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Cork Langer
06 Apr 20 15:22
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Solve the anagrams and then answer the questions

Horse No    Anagram
   
1    Comic Place
2    Yankie Chat
3    Carl Cava
4    Chilled Skin
5    Alumnae Oma
6    Lady Huh
7    Red Hanger
8    Kylie Cat
9    Koalas Folk
11    General Code
12    Whiplash Drys
13     Minivan Oofs
14    Form Lid
15    Vet Atom
16    Wren Brey
17    Nisi Ink
18    Oil None
19    Brothy Banner
20    Crannies Caper
22    Fools Oven
23    Wandoo Pot
24    Tory
25    Amidst Own Food
   
Q1    Name the race, year and significance of it ?
   
Q2    Who owned three of the runners , name them and the owner ?
   
Q3    Two trainers had three entries each name them and their horses?
   
Q4    Three French jockeys rode in the race, name them ?
   
Q5    Three of the runners were trained in Ireland, name them ?   
   
Q6    Which horses finished 4th,5th & 6th, name them ?
   
Q7    Which horse refused to race ?
   
Q8    Which horse was trained in the North of England, name it and its trainer ?
   
Q9    What was the prize money for the winner ?
   
Q10    Four of the trainers had Champion Hurdle winners, name the trainers ?
   
Q11    Name all the trainers and jockeys that have not yet been answered ?
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Report chavman April 6, 2020 3:25 PM BST
7.hydrangea
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:26 PM BST
sorry incorrect chav
Report rooster booster April 6, 2020 3:34 PM BST
1: Accomplice
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
correct rooster wd
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
24..troy
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
correct lead on wd
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:37 PM BST
4..dickens hill
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:37 PM BST
correct again lead on
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:38 PM BST
5..ela mana mou
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:38 PM BST
think you have a fair idea now lead on, correct again
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:39 PM BST
q1..derby...1989...200th
Report rooster booster April 6, 2020 3:39 PM BST
14:Milord
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:39 PM BST
1979 I mean
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:39 PM BST
probably a typo there on the year
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:40 PM BST
close rooster you have left out the f...!
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:41 PM BST
Q1 all parts answered correctly by lead on
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:41 PM BST
12..lyphards wish...I backed him
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:42 PM BST
correct lead on
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:42 PM BST
17 niniski
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:43 PM BST
correct again
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:45 PM BST
7 hardgreen
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 6, 2020 3:45 PM BST
Question 1

Epsom Derby
1979
Willie Carsons first Derby winner
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:47 PM BST
couldn't name more than 3 of last year though!Happy
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:47 PM BST
7 correct lead on

sorry AIS lead on beat you to it, last part was 200th Derby
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:48 PM BST
same here lead on, would trust myself on 70's to 90's but struggle from then on...!
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:52 PM BST
man of vision..13...if that was john Dunlop's I backed it as well!
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 3:54 PM BST
correct lead on, not JD's, one of the few years when he didn't have a runner and I doubt there were many
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:57 PM BST
16..new berry
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 6, 2020 3:58 PM BST
14 Milford
23 Tap On Wood
Report lead on April 6, 2020 3:59 PM BST
northern baby..19
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 4:00 PM BST
all correct
Report rooster booster April 6, 2020 4:18 PM BST
14 Was a typo Cork but Andrew can have it Laugh
Report lead on April 6, 2020 4:20 PM BST
couldn't remember any more so watched it on youtube...the commentary was itv but im sure I watched it on bbc...the Peter Bromley commentary on the radio was quite stirring too,if I remember correctly
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 6, 2020 4:21 PM BST
Rooster, no you were close enough and i didn't look at previous answers.
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 4:21 PM BST
most gracious of you rooster, I am sure AIS will take great comfort from knowing that despite these difficult times, there are decent spirited people around...!
Report Andrew.in.Sweden April 6, 2020 4:24 PM BST
I also duplicated question 1 and got it wrong, well part of it Laugh
Report rooster booster April 6, 2020 4:24 PM BST
Is it just me or is it taking ages for pages to load occasionaly ?
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 4:26 PM BST
yes that youtube is a curse sometimes...! Fire away then lead on and fill in the gaps

