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thebootman
02 Jun 20 12:28
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Good news the low latency stream begins today.

Each stream will start 3 minutes before the off time, so 12.57 for the first. You can actually view the stream now and move along the tabs to view a few extra features.

It's watch and bet so you shouldn't have to place a bet to access the stream.

You can watch on desktop/laptop/Ipad/Iphone and speed should be the same.

It's day 1 so there could be teething trouble so bear that in mind.

Good luck all.
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Report ItsMeSwaddle August 6, 2020 3:33 PM BST

Aug 6, 2020 -- 3:01PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:


what would the relevance in that be?


Those that are acquiring the faster pics also acquire racecourse boxes to trade from on race days, the same group of people, once they are allowed back on course, RTV get the green light to magically "fix" the problem, by then they have what they used too from the hospitality boxes, not all of you are at it...but a select few are.

Pure speculation obviously.

Havent really kept up with the thread, do you still maintain nobody has fast pictures anywhere Willie? ty

Report ItsMeSwaddle August 6, 2020 3:33 PM BST
Used to have*
Report Willie Shafter. August 6, 2020 3:37 PM BST
there are 4-5 drones squads..many callers trackside..still ft at selective tracks where big screen is accessible..only needs 1 faster clicker to make it look impossible.
Report thebootman August 6, 2020 6:39 PM BST
Thanks for the replies.

The new low latency stream is still actively planned, though when we eventually get it is another question. I have written to both parties saying that we have been very patient waiting for more than 2 months for RTV to get the stream right. If it's still not ready, take the graphics off and give us the stream we had in February until such time as it's sorted. Otherwise the drones, facetimers et al are just going to continue to stifle a great product.

There is a meeting between Betfair and RTV tomorrow, hopefully Betfair will provide an update,
Report Wesdag August 6, 2020 6:51 PM BST
thanks bootman
Report HappyHibby August 6, 2020 8:06 PM BST
thanx bootman....

i have yet to discover anyone who replied in the RTV survey months ago that they wanted the silly graphics...

certainly nobody i know wanted them then or wants them now...

strange how the ATR LV comes graphicless but RTV feels we need graphics to tell us things like 'the jockey has won this race 0 times in the last 5 years'..

absolutely laughable imv...
Report HappyHibby August 6, 2020 8:09 PM BST
strange how the ATR LV comes graphicless but RTV feels we need graphics

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come to think of it...

have you asked that Q bootman...?
Report dustybin August 7, 2020 9:59 AM BST
The irony being that unless anything has changed since the lockdown (and post Flash) ATR don’t have graphics and yet are even slower than RTV LV that do have graphics.

The principle of the logic to this matter should be very simple; anything that delays the actual picture speed of either actually encourages the black market.

The LV in general shouldn’t be the vehicle that informs gamblers as to their selection, that sort of information is available elsewhere, the role of the LV is to offer as fast a service as possible showing the race...that’s all.

It reminds me of the ‘smart TV’, that combo device that tried to be a tv, a music system and a sort of computer....it was awful at all three things. Specialised equipment should focus on doing their most important job.
Report HappyHibby August 7, 2020 11:46 AM BST
anything that delays the actual picture speed of either actually encourages the black market.

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correct dustybin...

not only does it encourage a black market...

the lowlife's and vagabonds demand a black market so they have an 'edge' as they call it...
Report HappyHibby August 7, 2020 11:46 AM BST
The LV in general shouldn’t be the vehicle that informs gamblers as to their selection

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absolutely correct also dustybin...
Report dustybin August 7, 2020 12:30 PM BST
I'd still like them to tell me why they cant have, as part of their established online video, a no frills fast product that costs say £20 per month access, or £10 to RTV channel subscribers?

They obviously dont know the sort of money swilling around paying for boxes, drone or FT pics eachday.
Report HappyHibby August 7, 2020 12:41 PM BST
their website should have a super fast dedicated feed either to every track or the RTV feed as per ch426...

the feed they have on at the moment is from the dark ages...

an added £10 or £20 per month would be well within most folks pocket...

no idea why they don't do it...

all seems very strange to me...

and i'm still not convinced ch426 or ch874 is as fast as it could be...

especially ch874...
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 7, 2020 12:46 PM BST
Well, RTV is owned by the racecourses. Perhaps they're making so much from the boxholders that they don't want to rock the boat. (I'm being semi-facetious here.)
Report HappyHibby August 7, 2020 12:58 PM BST
not making much from them since March...

and unlikely to make much from them for a while yet i would suggest...
Report dustybin August 7, 2020 1:11 PM BST
Even if it were down to that (and I'd be skeptical)
They and the courses are on an ever more difficult battle against providers of illicit pics
Chasing ft'ers, slowing certain screens or trying to find and stop drone users.

