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Good call happysandwich ... two winners in the first three races ... could this be the goldmine I've been looking for lol
You can back at no. 7 Liquice @ 11/10 Jägersro Galopp 12.25.
Watch the race live and full screen – what uk racecourse does that kind of service?
Watch the race live and full screen – what uk racecourse does that kind of service?
Fav jockey well beat and looking down at the horse 
same the world over...
same the world over...
Decent pictures just wish I could understand Swedish for the interviews....
the trainer of the #3 I RELY in the next seems to do well with horses after a layoff (44% win)
Hapopysandwich,
I guess you will be laying Ventura Destiny, it used to race in UK under Middleham Park racing
I guess you will be laying Ventura Destiny, it used to race in UK under Middleham Park racing
Andrew how are you?
I have been waiting to ask a question, you always seemed so busy, maybe you may be able to find the answer for me?
I looked after a horse named Clovenford as a 2 year old in 1969. He won a race for me at Wolverhampton. He was sold over the winter and the only thing I heard about him afterwards was that he had won the Norwegian or the Swedish 2000 Guineas. Is that something you could find out?
I have been waiting to ask a question, you always seemed so busy, maybe you may be able to find the answer for me?
I looked after a horse named Clovenford as a 2 year old in 1969. He won a race for me at Wolverhampton. He was sold over the winter and the only thing I heard about him afterwards was that he had won the Norwegian or the Swedish 2000 Guineas. Is that something you could find out?
Hi Laurie,
Good to hear from you. Yes busy, work-wise at least.
I can try to find out, but maybe the forum gurus GED, Blackbarn et all have a better chance. All my form books are home in Sweden and i'm in Germany at the moment (I think you know).
Being the Swedish 2000 Guineas, of course they had to rename it ......
Jockeyklubbens Jubileumslopning
Good to hear from you. Yes busy, work-wise at least.
I can try to find out, but maybe the forum gurus GED, Blackbarn et all have a better chance. All my form books are home in Sweden and i'm in Germany at the moment (I think you know).
Being the Swedish 2000 Guineas, of course they had to rename it ......
Jockeyklubbens Jubileumslopning
Thanks Andrew. They may also have changed the horse's name and he may have only run in it not won it but I was told he won. I have my own formbooks etc but nothing Scandinavian. I will try the forum gurus but I may have to head towards the racing establishments to find out.
Laurie,
Clovenford won the Stockholm Cup in 1970 and again in 1971, but it was a DH in the latter.
International was added to the race name in 1979. It's a G3 today, but it wasn't back then. The race is for 3 year olds over 12f.
Clovenford won the Stockholm Cup in 1970 and again in 1971, but it was a DH in the latter.
International was added to the race name in 1979. It's a G3 today, but it wasn't back then. The race is for 3 year olds over 12f.
Laurie,
http://www.ovrevoll.no/PageFiles/143903/Kalender%20uke%2036.pdf#page=28
use the link to see results of the two races.
Here is a translation of the race history (using Google, so not the best).
For 3-year-olds and older horses. The question is whether there is any official debut year for this race, which is under its current name for the first time 1979. The race has its roots in the "Grand Prix" on Ulriksdal, which was first ridden in 1937 and then over 1800 m.
In 1951, the race was called for the "Stockholm race" which in 1956 was changed to the Stockholm Cup. The year before, 1955, is galloping history, and a price increase of "10 times the money" guaranteed for a large international field after that measure that had to make up over 2400 m. German Atatürk won, and until 1959, which was as long as one could financially endure with the race at the time Ulriksdal at the time, won foreign-trained horses at every opportunity except 1958, when a cheerful Swedish Stratos won under Albert Klimscha (father of Albert Jr.).
After a break in 1960-62, the race was resumed in 1963 at Täby Galopp, but then with a considerable more modestly priced, and it wasn't until 1975 that the next big lift came. At that time the race could be ridden under the sponsor name Silja Line International with a first prize of SEK 90,000, close enough to triple from the previous year, when it went as a handicap over 2000 gr.
Then came another historic year, namely in 1979, when 10,000 spectators flocked to Täby to see the first edition of Stockholm Cup International which with the help of point grants from ATG received a first prize of a quarter of a million. At the same time, a large international jockey tournament (All Star Jockey Special) with Lester Piggott, PatEddery, Willy Carson and the new star shot from the US, Steve Cauthen (also reported in this publication).
