London commuters today...

Was in Peckham at lunch time .. nowts changed...Grevs double parked in clapped out motors...bruvs mobbed outside jerk shop.. and proper Geezers gathering around Manzes   COME ON YOU LIONS

I'd have a lumpy evens bet when there is more data regarding calculating a good estimate for the IFR for Covid it is significantly higher than the widely accepted estimate of 0.1 for seasonal flu. The double whammy is then that more of the population are vulnerable so although in general the IFR is still low it's the weight of numbers in the population that makes it more dangerous than seasonal flu.

I think another fear was that once hospitalised with Covid the recovery times are on average much longer than for seasonal flu with patients in for weeks.The beds taken are taken for longer.

Look at the faces of these commuters. Do they look local to you? Or are they mainly economic migrants? How many of these are still on furlough or government Covid-19 financial aid package? Do they care if they contribute to a 2nd Covid-19 spike in the UK?

A classic example of common sense void.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK37rZqOPKQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid
=IwAR1GR3Elhyc2sTQctXd_nrIL_X8j_Qn9HGJhWm6n-hLR8LM7EXGR-DtK3Vo

this is for real..taken yesterday..and plenty leaves on

Here is a Devils Advocate question,HOW many of Steve's photos contain "English/British" individuals.....e.g Anglo Saxon,Celtic white with at least Great Grand Parents born within the British Isles as a majority?

Not a racist view,simply a question as to why a Public Enquiry is needed for why so called ethnic minorities are more at risk?

97% of london are foreign.

Is China fighting a second wave of coronavirus? Beijing shuts gyms and a city of 10million people is put in lockdown
China has shut downs gyms and swimming pools in Beijing amid fears the country is vulnerable to a second wave of coronavirus. 
It comes just days after the communist regime quarantined a city of 10million people in its north west region near Russia   
And on Saturday China's northwestern province of Shaanxi reported seven new imported cases coronavirus, all in citizens returning home from Russia.

not quite 97 willy

The Brits have stated statistics about Indian and Pakistani origins being more likely to die from Covid.......the muppets failed to mention that Pakistan and India are one and the same country other than a false border and religion since partition?

Amazing the fact that charities want money to save the unfortunates in India and Pakistan when their death rate is mega lower than the UK and US just as an example?

Someone,sometime,somewhere might have the guts to tell the truth?

Gyms and swimming pools ffs

Hardly a lockdown is it, more precautions

One of the most remote towns in the country has suffered the highest coronavirus infection rate in the UK, according to the latest data. At least 552 people in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, have caught Covid-19 since the start of the outbreak, say government figures. The town, which has a population of 67,000 people, has a rate of 882 cases per 100,000 people, reports Mailonline. Barrow’s infection rate is therefore more than double that of Wales (365), triple England’s (244) and Scotland’s (251) and quadruple the rate recorded in Northern Ireland (220).    Experts have struggled to explain why the industrial town on the Furness peninsula in the North West has turned into a hotspot for the virus, but local public health officials say it may be skewed by higher testing figures. Visit our live blog for the latest updates: Coronavirus news live Colin Cox, the director of public health for Cumbria, claims the NHS trust in the area began mass-testing its employees and patients at the end of February and has conducted ‘three times’ more swabs on average, which ‘may explain a fair chunk of it’. A total 61 people in Barrow have fallen victim to coronavirus, giving it a death rate of 91 for every 100,000 – one of the worst outside of London. Figures show that Cumbria is also home to the area with the third highest infection rate. South Lakeland – east of Barrow-in-Furness – has a rate of 488 cases per 100,000 people.

I spoke to a friend in the UK about 1800 hrs this evening,he related that a family of 4 had become a family of over 20 and of Turkish origin,overnight.

A second spike is not just a possibility...........1.01 at least half again of deaths due to this virus in the UK,a certainty?

numbers cant possibly drop when its more or less back to normal..imo

May 13, 2020 -- 9:49PM, glentoby wrote:

I spoke to a friend in the UK about 1800 hrs this evening,he related that a family of 4 had become a family of over 20 and of Turkish origin,overnight.A second spike is not just a possibility...........1.01 at least half again of deaths due to this virus in the UK,a certainty?

I think we could be ok over here in the near future being an Island(so long as Leo gets the airport sorted), bug I really fear for people in the UK.