It's a simply way of redirecting all that revenue into the pockets of 'racing'
Report HappyHibby August 7, 2020 1:19 PM BST
the black market pictures provided by vermin must be a huge some of money...

money that could easily be kept in racing and added to prizemoney or improving facilities at racecourses...

very strange it doesn't happen imv...
Report Willie Shafter. August 7, 2020 2:32 PM BST
sum*
Report boga August 8, 2020 2:50 PM BST
i/r betting is playing like it's a Monday card never seen liquidity so dire on a Saturday, but to be fair these are the worst i/r tracks by a country mile to play on Betfair LV
Report cheburekito August 8, 2020 4:31 PM BST
^ had exact same thoughts about liquidity
Report cheburekito August 8, 2020 4:40 PM BST
becoming a layer was probably the worst decision of my eternity, they are like dying breed
Report Big Cat August 9, 2020 5:00 PM BST
I understand that RTV use Perform Group as their Streaming Service Provider
Report DOUBLED August 9, 2020 5:39 PM BST
DAZN ?
Report dustybin August 10, 2020 1:02 PM BST
Any pearls of wisdom from either bf or RTV after the recent meeting?
Report Latalomne August 10, 2020 2:31 PM BST
Crap pics Leicester, miles behind
Report shady69 August 10, 2020 2:35 PM BST
That 230 race was terrible Cry
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 10, 2020 2:39 PM BST
Played excellently for me with pics off the telly.

Ties in with what jamesdean keeps saying - when the Betfair live video goes down, so do the raw pics THEY are using

Could just be coincidence though.
Report Ghetto Joe August 10, 2020 2:42 PM BST
I was watching via T426 and seems the suspend guy must be working off their live feed as the 2:30 went in play very late and suspended well after the runners had past the winning post compared to the TV pictures.
Report duffy August 10, 2020 2:44 PM BST
confirmation bias?
Report dustybin August 10, 2020 2:46 PM BST
tis amazing how bf dont even know when their own feed has been slowed and the suspending of markets is negatively effected as a result
Report Latalomne August 10, 2020 2:52 PM BST
It should be really chuffing obvious, because the quality is like night and day.
Report duffy August 10, 2020 3:18 PM BST
The LV was back for the last race , but the conspiracy theory involving the big white button appearing when the LV is down, was also there on this occasion, which debunks that theory somewhat.
Report ProSniper August 10, 2020 3:41 PM BST
Tiny screen with minimal graphics = still runs like a pot of hoss shyte. Imagine if they dared introduce HD?
Report boga August 11, 2020 4:59 PM BST
ffs!CryCryCry
Report boga August 11, 2020 5:08 PM BST
working fine all day now miles behind what a shambles Cry
Report Willie Shafter. August 11, 2020 6:53 PM BST
plays better when its off..not sure why the grumblings.
Report Fruiterie August 11, 2020 6:57 PM BST
The connection has timed out

The server at bw101.attheraces.com is taking too long to respond.

This is all I get
Report thebootman August 12, 2020 11:05 AM BST
Update from RTV and Betfair - There is nothing to update.Cry
Report ItsMeSwaddle August 12, 2020 12:29 PM BST
You have to laugh.
Report HappyHibby August 12, 2020 12:49 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKotW13Id0w
Report kjansch August 12, 2020 1:13 PM BST
Update from RTV and Betfair - There is nothing to update.


can you give a little more detail please?
Report thebootman August 12, 2020 4:20 PM BST
Kjansch - There isn't much more detail to give, it's still going ahead, when who knows?
Report kjansch August 12, 2020 4:33 PM BST
ok thanks

i wasnt sure if you were saying that they saw no problem to update
Report jamesdean August 14, 2020 3:52 PM BST
We apologise for the ongoing latency and variability in the Racing TV stream. Our supplier understands the issue and a fix is still underway. However, we are confident this will deliver the latency of the original trial alongside improved stability.