Stockholm Cup International is the first race in Scandinavia that received Gr3 status according to today's international rules. The year was 1991. Not since 1994 when the late great coach Michael Kahn saddled out Mr Eubanks for the win, a Swedish-trained winner has been able to be led into the winning circle.
http://www.ovrevoll.no/PageFiles/143903/Kalender%20uke%2036.pdf#page=28
use the link to see results of the two races.
Here is a translation of the race history (using Google, so not the best).
For 3-year-olds and older horses. The question is whether there is any official debut year for this race, which is under its current name for the first time 1979. The race has its roots in the "Grand Prix" on Ulriksdal, which was first ridden in 1937 and then over 1800 m.
In 1951, the race was called for the "Stockholm race" which in 1956 was changed to the Stockholm Cup. The year before, 1955, is galloping history, and a price increase of "10 times the money" guaranteed for a large international field after that measure that had to make up over 2400 m. German Atatürk won, and until 1959, which was as long as one could financially endure with the race at the time Ulriksdal at the time, won foreign-trained horses at every opportunity except 1958, when a cheerful Swedish Stratos won under Albert Klimscha (father of Albert Jr.).
After a break in 1960-62, the race was resumed in 1963 at Täby Galopp, but then with a considerable more modestly priced, and it wasn't until 1975 that the next big lift came. At that time the race could be ridden under the sponsor name Silja Line International with a first prize of SEK 90,000, close enough to triple from the previous year, when it went as a handicap over 2000 gr.
Then came another historic year, namely in 1979, when 10,000 spectators flocked to Täby to see the first edition of Stockholm Cup International which with the help of point grants from ATG received a first prize of a quarter of a million. At the same time, a large international jockey tournament (All Star Jockey Special) with Lester Piggott, PatEddery, Willy Carson and the new star shot from the US, Steve Cauthen (also reported in this publication).
Stockholm Cup International is the first race in Scandinavia that received Gr3 status according to today's international rules. The year was 1991. Not since 1994 when the late great coach Michael Kahn saddled out Mr Eubanks for the win, a Swedish-trained winner has been able to be led into the winning circle.
Another ex-Archie Watson 3 year old in the 14.11, My Motivate Girl.
Better form that his previous runner earlier on the card and has won on Tapeta at Wolverhampton.
Better form that his previous runner earlier on the card and has won on Tapeta at Wolverhampton.
I have just seen it Andrew. Thank you. What a star. Cloveford was the only horse my Dad, who was really ill, went to the races to watch. He loved it. He was a sprinter I thought being by Ennis. All these years and I never knew. Thank you forum.
Laurie,
I also meant to mention, he didn't win the Swedish 2000 Guineas. The winner in 1970 was Sterling Bay.
I was checking results of the above and noticed Jimmy Fortune won it in successive years.
I also meant to mention, he didn't win the Swedish 2000 Guineas. The winner in 1970 was Sterling Bay.
I was checking results of the above and noticed Jimmy Fortune won it in successive years.
Andrew, I am just pleased he won something of note. It was a long time ago and he was a sweet, good-tempered little horse.
Laurie,
Certainly a race of note, the largest prize in Sweden and he did it twice (one a DH).
A pity you didn't back him in 1970, odds of 24.7/1.
Certainly a race of note, the largest prize in Sweden and he did it twice (one a DH).
A pity you didn't back him in 1970, odds of 24.7/1.
I saw that Andrew. I'm afraid in the 70's contact wasn't so easy and any information was very hard to get. I can't remember who told me now. It must have been the boss. He wasn't sure what distance he needed and I thought he was sprinter.
Hearing that has really made my day. The one sad note is that my best mate who worked with me and we have been best friends ever since has dementia and doesn't remember him or his own horses. Really sad.
Hearing that has really made my day. The one sad note is that my best mate who worked with me and we have been best friends ever since has dementia and doesn't remember him or his own horses. Really sad.
That is how crazy some things are Andrew. If it wasn't for this coronavirus racing would still be on and no-one would be interested in Swedish racing hence I wouldn't have thought to ask you about a horse I looked after 51 years ago. Ain't life strange?
Just had a look at this and without being insulting...is there only a few triers?
Jockeys/drivers in positions they simply couldnt win from.
Jockeys/drivers in positions they simply couldnt win from.
Yes clearly a novice, but Ive just watched a race , 2 laps, where even by half way round the 2nd lap they are still sat like lemons, with one looping round the outside to go and win, you think everyone would want to pull out to deliver a challenge, even if it cant be sustained, rather than just sat with an a huge chance of being denied a run close to the inside?
