Betfair Sportsbook disgusting rip off attempt again

In your opinion it cant happen, it doesnt mean it wont happen, theyre a business and offer odds according to what they think will happen, i really dont see your argument

Maybe they will start doing unders/overs on 1,000 people a day dying of the virus?


There are some things it is not right to gamble on!

lord skywalker, read this article and there are others like it, all stating that mass production of a vaccine, even if tests are successful, is at least 12 to 18 months away! https://time.com/5804092/experimental-covid-19-vaccine-test-begins-as-u-s-vo...
It's not my opinion, but the opinion of scientists throughout the world. And Betfair think that 4/1 is realistic? Really?

best thing to do is forget all about the sportsbook, it's 100% mugs only over there, if you've any idea what you're doing they'll limit you to buttons in a heartbeat ...

Indeed forget 'sporstbook'. If they could they would take your money without a moment's hesitation. I think a bet of this nature ought to be reciprocated on The Exchange eg 'sportsbook' must open a 2-way book there otherwise its market should not be allowed to exist.

I agree with big aitch

I would prefer a market on the Kentucky Derby.

In neither case has the lay been available.







You can't lay bets on the Sportsbook only the Exchange.

Impossible123, 100$ correct, they should put the market on the exchange, but they wont as they know exactly what they're doing, laying a bet that can't win, which is against all of the laws of gambling,

few years back i inadvertently beat the exchange price on the sportsbook.  they printed off a picture of my face, pinned it to the wall and made every member of staff punch it on the way out.  dave from accounts fractured his hand, such was his fury.

They don't want to make you angry Hulk, they won't like you when you are angry

Betfair Sportsbook  are also offering Evens on Meghan Markle playing herself in a future series of the Crown.

An awful price made especially awful by the fact they have stated the current series will be the last.

Ask them for 1/6 for it not to happen - I'm sure they will lay it to make their book....

Equine - ask them for 4/6 for NO to help them make a book - again I'm certain they will accommodate...

A total non story, betfair offer odds on something happening and you either back it or you dont, simple as, why get worked up about something as trivial as a silly bet

If it's a non story why have you returned with more of your drivel? You're totally missing the point

Apr 14, 2020 -- 1:57PM, Magic__Daps wrote:

Ask them for 1/6 for it not to happen - I'm sure they will lay it to make their book....Equine - ask them for 4/6 for NO to help them make a book - again I'm certain they will accommodate...

They said yes
For 23p

Go into any local store that`s selling something for, say, £1, tell the owner `no, I don`t like the price, too expensive, so I have the right to sell you the same product for 99p and, if you don`t buy mine at 99p, then you have no right, as a business, to be selling them for £1` Ridiculous!

Its crazy betfair offering a price on something that cant happen, wow who wouldve thought it , what i do love about this forum is the abuse you get when you post a normal reply, i totally get your point but what i dont get is why are you moaning about it, bfair are free to offer any odds they want on anything just about
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Can someone add Lord Skywalker to the forum resident clown list please?

theres no lay on the sportsbook its a bookie

theres no lay on the sportsbook its a bookie

Ok then...with every will something happen YES...there should be a NO...

If something is 4/1 to happen an offer of NO at around 1/6 is more than fair to everyone.

They are taking a cut with an overround, and in the process giving the punters what they deserve, a CHOICE to whether something will or wont occur.

Obviously no lay but surely there should be a "No" market as well. Having it only one way is pretty poor and they deserve the flak they get.

why on earth are you callin me a clown ITSME , whats your problem?

Apr 14, 2020 -- 12:11PM, flushgordon1 wrote:

I would prefer a market on the Kentucky Derby.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, KD cancelled

Is the exact sort of rubbish we should be trying to discourage going forward:

"A total non story, betfair offer odds on something happening and you either back it or you dont, simple as, why get worked up about something as trivial as a silly bet"

Anything with a yes price should come with a no.

And then the sarcasm was poor.

Does anyone agree the odds for a vaccine for Covid-19 by year end 2020 and inventor bestowed a Nobel Prize in the same period is nothing less than 100/1? And, 'sportsbook' only offering 4/1; What a lot of charlatans!

More than anything id argue its bad taste.

The nobel prizes are issued on the 10th December this year.   Although a covid-19 vaccine is some time away from being "generally available", it is feasible that a cure could be found very quickly and limited testing proves positive.   That in itself would be a breakthrough.  No need for the month of mandatory testing and manufacturing to award the prize.   

Not saying it is a good bed but perhaps not impossible?

4/1? 'sportsbook' taking the mickey. And, that's 1.000000000000000000000000000001!

equine flow, would you take 100/1?

Wouldn't be the worst tenner I spent at 100/1

Scientists at the University of Oxford say they should have at least a million doses of a coronavirus vaccine by September this year.

The UK government, which is backing the project, said there were "no guarantees" and it was not possible to put a date on a vaccine.