MJK,hope all of yours are ok,being an Island is no Guarantee,should have at least meant some better protection?

Down to the idiots Governing that the UK is the worst hit on the planet.........fukcing arrogance and then the stupidity of the the PMs "advisors".............we rely on SCIENCE????

DOUGH PEEK HUNTS?

Steve being being the author of that significant description.

being an Island means fek all when we are gonna let everyone willynilly in and out from France and Ireland

May 13, 2020 -- 10:17PM, glentoby wrote:

MJK,hope all of yours are ok,being an Island is no Guarantee,should have at least meant some better protection?Down to the idiots Governing that the UK is the worst hit on the planet.........fukcing arrogance and then the stupidity of the the PMs "advisors".............we rely on SCIENCE????DOUGH PEEK HUNTS?Steve being being the author of that significant description.

All going well so far thanks, hope you and yours are similar. 'Only' 10 death reported today and just over 100 new cases. At least its going in the right direction.

According to that report then seeing as there are only 100,000 people in South Lakeland and 488 are positive they have all been tested. You only have Kendal/ Windermere and Ulverston that are built up areas the rest of the area is spread out.

Any more photos today Steve.....the forum needs a new idiot now burkeys gone

Its a good sign that so many people are infected. Firstly it means the death rate is lower than we think and secondly more people have antibodies.

honcho do you think the govt have chosen "herd mentality" as a policy?

I think the government is just totally reactive at the moment. I think they are out of their depth and the way they (and everyone else in fairness) has allowed the country to sink into hysteria is limiting their options. I am convinced the NHS has told them they over reacted and the Bank of England has told them that they are looking at the worst recession ever (since 1706). They still have Brexit and the other economies that matter are further forward than us. I think between a rock and a hard place doesn't get anywhere near describing their situation. I have no clue if they even have a policy other than wait and see.

It seems insane that covering/masks are not mandatory on the public transport system..is every other country wrong?

I think arguing about masks is a bit mute. A bit like moving the deckchairs on the Titanic. You shouldn't be anywhere near public transport if you are vulnerable or in contact with vulnerable people.

Fully agree with that honcho..however we both know that will not be the case in reality.

Well that is just the point. We have been locked down for 6/7 weeks. Whats been happening in that time, nothing. They should have been planning for the end of lock down. We have a crazy situation that we are extending the furlough at its full 80% for everyone. That's madness. We should be putting our resources towards the vulnerable and those that are not at risk should be back at work earning their money. Pubs hotels and restaurants not to mention sporting facilities should all be fully open. If you are not at risk it isn't going hurt you. The vulnerable shouldn't feel the need to get on public transport or anywhere else that is risky for that matter. We have this stupid senseless argument about a second peak. Who cares about a second peak if we are protecting the ones that are hurt by it? Not me anyway.

the so called vulnerable has gone from 2 million to probably 20 million as more is known a 3rd of the population,their on about hielding bame people at work,men twice as likely as women,obese, how do you shield a 3rd of the country

even if your a so called young braveheart who needs hospitalising with virus but no bame nhs worker is allowed to transport you to hospital,treat you whilst there, etc, getting a non bame,obese nhs worker to treat 1000,s of people is like winning the lottery

I think that's nonsense personally. If that was the case the death rate would be massive, it just isn't. Every day another scare story with no evidence to back it up. The evidence is clear 85% are old and have underlying conditions. Who cares men are twice as likely as women, the important factor is how likely are women. Twice as likely as very unlikely is still not very likely.

so you think bame people on frontline who are over 4 times more likely to die should be told just to get on with it, imagine your job where nearly 400 have died and your over 4 times more likely to be one of them and your told to jog on

I was responding to your first post. I am not interested in silly twisting word games with you or anyone else. Everyone working on the front line is more at risk because they are treating people with symptoms and if you are are symptomatic you shed more virus. If you have been identified as vulnerable you need to be made aware of the risks and make a decision accordingly. Are you telling me that if you have been identified as being significantly more vulnerable you can then say 'I want to continue to go to work so lock everyone else down and stop them going to work'. Total nonesense.

Anyone seriously interested in what London looks like today can take a look here:

https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/england/london/london-traffic.html


Its a live webcam, not many folk about, empty buses and not a lot of traffic.