Is it something to do with the trotting motion that stops them from quickening up when they fancy?
Is it something to do with the trotting motion that stops them from quickening up when they fancy?
Andrew would be the best person he may know,I've noticed after the start a lot seem to just give up and pull to one side.[mainly at the back]
If you get a poor position behind the start car it looks to be game over..
If you get a poor position behind the start car it looks to be game over..
Its interesting to see different things but just makes me grateful for the system we have minus the prize money side.
Big priced winner in the last box seat all the way round......
Good afternoon Guys,
I'm not a big follower of the trotting game these days although i used to play years ago and have seen a few 'Eliteloppets' (championship festivals once a year on last Friday-Sunday in May at Solvalla) albeit many years ago. This festival has runners from many countries in Europe.
Note that trotting and pacing (common in Australia) are not the same.
There are no seasons for trotting in Sweden, it's an every day sport.
You will have noticed there are two types of starts, volt and auto, the latter behind a car with gates as wings as opposed to volt that resemnbles a NH start in osme respects. There are also handicaps where some of the field start 20 or 40 metres off the front pack.
The draw is very important, inside having an obvious advantage, although only if the horse gets away (aka Chester). Like all horse racing, there are those that can win from way back off the pace, so don't be too put off by a draw in 12-15, but it takes a decent horse/ride to do it.
Here is text from Wikipedia (italics)
The start of the races and the starting position (which equals a certain number as explained previously) are indeed important, independent of the start method. A very good horse in a race with weak opponents but with a bad start number (like 12 or higher) may not become the prime favorite due to the bad starting position, especially at short distance.
After the start the drivers fight to get a good running position. How well this succeeds depends on the horse, the starting position and how the opponents drive their horses. Due to the sulky width and the oval race track overtaking is a far more difficult manoeuver to achieve, in comparison with gallop racing. The "running position fight" during start and the beginning of the race usually ends in the first turn.
After the initial fight for good running position, the horses usually form two rows or tracks. Good running positions are the leading position of the inner track or the second (or third) place in the outer track. This is explained with the fact that the outer track is close to 15 meter longer per lap, front running is always heavier compared with just follow behind (just like in cycling).
Positions in the inner track behind the leader may appear the best. But as described before, overtaking is not an easy manoeuver. And horses in the inner track may very well be trapped all the way to the finish, due to the horses and sulkies in the outer track. On the other hand, if an opening in the outer track appears close to the finish line, such a horse have had "an easy ride" with much strength left to give.
The leading position of the outer track, also known as the position of "death", is a very hard position to run and only very strong horses can win from this position. If a horse completes the race from the "death" position, commentators often point that out when announcing the KM pace of the horse.
On short distance (1640 meter), the horse that gets the leading position of the inner track has a very good chance to be the winner. At longer races (with rather even competitors) running positions like second or third in the outer track have good chances, especially if the inner track horses get trapped behind a weakening front horse.
The important thing for the jockey is to get the horse into a trotting rhythmn, you will have seen many 'gallop' for varying reasons, even on the run-in. A horse isn't immediately disqualified if it breaks into a gallop, it has to be pulled back and returned to trotting and some have won after galloping.
There are several reasons that can render a DQ.
From a betting perspective, most would be guessing unless you follow the sport/runners in Sweden, but don't be afraid to lay shorties, enough get beat. I also think that fancied runners on the inside are often over-bet.
I would rather be a layer than a backer, although horses like Mack Lobell and Queen L were money spinners back in time.
If you want to follow jockeys, look out for Erik Adielsson and Örjan Kihlström who would be akin to Jamie Spencer and late finishes, but much better at it.
If you want a couple of horses to follow, try Attraversiamo and Shocking Superman who may pay their way over the forthcoming months and could even be running at Åby this Saturday. Also look out for Propulsion who could be running at the same meeting.
Good luck all.
I'm not a big follower of the trotting game these days although i used to play years ago and have seen a few 'Eliteloppets' (championship festivals once a year on last Friday-Sunday in May at Solvalla) albeit many years ago. This festival has runners from many countries in Europe.
Note that trotting and pacing (common in Australia) are not the same.
There are no seasons for trotting in Sweden, it's an every day sport.