The first patients are expected to take part in the Oxford trials next week.

However, it is still too soon to know whether it will be either safe or effective.


driver2 this would make your ranting and raving look a little silly to say the least, just because an expert says it cant happen doesnt mean it wont, do you apply this rationing in other forms of sport ?

Youve completely missed the point Lord.

I agree with Big H and foxy.

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Replies: 1560014 Apr 20 11:06 
Indeed forget 'sporstbook'. If they could they would take your money without a moment's hesitation

I will take your national hunt bets without a moment's hesitation from the moment it resumes, for as long as I (or you) live Imp.

Hth

Basically it should be a condition of license that if as a bookmaker you have to offer both YES and NO to any of these markets.

Lord skywalker - I doubt it will even be approved until 2021. It isn't just a case of get a million doses in September and then rolled out - now it may well be fast tracked and ready for October, but with the lack of all the health and safety testing and long term effects would they want to be giving out the Nobel in December for it? Whatever happens and even if it did win, 4/1 is put up for one reason only. Maybe ask for the price for 2021 and see what it is......

NEVIS B 18 Apr 20 06:00 
Basically it should be a condition of license that if as a bookmaker you have to offer both YES and NO to any of these markets.

laddbrokes offer 3/1 shergar to win the derby..where is the no?

surely the sportsbook and the exchange are 2 seperate concepts even though owned by the same company.

sportsbook is a traditional bookmaker

the exchange is a peer to peer betting platform

hth

craig you amaze me at times.

Now they're offering 4/1 about the inventor of the vaccine against covid 19 receiving the Nobel Prize in 2020. In neither case has the lay been available. I doubt whether anyone in the World, apart from the American Chump, has suggested that a vaccine will be available before the middle to end of 2021, so Betfair want us to bet on something that can't happen.


im not missing the point, it proberly wont happen and the odds should be more like 100/1 but it isnt impossible, you guys really need to get out more if this is what your reduced to moaning about.

Basically it should be a condition of license that if as a bookmaker you have to offer both YES and NO to any of these markets.

why ?

"so Betfair want us to bet on something that can't happen"


it can happen thats my point but highly unlikely 100s would be nearer the mark

You are an alien.

You arrive on Earth and go into a restaurant.

You order tomato soup as your starter.

You really enjoy it and think wow that was fantastic I must go and get more to take back to my spaceship.

You walk into Tesco and buy a tin for £25.

On the way back to your spaceship you forgot to buy your cigs so nip into the offy.

On the way to the counter you go by the soup and see exactly the same tin is £1.

Do you feel ripped off that as soon as you realise your item is worth a 1/25th of the value?



Id suggest they should put a sign up, mugs only please.

i dare say someone somewhere has backed this bet at 4/1 and seen the media hype and thought thats a good bet

its a mug punters bet for sure but to say it cant happen (driver2) isnt true and perhaps not a bet to put up given the current circumstances but driver's argument was it couldnt happen thus why are betfair offering odds

the exchange cant have a 1 only sided market..sportsbook can.

its not an exchange bet its on sportsbook only

and im getting abuse from formites who dont understand the diffrence

lord skywalker, read this article and there are others like it, all stating that mass production of a vaccine, even if tests are successful, is at least 12 to 18 months away! https://time.com/5804092/experimental-covid-19-vaccine-test-begins-as-u-s-volunteer-receives-first-shot/
It's not my opinion, but the opinion of scientists throughout the world. And Betfair think that 4/1 is realistic? Really?


The inventor of the vaccine against Covid-19 will receive a Nobel Prize in 2020  - 4/1

its says nothin about mass testing just if a inventor of a covid19 vaccine will receive a nobel prize, not the greatest bet in the world but what i dont understand is the constant moaning about it.

Did anyone despite?

My gripe is that they have no shame.

Do you think its right that they re selling something for a 10er thats has an actual value of anywhere in-between the region of 50 pence to £1?

Did anyone not understand*?

i beleive they are the only bookies offering odds on it apart from smarkets exchange, i agree its a bit tasteless but sportsbook has never been the greatest odds wise for anything but my original point was it can happen and wasnt impossible even though the odds are bad

how do you know aliens eat tomato soup?

Hong Kong Jockey Club has a 17.5% takeout for win betting. I checked the 9th race odds on offer on Sportsbook: 130% book.

That says it all.

Apr 19, 2020 -- 7:11AM, chavman wrote:

how do you know aliens eat tomato soup?

Eggzample only.

lord skywalker 14 Apr 20 13:14

"why get worked up about something as trivial as a silly bet"

Judging by the number of posts you made on this subject lord skywalker (12 in fact), I'd say that if anyone's getting worked up on here it's you old son!

lord skywalker18 Apr 20 22:27
i dare say someone somewhere has backed this bet at 4/1 and seen the media hype and thought thats a good bet

its a mug punters bet for sure but to say it cant happen (driver2) isnt true and perhaps not a bet to put up given the current circumstances but driver's argument was it couldnt happen thus why are betfair offering odds

And it may not happen so why are they not offering odds on the other side of the bet? I assume that is your wording that you think it should be more like 100/1 but are happy that a bookie is offering 4/1?

