Offshore accounts could be a thing of the past in the not too distant future with the new buzz word of the locality being thrown around by those guided by their masters.

who knows?

Centralised accounts are no good for anyone longterm, cash and collect is handy. We need choices, can the course bookmakers offer their own unique only on track offers, competition not just returning exchange markets. The On-course bookmakers need a product that only they can display, that the exchanges and shops can't bet on. only on-course punters, Betting without the fav on some pitches and other possibilities.

Tech killed the sport.

"People will use phones even moe."

Thats a good thing, it offers people a chance to get the price the bookmaker wants to take once youve bet with them?

Again hundreds of thousands of people just did their education on something that we no longer need!

Remember the days before the phone and tech? Happy days!

I am sorry, but the comment that if there were no on-course bookmakers it would decrease the level of attendance is bordering on the most buffoonery statement of the year award.

Has that poster evey attended the Arc in Paris, the HK International at Sha Tin or perhaps the Breeders Cup in the US ???

All massively attended events with not a bookmaker in sight.

Complete nonsense.

gb government had a great opportunity to  establish a proper tote in gb.with proper enthusiastic people running it .but they bottled it,or something else, and awarded the running of  it to betfred. who proceeded to increase the takeout from 13.5%  to 16.5% in 2012 to 19.25% in 2017   as a result no one serious bets with the tote anymore.  so its basically a gonner unless its scrapped totally and a new tab type model introduced.

How can you have locality when they want ya all online, mixed messages me thinks.

Swaddle, I see that you have shut Ribero up. Can't reply.

In other words, now you are thinking. Nice one Sparrow.

Ribero you are always welcome like everyone else. Good health

i'm certain that both ribero1 and myself would much rather be elsewhere today too
on this saturday at york last year , with a £5 minimum bet sign up , i took 1078 bets and rewarded myself with an ice cream after the last.
the sunshine is even warmer this year and york would be bursting with people forming long lines at the bookmakers joints...very , very few go near the tote , a few do a placepot
next week would have been the same at epsom

Adge
1078 bets seems decent adge and did you win. just a quick one Adge has York held up well for you over the last few seasons. would have been there myself and would be looking for a nice few peronis in the old living room.
Hope we are there for ebor. off to put the Barbie on for 2 steak and a few peronis
stay safe
Ronnie

hi ronnie,
ebor day is the same but the first three days deteriorated considerably.....think we are long odds against , unless a small attendance ...maybe a tentative trial at quieter days in august but with many hoops to jump through
would you believe the ice cream seller gave me buy one get one free.....honour among theives some on here would say

Madge,were you sleeping on the joint?Hennessy day Newbury 2nd row Tatts a few years ago,2100 bets,but a very bad losing day!!

Adge, that was the 25th May last year, we were elsewhere, trying to stave off the "very bleak future for bookmakers"

Democrat, would have been nice to bump into you tomorrow but sadly not to be, hopefully later in the year?

Only just had read through and not every thread.From what I have read though is quite alarming in terms of the view of On Course bookies.Seems to me that the view is that they will become extinct? I would beg to disagree in terms of UK and Irish racing,for at least a generation,after that quite probably.The on course bookie has a place and is why UK and Ireland are unique in atmosphere,the ring is almost as important as the actual racing in terms of atmosphere to why so many go racing.As to the pricing/arbing etc,you can put that firmly at the hands of Betfair allowing Bookmakers to have accounts,particularly the High Street names.I predicted this and sad to say it as been born out by events,Peer to Peer it has not been for a long time and never will be again.This current situation is an opportunity for a stronger and more independent generation of "Bookies" to flourish i.e guts to stand and offer something different to the majority i.e LAY bets.I have never been ripped off by an on course bet or layer,cannot say the same for the biggest names in the world.

Aside from the sad state of on-course bookmaking, I think that too many are being too pessimistic about when the public will be able to return to the racetracks. Sad that I am, I've spent a great deal of time trawling government websites for information and their projection / modelling slides for CV19 make very interesting reading. Bu August 1st, they project that deaths will be down to a daily total of 0 through to 5. Daily new infections will be about 200 by the same day. With 25,000 contact tracers, I suspect we will see a faster return to normality than many think - especially the doom-mongering BBC. Look at various government and sport websites and you will see that September 1st is a crucial date. Hence, between September 1st and October 1st for a return to racing for the public, all be it with social distancing and possibly virus waivers to be signed by attendees. At first hue crowds will be still banned but up to 5,000 is my prediction.