You will have noticed there are two types of starts, volt and auto, the latter behind a car with gates as wings as opposed to volt that resemnbles a NH start in osme respects. There are also handicaps where some of the field start 20 or 40 metres off the front pack.
The draw is very important, inside having an obvious advantage, although only if the horse gets away (aka Chester). Like all horse racing, there are those that can win from way back off the pace, so don't be too put off by a draw in 12-15, but it takes a decent horse/ride to do it.
Here is text from Wikipedia (italics)
The start of the races and the starting position (which equals a certain number as explained previously) are indeed important, independent of the start method. A very good horse in a race with weak opponents but with a bad start number (like 12 or higher) may not become the prime favorite due to the bad starting position, especially at short distance.
After the start the drivers fight to get a good running position. How well this succeeds depends on the horse, the starting position and how the opponents drive their horses. Due to the sulky width and the oval race track overtaking is a far more difficult manoeuver to achieve, in comparison with gallop racing. The "running position fight" during start and the beginning of the race usually ends in the first turn.
After the initial fight for good running position, the horses usually form two rows or tracks. Good running positions are the leading position of the inner track or the second (or third) place in the outer track. This is explained with the fact that the outer track is close to 15 meter longer per lap, front running is always heavier compared with just follow behind (just like in cycling).
Positions in the inner track behind the leader may appear the best. But as described before, overtaking is not an easy manoeuver. And horses in the inner track may very well be trapped all the way to the finish, due to the horses and sulkies in the outer track. On the other hand, if an opening in the outer track appears close to the finish line, such a horse have had "an easy ride" with much strength left to give.
The leading position of the outer track, also known as the position of "death", is a very hard position to run and only very strong horses can win from this position. If a horse completes the race from the "death" position, commentators often point that out when announcing the KM pace of the horse.
On short distance (1640 meter), the horse that gets the leading position of the inner track has a very good chance to be the winner. At longer races (with rather even competitors) running positions like second or third in the outer track have good chances, especially if the inner track horses get trapped behind a weakening front horse.
The important thing for the jockey is to get the horse into a trotting rhythmn, you will have seen many 'gallop' for varying reasons, even on the run-in. A horse isn't immediately disqualified if it breaks into a gallop, it has to be pulled back and returned to trotting and some have won after galloping.
There are several reasons that can render a DQ.
From a betting perspective, most would be guessing unless you follow the sport/runners in Sweden, but don't be afraid to lay shorties, enough get beat. I also think that fancied runners on the inside are often over-bet.
I would rather be a layer than a backer, although horses like Mack Lobell and Queen L were money spinners back in time.
If you want to follow jockeys, look out for Erik Adielsson and Örjan Kihlström who would be akin to Jamie Spencer and late finishes, but much better at it.
If you want a couple of horses to follow, try Attraversiamo and Shocking Superman who may pay their way over the forthcoming months and could even be running at Åby this Saturday. Also look out for Propulsion who could be running at the same meeting.
Good luck all.
I forgot to mention, if you want to read the previous form use the link that Happysandwich posted yesterday.
https://www.atg.se/sport#home
Simply go to the chosen race and click on name of the horse, all previous runs are shown.
If you want the tote win odds in descending order, click on 'V-odds' just above the column. If you want the horses in numerical draw, lick on 'hast'.
https://www.atg.se/sport#home
Simply go to the chosen race and click on name of the horse, all previous runs are shown.
If you want the tote win odds in descending order, click on 'V-odds' just above the column. If you want the horses in numerical draw, lick on 'hast'.
Boden 11.20 Yankee Blue
Apparently it won at this course last time out at odds on.
I remember going to a trotting meeting just outside Munich about 50 years ago.
All I remember about the day was a horse I backed leading coming round the last bend deliberately stopping to let all the others overtake.
Apparently it had broken into a gallop and was disqualified over the Tannoy. Never again.
Perfect for cheating on Betfair though.
Apparently it won at this course last time out at odds on.
I remember going to a trotting meeting just outside Munich about 50 years ago.
All I remember about the day was a horse I backed leading coming round the last bend deliberately stopping to let all the others overtake.
Apparently it had broken into a gallop and was disqualified over the Tannoy. Never again.
Perfect for cheating on Betfair though.
Ive had to stop watching this even in the background.
Watched a race yesterday where the handicapping was in place.
20m or something.
By the time the race had started one of the back starters was already in line and up with the front, sure enough was infront by the corner, stacked them up and that was it, a bit of a farce.
Watched a race yesterday where the handicapping was in place.
