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By:
swiftynifty
When: 06 Jun 20 23:34
you might get a few weeks of 'savings' but then they hike it up again. i started on 12% and it's gone up quarterly since, seems they want the same amount of commission every week, you just have to lump it.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Jun 20 09:58
Swifty
Any money you don’t pay, under whatever your PC rate is is simply money lent since it’s the equation based on lifetime winnings to lifetime commission/PC.
If you continue to use the site, and win, they will continue to claw it back to parity...unless you lose and it will move back naturally.

I can’t be arsed going over it all again, but the greater the fixed % above the market generated rate is extra money lost, it’s bad value, it’s money that is taken, but isn’t in the calculation.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Jun 20 10:01
WS
You saying you’ve seen the light and ask for the absolving of your ‘hospitality box’ sins? Silly
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 10:45
not at all gray...you have to grind it out..unless you have an advantage you dont get big winning days..but im quite happy poncing small amounts whilst the majority are on a level playing field.

swifty..of course thats the caveat..you win consistently they up the comm rate..but if you're on 40%pc and never lose you benefit until they hike it to 40%.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Jun 20 12:56
LV clock 3s ahead of RTVLaugh
By:
tips
When: 07 Jun 20 14:45
what is Haydock like today speed wise?
By:
bugs bunny
When: 07 Jun 20 16:28
0.3 for me might as well watch on the tv
By:
jamesdean
When: 07 Jun 20 16:33
don't worry they are working on it
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 16:34
4yds ahead.
By:
tips
When: 07 Jun 20 16:59
thanks
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 17:58
ws i have pc aswell
By:
jamesdean
When: 07 Jun 20 18:33
Any updates to the speed pics lv the bootman?

Chelmsford tomorrow where they trialed the last fast lv to .6. Hopefully they have it up and running there again tomorrow
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 18:36
You're obsessed jimmy.
By:
jamesdean
When: 07 Jun 20 18:42
Aye, that is the 2nd time I've asked this week if any update. Fair point snipey Wink
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 18:46
Silly
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 19:31
RacingLuck 07 Jun 20 16:58 
ws i have pc aswell

so why you on 8% Laugh
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 19:33
pc + 2% or pc + 8% Laugh

Any pnl today Shafty??? Laugh
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 07 Jun 20 19:58

Jun 6, 2020 -- 6:15PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:


Horse Racing: £1,002.71  Total P&L:  £1,002.71 Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 23 marketsMarket    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)Horse Racing / Ling 6th Jun : 1m Hcap    06-Jun-20 18:05    06-Jun-20 18:07    22.41Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 1m4f Hcap    06-Jun-20 17:55    06-Jun-20 18:00    16.16Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    06-Jun-20 17:40    06-Jun-20 17:45    57.56Horse Racing / Ling 6th Jun : 1m Hcap    06-Jun-20 17:30    06-Jun-20 17:32    48.40Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 6f Hcap    06-Jun-20 17:20    06-Jun-20 17:24    8.79Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 5f Hcap    06-Jun-20 17:05    06-Jun-20 17:08    36.74Horse Racing / LyonP 6th Jun : 2200m 3yo Grp3    06-Jun-20 17:00    06-Jun-20 17:05    2.26Horse Racing / Ling 6th Jun : 6f Hcap    06-Jun-20 16:55    06-Jun-20 16:58    75.92Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 7f Hcap    06-Jun-20 16:45    06-Jun-20 16:48    51.56Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 5f Hcap    06-Jun-20 16:30    06-Jun-20 16:33    29.65Horse Racing / Ling 6th Jun : 6f Nov Stks    06-Jun-20 16:20    06-Jun-20 16:29    29.38Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 1m Hcap    06-Jun-20 16:10    06-Jun-20 16:14    23.24Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 5f Nov Stks    06-Jun-20 15:50    06-Jun-20 15:58    148.97Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 1m Grp1    06-Jun-20 15:35    06-Jun-20 15:44    23.71Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 1m Hcap    06-Jun-20 15:15    06-Jun-20 15:19    53.70Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 1m2f Listed Stks    06-Jun-20 15:00    06-Jun-20 15:05    65.91Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 2m Grp3    06-Jun-20 14:40    06-Jun-20 14:47    59.39Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 1m2f Grp2    06-Jun-20 14:25    06-Jun-20 14:29    23.61Horse Racing / Newc 6th Jun : 7f Hcap    06-Jun-20 14:05    06-Jun-20 14:09    28.06Horse Racing / Newm 6th Jun : 5f Grp3    06-Jun-20 13:50    06-Jun-20 13:54    0.02


Finnly veiled bagged up fred.

