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By:
Baphornet
When: 20 Apr 20 23:14
is the numpty who keeps starting these obnoxious topics; Andrew Tyler perchance?
By:
dalbers
When: 21 Apr 20 08:44
Some facts (straight from the BBC website this morning) to prove Cheltenham is nowhere near being the epicentre of this whole Covid-19 saga.

Within the whole of Gloucestershire (Cheltenham's county)  -  934 cases in a population of 633.558
Within the whole of Worcestershire (immediately north of Gloucs)  -  887 cases in a population of 592,057

London Borough of Croydon  -  1,187 cases in a population of 385,346
London Borough of Sutton (next door to Croydon)  -  589 cases in a population of 204,525
Total between the two of them  -  1,776 cases in a population of 589,871

If the Cheltenham Festival had been such a carrier of Covid-19 with folk from all over the country bringing their yet-to-emerge symptoms of Covid-19 to Gloucestershire, surely the legacy would have been a spike in Gloucestershire's figures as all the restaurant, pub & hotel staff who served the crowds all week (along with the taxi drivers, car park stewards, etc) were infected with the crowd's Covid-19 ? !!

Instead, Gloucestershire's own figures are remarkably similar to its northern neighbour (the best comparison given Cheltenham itself is in Gloucestershire's northern third).

Even more remarkably, the combined figures of two of the more badly-affected London boroughs reveal around twice the number of Covid-19 cases as either Gloucestershire or Worcestershire, despite a very similar sample size of population.

The BHA, Cheltenham racecourse or anyone else to do with horse racing would do very well to throw the above statistics back at those hindsighters now slagging off the decision to stage the festival.


In other words, nearly twice Gloucester
By:
The Knight
When: 21 Apr 20 09:46
This has become the worst country in the world - by a long way - fro 'past-posting'.

It's all 'told you so' and pointing the finger after something has happened.

From there it's all about 'apologizing'.

All of it is total balls. HINDSIGHT is a wonderful commodity and if I have a shop selling it I'd be the richest man in the world.

But, horse racing fans can help here.

Ignore threads like this. Well meaning but it just gives creedence to this kind of stupidity.

The hindsight brigade latch on to EVERYTHING nowadays but use logic on them and they run to the hills.
By:
GoBallistic
When: 21 Apr 20 09:53
With the benefit of hindsight I think it's now safe to say that the decision to go ahead with the Cheltenham Festival this year was totally correct
By:
stridingedge
When: 21 Apr 20 10:54
You don't need hindsight to be able to state as fact that when Cheltenham kicked off this year the Govt has been told by the science that containment of the disease was impossible.Community testing deemed so important at the time by the WHO and indeed the scientists we see at the daily briefings had to all intense purposes now been stopped.

The science the govt was listening to stated there is too much seeding now in the community for containment.This isn't hindsight or sensationalising it's what was known at the time.

It's certainly to me totally unreasonable that the sporting fixtures like Cheltenham and the CL football are being given a seemingly harsh weighted response under scrutiny than the general open activities throughout society pre lockdown. Public transport was still packed and no measures were in place in pubs and restaurants etc.

However having said that I don't think it's unreasonable given my first paragraph that the timeline is being looked at in general for whether action was taken at the right time at the start of Cheltenham week given the prevailing knowledge about the extent of virus already known to be present in the UK.Following on from this the other question will always be asked as to whether around 10 days was too long from containment not being an option to the restrictive lockdown measures being implemented.

I'm no tory lover but I don't for one minute think a labour govt would have handled this crisis any differently. For me it is pretty clear we were always on the back foot with this as we just had no real preparation and systems in place for dealing with a pandemic which would inevitably have hit our shores at some point.
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