20m or something.
By the time the race had started one of the back starters was already in line and up with the front, sure enough was infront by the corner, stacked them up and that was it, a bit of a farce.
Ist race in Denmark yesterday was a TROTTING race but no carriages funniest thing I've seen for a while .........
Next race at Jagersro is a trotter with no carriages 18.05 ;)
U can also watch all Swedish racing on tote no need to place bet just open Acc tenner get tenner free bet
Simples
Simples
As above this is the best......
https://www.atg.se/sport#home
https://www.atg.se/sport#home
Andrew.in.Sweden Apr 20 12:55
If you want to follow jockeys, look out for Erik Adielsson and Örjan Kihlström who would be akin to Jamie Spencer and late finishes, but much better at it.
At Åby this evening
R5 Örjan Kihlström won @ 23.35/1 (strong finish)
R6 Erik Adielsson won @ 40.48/1
If you want to follow jockeys, look out for Erik Adielsson and Örjan Kihlström who would be akin to Jamie Spencer and late finishes, but much better at it.
At Åby this evening
R5 Örjan Kihlström won @ 23.35/1 (strong finish)
R6 Erik Adielsson won @ 40.48/1
Örjan Kihlström has some decent chances tonight.
A quality rider at one of the lessor tracks.
A quality rider at one of the lessor tracks.
Andrew.in.Sweden 20 Apr 20 12:55
If you want to follow jockeys, look out for Erik Adielsson and Örjan Kihlström who would be akin to Jamie Spencer and late finishes, but much better at it.
If you want a couple of horses to follow, try Attraversiamo and Shocking Superman who may pay their way over the forthcoming months.
A decent meeting at Sovalla with the Eliteloppet in mind. Both the above jockeys have won this evening, Erik twice @ odds of 29.36 and 5.52, the latter was Attraversiamo (2/2 this year). He could be a bet in the Eliteloppet final ante-post end of the month.
Shocking Superman runs later (8.26) and will be a decent price, he has an EW chance, but he will need to on top of his game to win.
If you want to follow jockeys, look out for Erik Adielsson and Örjan Kihlström who would be akin to Jamie Spencer and late finishes, but much better at it.
If you want a couple of horses to follow, try Attraversiamo and Shocking Superman who may pay their way over the forthcoming months.
A decent meeting at Sovalla with the Eliteloppet in mind. Both the above jockeys have won this evening, Erik twice @ odds of 29.36 and 5.52, the latter was Attraversiamo (2/2 this year). He could be a bet in the Eliteloppet final ante-post end of the month.
Shocking Superman runs later (8.26) and will be a decent price, he has an EW chance, but he will need to on top of his game to win.
Good morning Guys.
I guess most eyes will be on France and Germany today, but it's Eliteloppet day at Sovalla (Stockholm) Sweden, the biggest trotting weekend festival in Scandinavia. The meeting mainly concerns Swedish runners today as opposed to international runners (including USA) as per normal due to the C-19 virus restrictions on travel, although there are runners from Italy, Finland and Norway in the heats.
The Eliteloppet is the main race, consisting of 16 runners broken down into 2 heats (16.20 and 16.45 UK time) the first 4 going through to the final later in the day (19.30). The race is over the 'sprint' trip (1609 metres/1 mile) so inside draws are a bonus if getting away from the barrier although there will be jostling for lead position early, but with only 8 runners in each heat this is not a typical sized field.
Betfair cover the meeting, but it appears win only (a pity) hopefully they are aware the final is based on qualifying runners in earlier races. I was surprised there was no ante-post odds on here, although trotting this race is on a par with major flat races in Europe.
My previous posts on this thread mentioning jockeys and horses to follow has certainly provided some decent winners, and 2 of the 3 horses have actually reached the heats this afternoon, Attraversiamo and Propulsion via qualifying previous races.
Here is my take on the heats.
Heat 1 (16.20)
An open race where probably 5 of the field has a winnable chance.
The inside runner Vivid Wise As with one of trotting better jockeys, Björn Goop on board will be well fancied after winning the Grand Critérium de Vitesse Nice-Matin in France earlier in the year, but he's inconsistent, has some quick starters in adjacent draws and was disqualified in his last run. I would be a layer at odds if 5/2 or less.
Earl Simon finished runner-up behind Vivid Wise As in France and has won since, but will need a good start to win from draw 8.