Horse No Anagram    Answer
       
1    Comic Place    Accomplice
2    Yankie Chat   
3    Carl Cava   
4    Chilled Skin    Dickens Hill
5    Alumnae Oma    Ela Mana Mou
6    Lady Huh   
7    Red Hanger    Hardgreen
8    Kylie Cat   
9    Koalas Folk   
11    General Code   
12    Whiplash Drys    Lyphards Wish
13    Minivan Oofs    Man of Vision
14    Form Lid    Milford
15    Vet Atom   
16    Wren Brey    New Berry
17    Nisi Ink    Niniski
18    Oil None   
19    Brothy Banner    Northern Baby
20    Crannies Caper   
22    Fools Oven   
23    Wandoo Pot    Tap on Wood
24    Tory    Troy
25    Amidst Own Food   

Yes rooster it is very sloooooowwwww....!
Report lead on April 6, 2020 4:30 PM BST
having been unable to resist the urge to cheat and watch it I cant answer any more but I would have been able to answer one of the q3 trainers..still not sure of the other though
Report lead on April 6, 2020 4:31 PM BST
well...q3..Barry Hills    and Dick Hern?
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 4:35 PM BST
correct lead on, do you want to add their respective runners?
Report lead on April 6, 2020 4:42 PM BST
cracaval,tap on wood,two of diamonds

troy,milford and I cant remember the other...
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 4:44 PM BST
you guessed it earlier anyway, so we will give it to you, was Niniski
Report lead on April 6, 2020 4:55 PM BST
there were some cracking horses in that field...just watched the nexy year on youtube...Henbit from Master Willie...heard it on the radio but I think that's the first time ive seen it...incidentally just listened to Peter Bromley's Troy commentary..he tipped him the previous evening on radio 2.."I suggest Troy"...commentary great to listen to

Somehow don't think youll be running a quiz about the 2020 Derby!
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 5:03 PM BST
Wouldn't have the inclination to be honest, probably an age thing, today's crop and indeed those for the last couple of decade's do not get me excited in the same way memories of the old times still can, be lucky if there is any racing before the end of July would be my current guess, so it won't be an issue...!
Report dt01 April 6, 2020 5:36 PM BST
HERE IS A PROPER PUZZLE, for the older intelligent among us, have a look at the DOGSMEAD PUZZLE.
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 7:36 PM BST
This is where mostly "lead on" got to with a little input from rooster and AIS

Horse No Anagram    Answer
       
1    Comic Place    Accomplice
2    Yankie Chat   
3    Carl Cava    Cracaval
4    Chilled Skin    Dickens Hill
5    Alumnae Oma    Ela Mana Mou
6    Lady Huh   
7    Red Hanger    Hardgreen
8    Kylie Cat   
9    Koalas Folk   
11    General Code   
12    Whiplash Drys    Lyphards Wish
13    Minivan Oofs    Man of Vision
14    Form Lid    Milford
15    Vet Atom   
16    Wren Brey    New Berry
17    Nisi Ink    Niniski
18    Oil None   
19    Brothy Banner    Northern Baby
20    Crannies Caper   
22    Fools Oven   
23    Wandoo Pot    Tap on Wood
24    Tory    Troy
25    Amidst Own Food    Two of Diamonds

I had thought that with lead on and AIS cracking the identity of the race that the answers would be easily guessed, but maybe I over estimated peoples memories, after all 1979 isn't that long ago is it....?
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 7:47 PM BST
06. Halyudh
18. Noelino
22. Son Of Love
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 7:51 PM BST
All correct gibberish
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:27 PM BST
Cork - I don't understand what you're asking in some of the questions eg. Q7 - which horse refused to race..in a race
in which Hardgreen ran?

