Little Red Lion | Fell | 6/1 | 8.02 | No Bet | ||
| Wetherby 3:10 | Ecossais | 3rd | 11/2 | 8.60 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 5:00 | Royal Birth | 12.40 | No Bet | ||||
| Newcastle 5:30 | Count Of Amazonia | 2nd | 9/4 | 3.54 | £10.00 | ||
| Newcastle 6:30 | Deolali | N.R. | |||||
| Wednesday 13th Jan | |||||||
| Naas 1:20 | Farmix | 4th | 28/1 | 42.00 | No Bet | ||
| Leicester 2:10 | Zambella | 1st | 8/13 | 1.68 | No Bet | ||
| Leicester 2:10 | Sacre Coeur | U.R. | 15/2 | 10.70 | No Bet | ||
| Naas 2:20 | Ashdale Bob | Fell | 9/2 | 6.39 | No Bet | ||
| Plumpton 3:30 | High Up In The Air | 1st | 5/6 | 1.96 | (£9.60) | ||
| Kempton 8:20 | Capricorn Prince | 11th | 25/1 | 34.00 | No Bet | ||
| Thursday 14th Jan | |||||||
| Fontwell 2:30 | Cristal Spririt | P.U. | 7/4 | 2.57 | £10.00 | ||
| Chelmsford 8:00 | No Nay Bella | 7th | 11/4 | 3.96 | £10.00 | ||
| Friday 15th Jan | |||||||
| Newcastle 2:40 | Anif | 5th | 15/2 | 10.40 | No Bet | ||
| Newcastle 3:10 | Oo De Lally | 1st | 4/6 | 1.74 | (£7.40) | ||
| Saturday 16th Jan | |||||||
| Lingfield 11:45 | Café Sydney | 1st | 4/1 | 6.40 | No Bet | ||
| Fairryhouse 2:15 | Chatham Street Lad | 3rd | 7/4 | 3.39 | £10.00 | ||
| Warwick 2:25 | Adrimel | 1st | 7/2 | 5.10 | No Bet | ||
| Warwick 2:25 | Optimise Prime | N.R. | |||||
| Warwick 2:25 | Pure Bliss | 6th | 9/1 | 10.30 | No Bet | ||
| Warwick 3:00 | Storm Control | 7th | 11/2 | 8.09 | No Bet | ||
| Market Rasen 3:15 | Miss Lamb | 2nd | 22/1 | 24.40 | No Bet | ||
| Weekly Totals | (£50.50) | £60.00 | |||||
| Losing bets | 3 | ||||||
| Winning bets | 6 | ||||||
| No Bets | 16 | ||||||
| Weekly | Losing | Winning | |||||
| Lost | Won | Profit | Bets | Bets | No Bets | ||
| Week 1 | (£28.90) | £140.00 | £111.10 | 3 | 14 | 6 | |
| Week 2 | (£73.38) | £110.00 | £36.62 | 4 | 11 | 4 | |
| Week 3 | (£40.70) | £90.00 | £49.30 | 4 | 9 | 10 | |
| Week 4 | (£123.60) | £120.00 | (£3.60) | 7 | 12 | 30 | |
| Week 5 | (£192.90) | £140.00 | (£52.90) | 10 | 14 | 9 | |
| Week 6 | (£115.70) | £100.00 | (£15.70) | 7 | 6 | 8 | |
| Week 7 | (£83.60) | £180.00 | £96.40 | 6 | 18 | 24 | |
| Week 8 | (£84.70) | £90.00 | £5.30 | 5 | 9 | 20 | |
| Week 9 | (£135.40) | £120.00 | (£15.40) | 7 | 12 | 18 | |
| Week 10 | (£34.90) | £80.00 | £45.10 | 3 | 8 | 14 | |
| Week 11 | (£92.60) | £80.00 | (£12.60) | 9 | 8 | 32 | |
| Week 12 | (£39.10) | £100.00 | £60.90 | 4 | 10 | 14 | |
| Week 13 | (£50.50) | £60.00 | £9.50 | 3 | 6 | 16 | |
| Totals | (£1,095.98) | £1,410.00 | 72 | 137 | 205 | ||
| Overall profit | £314.02 | ||||||
AIS and Happysarnie in full flow with their emboldening on names on this thread despite the protestation and claim by AIS that he randomly emboldens the names.
Anyone met this happysarnie bloke?
AIs doesn't embolden HP's name on this thread simply because he is talking to himself.
No other poster, no other pair of posters embolden other posters names on this forum. Period!
Anyone met this happysarnie bloke?
AIs doesn't embolden HP's name on this thread simply because he is talking to himself.
No other poster, no other pair of posters embolden other posters names on this forum. Period!
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