My fancy to win this heat is Missile Hill who is ultra-consistent with a 5-2-2 record from his previous 9 races. Won easily last time out and in a good time. I would rather regular jockey Örjan Kihlström and i've no idea why he isn't as he has a ride in the 2nd heat.
Heat 2 (16.45)
A very open race where none of the field can be discounted.
Again the inside runner Elian Web will be well fancied and this one could lead as he has early speed from the barrier, but if he's headed before the bend his chance could be gone and there are a couple of strong finishers in this heat anyway. As with the previous heat i would be a layer at odds of 5/2 or below.
My fancy, not only for the heat but the final as well is Attraversiamo who is 2/2 since i put him up as one to follow (won at odds of 5.5 last time out). Eric Adielsson is one of the two jockeys i mentioned to follow. He won impressively last time out coming from off the pace in the straight and i feel he's way over priced around 8 on here. Winner of the Swedish Trotting Derby he has an overall record of 14 wins from 20 races.
Propulsion, my other horse (and jockey) to follow runs in this heat is far more experienced and running well although he tends to race over further these days. Not without a chance at similar odds to Attraversiamo and was actually runner up in the 2017 and 2018 Eliteloppet finals.
Final (19.30)
Attraversiamo (assuming he makes the final) irrespective of the draw.
Form and watch live here
https://www.atg.se/sport
Good luck if you play.
I guess most eyes will be on France and Germany today, but it's Eliteloppet day at Sovalla (Stockholm) Sweden, the biggest trotting weekend festival in Scandinavia. The meeting mainly concerns Swedish runners today as opposed to international runners (including USA) as per normal due to the C-19 virus restrictions on travel, although there are runners from Italy, Finland and Norway in the heats.
The Eliteloppet is the main race, consisting of 16 runners broken down into 2 heats (16.20 and 16.45 UK time) the first 4 going through to the final later in the day (19.30). The race is over the 'sprint' trip (1609 metres/1 mile) so inside draws are a bonus if getting away from the barrier although there will be jostling for lead position early, but with only 8 runners in each heat this is not a typical sized field.
Betfair cover the meeting, but it appears win only (a pity) hopefully they are aware the final is based on qualifying runners in earlier races. I was surprised there was no ante-post odds on here, although trotting this race is on a par with major flat races in Europe.
My previous posts on this thread mentioning jockeys and horses to follow has certainly provided some decent winners, and 2 of the 3 horses have actually reached the heats this afternoon, Attraversiamo and Propulsion via qualifying previous races.
Here is my take on the heats.
Heat 1 (16.20)
An open race where probably 5 of the field has a winnable chance.
The inside runner Vivid Wise As with one of trotting better jockeys, Björn Goop on board will be well fancied after winning the Grand Critérium de Vitesse Nice-Matin in France earlier in the year, but he's inconsistent, has some quick starters in adjacent draws and was disqualified in his last run. I would be a layer at odds if 5/2 or less.
Earl Simon finished runner-up behind Vivid Wise As in France and has won since, but will need a good start to win from draw 8.
My fancy to win this heat is Missile Hill who is ultra-consistent with a 5-2-2 record from his previous 9 races. Won easily last time out and in a good time. I would rather regular jockey Örjan Kihlström and i've no idea why he isn't as he has a ride in the 2nd heat.
Heat 2 (16.45)
A very open race where none of the field can be discounted.
Again the inside runner Elian Web will be well fancied and this one could lead as he has early speed from the barrier, but if he's headed before the bend his chance could be gone and there are a couple of strong finishers in this heat anyway. As with the previous heat i would be a layer at odds of 5/2 or below.
My fancy, not only for the heat but the final as well is Attraversiamo who is 2/2 since i put him up as one to follow (won at odds of 5.5 last time out). Eric Adielsson is one of the two jockeys i mentioned to follow. He won impressively last time out coming from off the pace in the straight and i feel he's way over priced around 8 on here. Winner of the Swedish Trotting Derby he has an overall record of 14 wins from 20 races.
Propulsion, my other horse (and jockey) to follow runs in this heat is far more experienced and running well although he tends to race over further these days. Not without a chance at similar odds to Attraversiamo and was actually runner up in the 2017 and 2018 Eliteloppet finals.
Final (19.30)
Attraversiamo (assuming he makes the final) irrespective of the draw.
Form and watch live here
https://www.atg.se/sport
Good luck if you play.
This is just a test because I keep getting ”You are not allowed to edit this post. Please go back.” every time I try to post.