What is all this other side of bet stuff?
When do bookmakers offer prices on horses, greyhounds, or anything else not to win?

sparrow21 Apr 20 07:53
What is all this other side of bet stuff?
When do bookmakers offer prices on horses, greyhounds, or anything else not to win?


Ummmmmm - they offer the other horses or greyhounds in the race don't they...So you can bet on every outcome.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........The bookmaker determines what he wants to lay not you and if you don't like that way of betting then just bet on the exchanges.

You asked why they don't offer prices on horses not to win, I answered that perfectly (they do by pricing up the rest of the field). If it was a 2 horse race then they would both be priced up wouldn't they (unsure the last time there was a no offers race). Imagine there wouldn't be any uproar at all if a 2 horse race was priced up as 4/1 the outsider (who in theory should be 100/1 chance), and no betting on the other.

Ps - the market isn't on the exchanges is it, which shows exactly what a carve up it is.

It isn't on the exchanges because it's not a proper or serious bet. You are wanting to bet on something not happening that is a lay and bookmakers will tell you that is their domain not yours. If you're wanting to offer odds then you do it on an exchange that's the way it is whether you like it or not.

It has nothing to do with the exchange. You mentioned the exchanges where there isn't a market, pretty much proving the point that is a complete con job as it would probably show the true price.

The point is they are offering a one way market which is so underpriced it is unbelievable. Yet you seem happy enough that they can do that basically because it is up to them what they lay and if we don't like it then tough. As I said you don't get a 2 horse race like that as per your example - so what is the difference?

For example would you be happy if it was say a 2 horse race with Frankel v Bullet train and Bullet train was offered at 4/1 only (with no exchanges)?

The difference here is that I never bet with bookmakers and you seek to do all the time. You are wanting something that is not available and you and I both no why yet you still want to argue the point that it ought to be.

There is a bet on sportsbook at the moment under Betfair Specials, "UK to rejoin the EU before 2026"

              YES 1.1
               NO 6.0

Would anyone care to explain why they are not offering the NO on the virus bet, no? well I'll tell you, as I said when I opened this thread, they are trying to rip off as many uneducated punters as possible.

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The difference here is that I never bet with bookmakers and you seek to do all the time. You are wanting something that is not available and you and I both no why yet you still want to argue the point that it ought to be.


Seriously WTF.

1. I hardly bet with bookies as I cannot get on so it is generally pointless trying to in the first place (but well done on so say knowing exactly how I bet), I generally stick up for punters who cannot get on with them because of their "mugs only" policy. That has nothing to do with this market whatsoever, as I have no interest trying to bet in this market.

2. We both know why it isn't available?? I certainly do, it's because it is a complete con job, yet you seem to be saying it isn't and and it is fine to offer only one option on a 2 way market. It is disgraceful and shouldn't be allowed.

3. Would you be happy with bookies only laying one horse in a 2 horse race at a 20th of the price as per my example?

driver2 if people are silly enough to back ⁴this bet at 4/1 then thats their lookout, mug bets exist everywhere , bfair are free to offer whatever they please

Instead of venting your anger on here why not speak to bfair themselves

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2. We both know why it isn't available?? I certainly do, it's because it is a complete con job, yet you seem to be saying it isn't and and it is fine to offer only one option on a 2 way market. It is disgraceful and shouldn't be allowed.Magic__Daps



Of course it's a con job and where have I said it isn't?  I think no more about bookmakers practices than you do and refuse to give them any business and couldn't care less what they offer. You say it shouldn't be allowed but people on the whole are quite satisfied to continue betting with them and as far as I'm concerned there are fsr more important things to be concerned about than silly bets such as this.

It is not a bookmakers primary goal to offer prices on any event that directly reflect the likelihood of that outcome occurring. It would be much more accurate to say that they offer odds that they want the customer to take to enable the bookmaker to make a profit.

That's your 15th reply to a total "non story" lord skywalker and you still don't get it do you! We all know what bookmakers primary goals are, I've worked for enough of them in my younger days, but sometimes they cross the line and in this case Betfair have.
You're obviously pretty naive if you think that writing to Betfair will achieve anything, don't you know that they read our opinions? I much prefer to air my views in the public domain, it might save someone a few quid.

Wait a few months,there might be a covid vaccine/white Xmas specially enhanced double available.

BARROW....ladbrokes go 4\6

if a few thousand voiced their objection against it maybe but as your argument is in the minority i very much doubt it, i dont see many on this thread complaining about it for starters and i very much get your point but  i have better things to worry about than a poxy bad odds bet that may or may not cross the line when it comes to ethics, i think its you that doesnt get the point that the majority of punters on here couldnt give a stuff about it.