By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 20:05
Horse Racing: £1,178.34  Total P&L:  £1,178.34

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 33 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 18:10    07-Jun-20 18:15    107.78
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:55    07-Jun-20 18:14    78.00
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 5f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:45    07-Jun-20 17:51    13.06
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:35    07-Jun-20 17:42    6.64
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Nov Stks    07-Jun-20 17:20    07-Jun-20 17:38    29.77
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 5f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:10    07-Jun-20 17:29    15.68
Horse Racing / Compiegne 7th Jun : 3400m 4yo+ Chs    07-Jun-20 17:20    07-Jun-20 17:25    5.50
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Nov Stks    07-Jun-20 16:45    07-Jun-20 17:05    48.06
Horse Racing / Compiegne 7th Jun : 3600m 4yo+ Grp3 Hrd    07-Jun-20 16:45    07-Jun-20 16:50    7.22
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 7f Hcap    07-Jun-20 16:35    07-Jun-20 16:40    63.75
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 6f Listed Stks    07-Jun-20 16:25    07-Jun-20 16:30    21.91
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 16:10    07-Jun-20 16:15    -16.98
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 16:00    07-Jun-20 16:03    31.91
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 6f Nov Stks    07-Jun-20 15:50    07-Jun-20 15:59    37.31
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Grp1    07-Jun-20 15:35    07-Jun-20 15:40    138.71
Horse Racing / Compiegne 7th Jun : 4500m 5yo+ Grp3 Chs    07-Jun-20 15:25    07-Jun-20 15:33    34.14
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 15:25    07-Jun-20 15:28    77.40
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 7f Listed Stks    07-Jun-20 15:15    07-Jun-20 15:18    29.71
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m2f Listed Stks    07-Jun-20 15:00    07-Jun-20 15:04    21.86
Horse Racing / Compiegne 7th Jun : 3800m 5yo+ Grp3 Hrd    07-Jun-20 14:55    07-Jun-20 15:01    125.10

new tyres for the porch the morra Cool
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 20:25
because now i pay less pc Grin
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 20:29
so instead of 40%pc and 2% comm you've agreed 8% and 20pc ?
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 20:31
50% Cry
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 20:32
ahh.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 20:32
Week 1 of level playing field Cool

Horse Racing: £3,709.42  Total P&L:  £3,709.42

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 160 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 5f Hcap    07-Jun-20 18:30    07-Jun-20 18:41    25.42
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:55    07-Jun-20 18:14    -44.50
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 5f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:45    07-Jun-20 17:51    9.61
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:35    07-Jun-20 17:42    7.84
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Nov Stks    07-Jun-20 17:20    07-Jun-20 17:38    23.00
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 5f Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:10    07-Jun-20 17:29    196.98
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 17:00    07-Jun-20 17:03    2.80
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 7f Hcap    07-Jun-20 16:35    07-Jun-20 16:40    2.62
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 16:10    07-Jun-20 16:15    -23.16
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 16:00    07-Jun-20 16:03    10.08
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 6f Nov Stks    07-Jun-20 15:50    07-Jun-20 15:59    15.86
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m Grp1    07-Jun-20 15:35    07-Jun-20 15:40    5.06
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    07-Jun-20 15:25    07-Jun-20 15:28    5.16
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 7f Listed Stks    07-Jun-20 15:15    07-Jun-20 15:18    0.52
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m2f Listed Stks    07-Jun-20 15:00    07-Jun-20 15:04    10.12
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 1m2f Nov Stks    07-Jun-20 14:50    07-Jun-20 14:54    31.63
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 1m2f Grp3    07-Jun-20 14:40    07-Jun-20 14:44    23.00
Horse Racing / Newm 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 14:25    07-Jun-20 14:29    4.97
Horse Racing / Ling 7th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    07-Jun-20 14:15    07-Jun-20 14:19    17.90
Horse Racing / Hayd 7th Jun : 1m3f Grp3    07-Jun-20 14:05    07-Jun-20 14:09    33.59
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 20:33
has the 8% or 20%pc rate fluctuated at all?
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 20:35
first week ws haven't a clue whats coming out wednesday Blush
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 20:40
Shafty, eye fought u laid the ton winner?

Lucky, your liabilities must be enormous.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 20:42
snipey my liabilities are about 1/4 of shafters Cool
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 20:47
So you're saying you're so much better than him, u could be hedging up by backing his lays? Laugh
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 20:56
nope just willie has balls and already made his fortune Cool my strike rate for only starting few years ago though is definitely better Silly
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 21:05
We'd need ave odds + turnover of each to compare who is better.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 21:09
oh wouldn't you love them stats Laugh
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 21:10
willie 100% still top on turnover
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 21:14
Horse Racing > Newm 7th Jun : 1m Hcap    Showing 1 - 3 of 3 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Arctic Sound    582.82    6.14    Lay    07-Jun-20 16:13    6.14
Bell Rock    5.61    8.00    Lay    07-Jun-20 16:13    -36.88
Ouzo    *    805.92    13.76    Lay         13.76
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    -16.98
Market subtotal:    -16.98
Commission :    0.00
Net Market Total:    -16.98
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 21:15
clicked 1000 laid 5.6 Surprised
By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 21:20
Laugh You got off lightly.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 21:21
RacingLuck 07 Jun 20 19:35 
first week ws haven't a clue whats coming out wednesday

dont know losses total to be accurate but im guessing £640pc wed.
By:
RacingLuck
When: 07 Jun 20 21:28

Jun 7, 2020 -- 9:15PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:


clicked 1000 laid 5.6


that basically proves there was a caller at the track

By:
ProSniper
When: 07 Jun 20 21:40
Backer swept all from a ton down Devil
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 07 Jun 20 21:45
ive got pics of 3-4 sitting trackside 1 out ish.
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