If you can read this post Andrew your advice on clearing settings, clear browsing history, cookies, cached images and files from day 1
This is the machine I’m using:-
2019 Apple iMac 21.5 MRT42B/A All-in-One, Intel Core i5, 8GB RAM, 1TB Fusion Drive, Radeon Pro 560X, 21.5” 4K, Silver.
Looks like it has done the trick.
If you can read this post Andrew your advice on clearing settings, clear browsing history, cookies, cached images and files from day 1
This is the machine I’m using:-
2019 Apple iMac 21.5 MRT42B/A All-in-One, Intel Core i5, 8GB RAM, 1TB Fusion Drive, Radeon Pro 560X, 21.5” 4K, Silver.
Looks like it has done the trick.
Boga,
WD with the lay.
BSP 2.53 was way too short, he's not the horse he was and not the first time he's galloped. The two i mentioned finished 1 and 2, although i expected the other way around.
WD with the lay.
BSP 2.53 was way too short, he's not the horse he was and not the first time he's galloped. The two i mentioned finished 1 and 2, although i expected the other way around.
Both suggested lays were beaten and all 4 of my mentioned selections are in the final.
Earl Simon has the plum draw in 1, Mission Hill in 2 and Attraversiamo (my main fancy) the coffin box in 8 where he must surely be double figure odds, but if he's in contention in the final straight he has the finishing pace to win.
Earl Simon has the plum draw in 1, Mission Hill in 2 and Attraversiamo (my main fancy) the coffin box in 8 where he must surely be double figure odds, but if he's in contention in the final straight he has the finishing pace to win.
Revised draw for the Eliteloppet final.
1. Racing Mange
2. Earl Simon
3. Cokstile
4. Missile Hill
5. Sorbet
6. Propulsion
7. Milliondollarrhyme
8. Attraversiamo
One of the most open Eliteloppet finals in recent years with Earl Simon the expected favourite around 5/2. I would love to see Attraversiamo win, he's a horse i really like, but the draw is an issue and he will be better next year (inexperience). His odds reflect that, currently 16.2.
Propulsion will not be far away, but in any event i'm not sure if Betfair even know the final is at 19.30 (UK time).
1. Racing Mange
2. Earl Simon
3. Cokstile
4. Missile Hill
5. Sorbet
6. Propulsion
7. Milliondollarrhyme
8. Attraversiamo
One of the most open Eliteloppet finals in recent years with Earl Simon the expected favourite around 5/2. I would love to see Attraversiamo win, he's a horse i really like, but the draw is an issue and he will be better next year (inexperience). His odds reflect that, currently 16.2.
Propulsion will not be far away, but in any event i'm not sure if Betfair even know the final is at 19.30 (UK time).
6.45 another late suspension, race virtually over when suspended
Fair play to betfair at least they voided bets matched 'in running'
Andrew - u mentioned the winner. Great race and ride on the winner. Propulsion gets there late on
Thanks Kristin.
A good race, only a decent atmosphere was lacking (limited crowd due to C-19) it really is a big deal in Sweden. The nearest i can describe the race in a normal year is a White City Greyhound final.
I mentioned 3 horses to follow early on this thread and two reached the final with Propulsion given another mention today. A worthy winner after 2 runner-up positions in this race in 2017 and 2018 he looked the best horse in the finishing straight, but as so often in these one circuit 'sprints' you also need a touch of luck.
Attraversiamo ran very well from the 8 draw (BSP 38) but finished his race off strongly (couldn't get a clear run) to be a close up 3rd (no place betting on here). He could return to the Eliteloppet next year a better horse, but he will not be 37/1 then. Irrespective of this he can win a decent race in 2020.
A good race, only a decent atmosphere was lacking (limited crowd due to C-19) it really is a big deal in Sweden. The nearest i can describe the race in a normal year is a White City Greyhound final.
I mentioned 3 horses to follow early on this thread and two reached the final with Propulsion given another mention today. A worthy winner after 2 runner-up positions in this race in 2017 and 2018 he looked the best horse in the finishing straight, but as so often in these one circuit 'sprints' you also need a touch of luck.
Attraversiamo ran very well from the 8 draw (BSP 38) but finished his race off strongly (couldn't get a clear run) to be a close up 3rd (no place betting on here). He could return to the Eliteloppet next year a better horse, but he will not be 37/1 then. Irrespective of this he can win a decent race in 2020.
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