So 1sttimeposter, what if the government said something like this ' The economy is crashing, we need to get back to work. Everyone other than the vulnerable go back to work. Everything open up. This will cause pressure on NHS so for the next 6 months all front NHS staff that go to work have their wages doubled tax free' I worked this out to costing the country about £10 billion at the most. I think everyone would go to work.

With respect to wearing masks there is a different philosophy in Bavaria (i'm in München). It's compulsory to wear them on all forms of public transport and you will not get served in a shop/restaurant (take-away) without wearing one, in fact others in the queue will chastise you.

Designer face masks? Just had an email from Henri Lloyd offering two, resplendant with HL logo, for £30. Good F**king grief.

Thanks Andrew..Germany appears to be battling this virus slightly better than the UK..we know that mask wearing is futile so we wont bother.

virus "convenient and fortuitous" 


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZQoQ61RrY

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/commuters-crammed-together-packed-tube-22024645

plenty pics of the tube today craig...still crammed in like sardines..

there was 20 people in the whole of canary wharf station when i got off there at 4.30 this afternoon

probably 8 on each carriage on the DLR at 7 this morning

10 on each carriage on the jubilee line into canary wharf at 4.30 this afternoon

you havent a clue what you on about other than what you read on MSM

daily mirror prints a pic of a crammed tube it says taken today,im hardly in a position to dispute its authenticity..

One worrying snap taken by nurse Abbie Biddick showed commuters forced to stand on a crowded Central Line carriage this morning with many not wearing masks.

She wrote on Twitter : "All the news reporters who claim the tube isn’t busy clearly haven't got on the central line in the morning. Every seat full and people stood no more than 10cm apart."

mebbes nurse abbie is deliberately lying?

you can cherry pick certain stations such as leyton/leytonstone/stratford on the central line with a massive eastern european demographic that work in construction and menial labour that will be going to work at the same time as they have done for the past 7 weeks.

not everybody is sat at home looking after tarquin taking furlough payments.

i cant even apply for jsa.

are you really that naiive that you thought nothing moved in the country the last 7 weeks.

who do you thinks pays for the 60% of the north east state funded employment sector

the scotland principle of state funded applies to wales,n ireland and much of the north east/west and yet you sit on your judgemental arses telling us when to go to work

so ok for most trains to be part full and an odd one crammed with no ppe?

i maybe a lot of things craig but 'naive' with one i isnt one of them.

They need some packed carriages so the Dippers can graft...human rights innit

the r rate in london is now the lowest in the country so maybe it should be other regions you should be offering social distance advice to

May 14, 2020 -- 8:04PM, chavman wrote:

there was 20 people in the whole of canary wharf station when i got off there at 4.30 this afternoon

About time they put a foodbank north of the river

showing photo,s of packed trains,platforms right wing media,doing you no favours on about putting fares up

was the daily mirror..not me.

mail always stick a few up

Yesterday, it was revealed that eight out of 10 of areas with the highest infection rates in Britain are in northern parts of England.

std's craig..

who would have thought.........




The number of people becoming infected with coronavirus each day in London has fallen to 24,

The rate of infections in England also appears to be slowing, according to modelling by Public Health England and the University of Cambridge's MRC Biostatistics Unit.

Data shows that the R value across England is 0.75, firmly under 1.0 - which the prime minister specified as a requirement for the continued easing of lockdown measures in the coming months.

The R value is shorthand for the reproductive rate of the virus.

The North East and Yorkshire are 0.8, the South West is 0.76, the North West is 0.73, the South East and East of England are 0.71 and the Midlands is 0.68, according to the research.

London's average rate has fallen to 0.4, meaning that for every 10 people who are infected, they are likely to pass it onto four people.

The figure also means the capital has gone from being the epicentre of the UK outbreak to having the lowest rate of infection in England.

Come out of the cupboard

you boys and girls

LONDON CALLING 

ffs cant you kooonts read ,there hasn't been 24 cases in London,it,s someone,s prediction,estimate based on his models,which currently most other scientists ,modellers are running away from

at least I won 50 p last night betting on which,front page this headline was on,

Should I stay or should I go now?

...according to modelling by Public Health England and the University of Cambridge's MRC Biostatistics Unit.