I'll have a guess at Jellaby - I seem to recall a troublesome grey horse who used to run in his grade at that time.

These have got me fcuked...I think we'll need some clues like 3,2,4 for Son Of Love.
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:28 PM BST
Q6  Which horses finished 4th,5th & 6th, name them ? I'm lost Confused
Report lead on April 6, 2020 8:33 PM BST
Q6
Ela mana mou
Lyphards Wish
Hardgreen
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:36 PM BST
Lead On - so all those extra questions are about the 1979 Derby?
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 8:37 PM BST
gibberish, by solving the anagrams you then move onto the questions, lead on already answered Q1 which identified that the anagrams relate to the 1979 Epsom Derby which was the 200th won by Troy, all the other questions then relate to said race and runners, the numbers on the anagrams being the saddle cloths the respective horses carried ie no number 10 or 21.
Q3 was also answered by lead on
Report lead on April 6, 2020 8:38 PM BST
All relate to the 1979 Derby
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 8:39 PM BST
correct lead on I hope you didn't watch the youtube clip again...!
Report lead on April 6, 2020 8:39 PM BST
Cant work out the northern horse,though
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:47 PM BST
Fack me! Am I slow or what? I can get the odd anagram (I got three...without having a clue) but understanding the question is my biggest flaw Blush
Just realised another clue then...they'll be alphabetically numbered as they carried the same weight so that should help a bit.

11. Leodegrance
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 8:49 PM BST
you're there now gibberish, well done, 11 is correct...!
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:50 PM BST
9. Lasko Floko
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 8:51 PM BST
correct
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:51 PM BST
Some of those names I've genuinely not heard of for 40 years! Grin
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:53 PM BST
I can't stop seeing Persian & Prince in No.20 - it's really bugging me!
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 8:54 PM BST
Unfortunately some of them do not deserve to be remembered, 2 and 20 I would say were the most difficult of the lot, 8 and 15 not so hard
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 8:56 PM BST
Prince is correct that should enable you to work out the first word rather than you get a headache over it...!
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 8:57 PM BST
Is it just 2,8,15 & 20 to go?

Q10. One of them must be Stoute and the other tricky Northern one must be Peter Easterby.

See? I'm getting it now Grin
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:01 PM BST
Yes they are the only anagrams to get and not surprisingly three of them were 500/1 shots which helps explain why they are more difficult to remember as we probably all ignored them on the day.
Stoute is correct but Easterby is wrong
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 9:17 PM BST
Not Easterby?

I'd say Vincent O'Brien, but I can't remember who he trained in that race...none of them so far ring a bell.

Since you gave me the 'Prince' bit for the second word, it's gotta be Saracen Prince...but I've never heard of it.

Who's the Northern trainer...was it a 500/1 shot you mentioned?

I'm embarrassed for not understanding the thread...that's what happens when you jump in half way through.
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:23 PM BST
No need to be embarrassed, you have answered more than some Saracen Prince and VOB are correct so you have two of the trainers now, and yes the Northern trained horse was a 500/1 shot, the guy who trained it was based in Bishop Auckland
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 9:28 PM BST
Who was Vincent's horse?

I have a vague recollection that Bishop Auckland was a jumps stable but it's not coming to me - I'm guessing that's not just the Northern horse but the Champion Hurdle winning trainer.
Report rooster booster April 6, 2020 9:30 PM BST
Are the initials DS Cork?
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:30 PM BST
Horse No    Anagram    Answer
       
1    Comic Place    Accomplice
2    Yankie Chat   
3    Carl Cava    Cracaval
4    Chilled Skin    Dickens Hill
5    Alumnae Oma    Ela Mana Mou
6    Lady Huh    Halyudh
7    Red Hanger    Hardgreen
8    Kylie Cat   
9    Koalas Folk    Laska Floko
11    General Code    Leodegrance
12    Whiplash Drys    Lyphards Wish
13    Minivan Oofs    Man of Vision
14    Form Lid    Milford
15    Vet Atom   
16    Wren Brey    New Berry
17    Nisi Ink    Niniski
18    Oil None    Noelino
19    Brothy Banner    Northern Baby
20    Crannies Caper    Saracen Prince
22    Fools Oven    Son Of Love
23    Wandoo Pot    Tap on Wood
24    Tory            Troy
25    Amidst Own Food    Two of Diamonds

Q1    Name the race, year and significance of it ?    200th Derby in 1979
               
Q2    Who owned three of the runners , name them and the owner ?           
               