You can check your compatibility for the low latency solution with the table attached (image).

We understand how frustrating the wait can be and we share your frustrations. Rest assured we are committed to delivering the best in-play horse racing betting experience for our customers.

Thank you
Report pablo-fanque August 14, 2020 3:53 PM BST
ttt

new update from betfair at the top of the page

they are still working on it Crazy
Report duffy August 14, 2020 3:54 PM BST
Don't you dare moan about it ever againWink
Report jamesdean August 14, 2020 3:54 PM BST
Aye pabs, as duffy says, stop moaning!!
Report duffy August 14, 2020 4:01 PM BST
Laugh
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 14, 2020 4:47 PM BST
Windows 7 not mentioned on that table (still the second most-used operating system in the world).

A relief really. Means that when the low-latency pics do finally arrive, I won't be tempted to spend races squinting at a tiny picture in order to nick a one-second advantage.
Report Willie Shafter. August 14, 2020 5:35 PM BST
forced hibby into retirement Cry
Report duffy August 14, 2020 5:40 PM BST
His running mate winning the lot yesterday did thatGrinWink
Report stayinin August 17, 2020 2:31 PM BST
fast pictures thieves all on the back road at catterick using high power Telescope to beam pictures from the big screen
Report Latalomne August 18, 2020 4:40 PM BST
I presume I'm not the only one getting this?  (last at Beverley and this Ros race)

Sorry, there is no available stream at this time.
Please try again later.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk August 18, 2020 4:41 PM BST
Same here latalomne
Report Wesdag August 18, 2020 4:42 PM BST
#MeToo
Report Big Cat August 18, 2020 6:01 PM BST
I fancy we'll see the qik-pix once spectators return and the advantage has been milked (not by RTV, but one of their 'partners)
Report jamesdean August 24, 2020 6:09 PM BST
Ayr 6pm rtv lv goosed?
Report kjansch August 24, 2020 6:11 PM BST
yes
Report jamesdean August 24, 2020 6:12 PM BST
and there is the big white button at the end of the goosed live video....some coincidence that
but hey...no one else has a faster lv stream...
Report ItsMeSwaddle August 24, 2020 9:26 PM BST

Aug 18, 2020 -- 6:01PM, Big Cat wrote:


I fancy we'll see the qik-pix once spectators return and the advantage has been milked (not by RTV, but one of their 'partners)


I said this a couple of months back and was shut down for saying it.

Report ItsMeSwaddle August 24, 2020 9:27 PM BST

Aug 4, 2020 -- 11:56AM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote:


"do they really need another 6-8 weeks to work this out?"Anyone else find it strange that 6-8 weeks time is the likely (or was the likely) return of the public on track? 1st October?Maybe just a coincedence.


Same sort of thing.

Might even take a bit longer to sort if spectators still kapooted come October Wink

Report jamesdean August 25, 2020 1:34 PM BST
Catterick 1.25pm race goosed, big white button again end of video

No one gives a fk anymore Cry
Report dustybin August 25, 2020 1:36 PM BST
bf suspending on delayed video again
Whatever the reason it continually falls apart (daily at present) they can control how late the market closes because bf dont know whats going on
Report jamesdean August 25, 2020 1:43 PM BST
Betfair holding off until black friday to get rtv sky for a tenner

be 3 months Monday we were meant to be getting the new fast lv....3 ferking months
Report duffy August 25, 2020 1:46 PM BST
You can't have the LV and the colours
Report Fashion Fever August 25, 2020 2:01 PM BST
can't get ruk to work ?
Report herrero August 25, 2020 2:03 PM BST
neither can I
Report HappyHibby September 3, 2020 3:18 PM BST
are we still being fed the 'nobody has fast pics on RTV LV' line does anyone know...?

there are some bl00dy good guessers out there if that ain't the case then...

Cry
Report HappyHibby September 3, 2020 3:21 PM BST
if that IS the case i should have said...
Report cheburekito September 3, 2020 4:06 PM BST
its clear as ever that there are fast pic users
Report DOUBLED September 3, 2020 5:39 PM BST
Posted nearly 3 months ago ;

We are aware of the latency issues that customers have been experiencing with Racing TV streams since the return of the UKI racing last week. This problem is on the stream provider’s side and is currently being fixed. Due to the complex nature of the systems involved however, this may take several weeks to resolve.