MRC = Model Railway Club

London 'virus-free in TWO WEEKS': Just 24 new cases a day are recorded in the capital and it could be eradicated there by June raising hopes lockdown could be eased
London has recorded just 24 new daily coronavirus cases and has the lowest 'reproduction' rate in England
The city's R rate of 0.4 means the outbreak is currently shrinking quickly with cases halving every 3.5 days

1st time poster 15 May 20 10:03 
ffs cant you kooonts read ,there hasn't been 24 cases in London

Lockdown working. DO NOT turn the tap too quickly.

how many million people live in London ,only people getting tested are hospital patients and key workers,who the foook no,s how many people are positive without a test,
24 people testing positive out of those tested[ even if true ] isn't 24 positive cases in London,

So London is now safer than Barrow-In-Furness! I'm sure it will compensate through stabbings, robberies, rapes and murders. What a world!

they just trot different lines out every day
its safer in a park than in a house,building ,when does that change when a park,has 50,100,200,500,1000,people in it,how bigs the park

your more likely to hug a family member, since when did hugging become a form of transmission,are you safer hugging a family member or standing 6 ft away downwind from someone coughing,
we,ve gone from physically having to transfer a dose of droplets from an infected person into your body, to anything and everything, breathing,shouting,talking loud, all now in the frame

Londonophobia

Covid Steve on a strict diet of humble pie these days

so when numbers in london were sky high its a disgrace they should do something about it (daily mail etc)
now they are low its not true the (daily mail etc) are lying to us, maybe the president of manila is lying too

No one likes us

If the Virus is not spreading with them Crowds why the fook are we in Lockdown ??  I can see the whole thing going Pear ..

People like sardines on the tube, suddenly we're told the R rate is 0.4 in London, convenient that....come on you lot, squeeze a few more guinea pigs on those trains, London twice as safe as the South West currently languishing at 0.76 despite being barely registering on those charts .

Take what the politicians here say or do with a big pinch of salt. The best guide is observe what's been and is still happening overseas esp those with competent leaders and managers; a government that screw up prep at the outset and a stupid mayor allowing his bus drivers to die unnecessarily (playing politics) despite a 2m social distancing rule before introducing entry into any bus by the back door is not to be listened to, period.

Coupled the two entities together = calamity

Add Covid Steve and his photos and you got a win treble of disaster mate

How much does it cost you Chav to and from work

Who's Covid Steve?

1.50 each way tugay while the bus is free

covid steve =willie shafter (govt covid doomsday advisor for the north east)

R rate on the rise again just been announced 0.7-1.0

CHAVS GOT A  JEKYLL OYSTER

^^
What goes up must down, and vice versa. And, Covid-19 is no different courtesy of "intelligent" crowds on the roads and public places.

nah,working in your manor..surrey quay...only gotta cross the thames....could bike it in 20 mins but dont wanna use the greenwich foot tunnel

and im a lazy coont

Is coont the same as koon? I'm very bad with London slang.

Calling Top2rated. Can I get another ‘head in hands man’ for Impossible123 please?

Its Surrey Docks to us

It'a all gentrified now, innit.

yeah call it what you want its all the same.

15 years ago i used to stay above the marigold at the bottom of bemondsey st which is quite posh,classed as london bridge....cross tower bridge road 20 metres away and youre in bermondsey.

iirc the golden eagle was millwalls main pub then,well closed now.

yep..weird aint it....surrey docks aint sparrow

I wouldn't recognise much of it now as it's 50 years since I left.

part timer

Not many left in London from when I lived there. Most of them in Essex and Kent these days.

memory jolt...it was the golden lion

tbf sparrow theyre better off there these days

I'm sure they are, chav.

So the snapshot posted by Steve has changed because of Covid 19? Get real,a post lockdown picture would have LESS white Brits? The photos reflect the true balance as it was and is,in fact tell the story of why the ethnic communities are more likely to suffer from the virus.

Reflected worldwide,down to ignorance,arrogance and low IQ about control and prevent more than economic or social deprivation depending on what you believe,religion etc?

London might be seeing a drop but it will take at least 2 weeks to confirm this will be sustained,I am 1.01 it will not.

society has evolved greatly since i was young..the low IQ gene is gaining momentum at a great rate.