Q3    Two trainers had three entries each name them and their horses ?    Barry Hills/Dick Hern Milford/Niniski/Troy/Cracaval/Tap on Wood/Two of Diamonds
               
Q4    Three French jockeys rode in the race, name them ?           
               
Q5    Three of the runners were trained in Ireland, name them ?              
               
Q6    Which horses finished 4th,5th & 6th, name them ?            Ela-Mana-Mou/Lyphard's Wish/Hardgreen
               
Q7    Which horse refused to race ?           
               
Q8    Which horse was trained in the North of England, name it and its trainer ?           
               
Q9    What was the prize money for the winner ?           
               
Q10     Four of the trainers had Champion Hurdle winners, name the trainers ?            Vincent O'Brien/Micheal Stoute/
               
Q11    Name all the trainers and jockeys that have not yet been answered ?
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:32 PM BST
Yes rooster DS correct, VOB's horse makes up part of Q5 so I won't reveal that at the moment...!
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 9:37 PM BST
Don't know which one was Stoute's either...please tell, unless it's part of the other clues.
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:42 PM BST
Stoute's runner was Hardgreen who finished 6th
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 9:45 PM BST
Thanks Cork - I remember the horse but didn't have it as a Stoute horse - who owned it?
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:47 PM BST
was owned by a Mr G White
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 9:49 PM BST
Never heard of him - I'd only been into racing about a year at that point and I can still remember quite a bit, though I can't recall Hardgreen's colours at all.
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 9:57 PM BST
The colours I have are grey body, yellow sleeves with a grey and yellow checked cap, can't say I recall said owner or colours though
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 10:01 PM BST
Thanks Cork - no recollection at all.

PS - I got mixed up earlier with Hardgreen about a horse being left in the stalls...was I dreaming about Jellaby or is that correct?
I have a very vague memory of Jellaby being riderless in a race Confused
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 10:21 PM BST
Jellaby unseated Brian Taylor when looking all over the winner in the 78 Lockinge at Newbury, Don ridden by Brian Rouse and trained by Bill Elsey from up north being the beneficiary of Jellaby's waywardness
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 10:22 PM BST
GTFI 8. Lake City!
I can remember he was half decent so he definitely wouldn't have been one of the 500/1 pokes
and I don't think he was Vincent's either...Paul Kellaway's?

I'm absolutely out of gas on the others...when are we gonna find out?
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 10:22 PM BST
Thanks Cork - mystery solved Happy
Report Cork Langer April 6, 2020 10:29 PM BST
well done gibberish, can't disclose the trainer as it refers to one of the questions, I will tell you that Paul Kelleway did have a runner but not that one and to put you out of your misery so you do not have nightmares I will reveal one of the unsolved anagrams 2) Chetinkaya, the other relates to a question though, I have to retire now as I am up at 4 but will give all the answers tomorrow afternoon, sleep well...!
Report Gibberish April 6, 2020 10:43 PM BST
Never heard of it - thanks for the analgram nonsense...it helps keep the noggin active Wink
Report lead on April 7, 2020 12:16 PM BST
Are you counting Q7 trainer as on of the Champion Hurdle winners?
Report lead on April 7, 2020 1:29 PM BST
Is Tony Shead the answer to Q2?
Report Cork Langer April 7, 2020 5:44 PM BST
Apologies lead on Q7 wording is a little ambiguous it should have said trained a Champion Hurdle winner, so the guy you are referring to is not included in the four.

Tony Shead is indeed correct for Q2, well done
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