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15 Jun 20 19:38
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Tote - change to place term rules for pool betting at Royal Ascot

Please be aware that due to the inclusion of world pool bettors(Hong Kong etc), The Tote have altered the place terms for bets during Royal Ascot.

Perhaps the main difference is that a 4th place finish in a 16+ runner handicap will mean you are out of the placepot. Likewise don't throw your ticket away if you are 3rd in a 7 runner race you would still be in

Worth a read of their rules - https://tote.co.uk/racing/info/tote-superpools

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By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 20 19:45
was discussed on another thread and I'm sure they are running 2 different pools, placepot stays the same, world pool different place terms
By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 20 19:49
don't take that as gospel as I cant find the relevant post
By:
penzance
When: 15 Jun 20 19:55
dealer
think it's one pool,placepot 1st 3 only.
By:
glentoby
When: 15 Jun 20 19:56
Wrong the dealer but right as you said,already discussed.Only ONE pool for Ascot,the other meetings are as per normal Tote UK. HTH and Pisspot 3 places 7+ runners and 1st 3 regardless if 33 runners in a handicap for Ascot.
By:
penzance
When: 15 Jun 20 19:57
scoop6 1st 3 places only aswell,dealer.
Royal  Ascot only.
By:
the dealer
When: 15 Jun 20 19:57
apologies, that would be why I couldn't find the post
By:
jamee1
When: 15 Jun 20 20:34
Nice idea to join the pools together but to change the placing rules that have been the same for years and years is risky. It will alienate many long-term players and risk ending up with some very unhappy punters. Imagine missing out on a big pot because you had the 4th in a 28-runner handicap!
By:
doorman99
When: 15 Jun 20 20:37
How on earth did they dream this nonsense up. Incredible.
By:
glentoby
When: 15 Jun 20 20:45
Agree jamee1,already discussed but you are correct,the morons i.e New owners harping on about liquidity etc are fukcing deluded in their ambition to attract high end punters.The TOTE is a means for the masses and no more,never has been and never will be.A simple licence to print money due to the takeout but these morons have learned NOTHING from multiple jurisdictions,those they have now invited into the "Superpool".

The liquidity might increase but the dividends will be only a fraction better at best even without the On Course books and returned "Industry SP",note how they are saying other jurisdictions bet more on exotics than win or place as part of their advertising? It is fact but means nothing other than their takeout will increase,next week it will be situation normal and downhill from there for the NANNY.

NAP
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 15 Jun 20 22:12
Tote will continue to operate local pools at Ascot, other than those nominated as a ‘World Pool’ and commingled.


  .....  Correct Dealer. Happy
By:
longbridge
When: 16 Jun 20 09:39
Just seen this in the RP:

https://www.racingpost.com/tipping/beware-unusual-place-terms-on-ascot-tote-as-paul-kealy-shares-his-selections/437694
By:
elisjohn
When: 16 Jun 20 09:53
The 36 scheduled contests over the five days offer a wealth of punting opportunities and those using the Tote will be betting into newly launched Superpools.

Tote pool changes for Royal Ascot

Superpools have been created to reflect the super-sized pools generated from international co-mingling between pool betting operators around major race meetings.



This will ensure there is far greater liquidity as racing fans from around the world, including places such as Hong Kong, bet into one giant pool.

The World Pool was introduced at Royal Ascot last year with great success, as total pool turnover enjoyed a 415 per cent year-on-year increase, while the win pool for the 2019 Diamond Jubilee Stakes exceeded £1 million.

One important rule change to note for the duration of Royal Ascot for those betting into the pools is that the Tote will be paying on three places only for races with seven or more runners regardless of whether it is a handicap or not.

This change impacts all bets, whether a World Pool or not, and includes place, Quadpot, Placepot and Scoop 6 bets.

This rule change is not permanent and will not be a standard Tote or World Pool rule for future events.

For all our exclusive Royal Ascot free bet offers and must-have daily promotions click the free bets button or go to racingpost.com/freebets



FIRST PUBLISHED 7:26AM, JUN 16 2020Rainfall at the track has caused the going to be eased slightly on the morning of day one
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 16 Jun 20 10:00
Betfair Placepot site is showing usual Terms and conditions. !!  IE 4 places 16 or more Hcp. ??
By:
Lumberg
When: 16 Jun 20 10:31
Wonder if doing it on a paper slip in bookies shop (one where stake doesn't go into the tote pools) will have normal placepot terms?
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 16 Jun 20 10:37
Betfair miles behind as usual, no sign of betting into  " world pools " ... same old tote logos and usual Terms and

conditions !!
By:
big dunc
When: 16 Jun 20 11:45
I can't see it anywhere were you can put a superpool placepot on ?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 20 12:15
Im confused.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 16 Jun 20 12:19
£110K isn't alot for a world pool unless they add the other pools after the 1st race Confused
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Jun 20 12:21
No confusion if your betting in the Placepot atAscot you will be in the Super Pool.
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Jun 20 12:22
So first three in the first or your out.
By:
giggitygiggity
When: 16 Jun 20 12:22
I used the tote website..do the foreigners even know what a placepot is?
By:
big dunc
When: 16 Jun 20 12:24
I don't think we have a choice Sonko, I think we are in the superpool placepot and there is no normal placepot for Ascot
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 20 12:26
I did mine on here, no where did it say i was in a 'superpool' ?
By:
big dunc
When: 16 Jun 20 12:27
I hope not giggity, I cracked a placepot at Chester about 3 years ago and got 8,000 off it,

a guy in Australia I think put 1.3 million into the pool by mistake and never cracked it Laugh
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Jun 20 12:27
It's paying fack all anyway.Laugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 20 12:28
Might pay loads if battash boils over and the Irish hotpot sinks.
By:
big dunc
When: 16 Jun 20 12:29
Same on 365 Sonko but in the first race on the placepot pool it says places 1 2 3
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Jun 20 12:30
£30 MAX Dividend.Grin
By:
big dunc
When: 16 Jun 20 12:30
You must have the same numbers as me Acey Laugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 20 12:31
I have done loads of outsiders Scared
By:
giggitygiggity
When: 16 Jun 20 12:32
I've done a big straight..then another one with 2 outsiders each race
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Jun 20 12:32
Yes dunc i am just using this as a warm up for Tomorrow.Grin
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 20 13:19
I got 4th Cry

Backed the winner but didnt put it in my placepot. Plain
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 16 Jun 20 13:19
i got 4th tooSad
By:
tony6499
When: 16 Jun 20 13:22
Only a final pool of £226k, thought it would be a super pool ?
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 Jun 20 13:22
Out in the first ffs.Sad
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 16 Jun 20 13:24

Jun 16, 2020 -- 1:22PM, tony6499 wrote:


Only a final pool of £226k, thought it would be a super pool ?


same here, looks lot smaller than usual.

By:
big dunc
When: 16 Jun 20 13:24
I knew you had the same as me acey Laugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 20 13:25
Superpool my arris.
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