"Currently being fixed" Laugh
Report ProSniper September 3, 2020 6:13 PM BST
"Due to the complex nature" > due to the cheating nature of some rancid individuals..
Report HappyHibby September 3, 2020 6:16 PM BST
what's so complex that they could do in February but they couldn't replicate from June 1st...???

and still can't 3 months later...

CrazyCrazyCrazy
Report dustybin September 3, 2020 6:24 PM BST
betfair get the same product other bookies get....who dont do anything
So what exactly do betfair do to improve the product?
Report ProSniper September 3, 2020 6:27 PM BST
When a wall gets smashed up and is then fixed..only to be smashed up again..fixed..smashed up again..

One can only come to the firm conclusion that it's wanton destruction.
Report HappyHibby September 3, 2020 8:26 PM BST
race after race on RTV it feels like i'm a million miles behind the sharp minds...

nobody has faster pics than RTV LV tho...

course not.
Report Latalomne September 7, 2020 1:21 PM BST
First at Leicester was like a bad Sky race here.  Stop, go, stop, go.
Report pablo-fanque September 7, 2020 1:30 PM BST
i gave them the benefit of doubt about 10 weeks ago that they would get this fixed ( speed wise )

14 weeks after we were meant to have the faster stream and it's still not fixed

ridiculous
Report Latalomne September 7, 2020 1:53 PM BST
1.11 last price traded on a neck winner there.  Has everyone given up already?
Report Wesdag September 7, 2020 2:08 PM BST
bunch finish the reason?
Report jamesdean September 7, 2020 2:12 PM BST
perth sticking as well
Report Latalomne September 7, 2020 2:12 PM BST
Maybe.

Perth rubbish, too.
Report ItsMeSwaddle September 7, 2020 2:19 PM BST
Can I have a price its sped up to promised speed once people allowed back on track?

Still think we will get the stuttering, dont believe there is any foul play there I just think the service is poor.
Report duffy September 7, 2020 2:31 PM BST
You'll have a long wait for spectators back on track, there's probably more of a likelihood that we end up back in lockdown again the way things are going.
Report Latalomne September 7, 2020 3:19 PM BST
1.2 LPM there too, having never been shorter than 1.16.  There's defo less money buyers about today.
Report pablo-fanque September 7, 2020 3:24 PM BST
either that , or no drones , faster pics, betfair suspending on the line.
Report Latalomne September 7, 2020 3:35 PM BST
They're definitely at Lingers Laugh
Report pablo-fanque September 7, 2020 3:46 PM BST
Grin
Report duffy September 7, 2020 3:50 PM BST
RTV feed experiencing its fair share of freezes lately, all things considered I find myself more often watching via sky.
Report DOUBLED September 7, 2020 3:52 PM BST
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You'll have a long wait for spectators back on track, there's probably more of a likelihood that we end up back in lockdown again the way things are going.

track players will be present at Donny Shocked
Report jamesdean September 7, 2020 4:53 PM BST
perth a joke

have sky taken over rtv's live video?
Report jamesdean September 7, 2020 5:00 PM BST
leicester sh1te there as well

what an absolute shower live video has become
Report DOUBLED September 7, 2020 5:01 PM BST
As we rapidly approach the year 2021 it is quite unbelievable how sh1te the pictures are that Betfair have us watching on a daily basis.
Report cheburekito September 7, 2020 5:02 PM BST
typical slavery day in the markets - here, have a **** live video and if you make some money pay premium charge
Report Latalomne September 7, 2020 6:11 PM BST
RTV has been v poor all day long.  Galway stuttering too.
Report Latalomne September 8, 2020 1:19 PM BST
How far behind was Catterick there?
Report Latalomne September 8, 2020 1:22 PM BST
Clock suggesting 5 secs behind at Punchestown too.
Report gerard September 8, 2020 1:30 PM BST
Normal here?
Report Latalomne September 8, 2020 1:31 PM BST
On LV?
Report gerard September 8, 2020 1:36 PM BST
Yeah, just in front of RTV as usual.
Report Latalomne September 8, 2020 1:38 PM BST
Ok, ta.  The clock is suggesting it's 5 secs behind for both tracks having been perfectly synced yesterday when stuttery.
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