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stridingedge
24 Feb 20 18:42
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?

You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.

Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection

Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report uptheboro February 24, 2020 7:31 PM GMT
In Demand - 3.30 Lingfield

Cheers
Report angeleyz February 24, 2020 9:11 PM GMT
my target - 3.00 lingfield place lay

ty striding
Report PENLLWYN February 24, 2020 9:24 PM GMT
Ling 3.30 in demand
Report madhatter February 24, 2020 9:45 PM GMT
Absolutely Dylan [place] - 4.15 Catterick please se
Sub: Genuine Approval [place] - 3.30 Lingfield
Report hello :-) February 25, 2020 12:32 AM GMT
bythebay 16 30 lingfield cheers striding
Report SontaranStratagem February 25, 2020 1:52 AM GMT
Dark Vader 4:00 Lingfield

Thanks SE
Report posy February 25, 2020 8:39 AM GMT
noble peace  15.00lin  @ 5.3  lpm
Report sonofshinner February 25, 2020 8:54 AM GMT
ashutor 3.15 catt. place lay..cheers stride...
Report Celeric February 25, 2020 8:57 AM GMT
3.00 lingfield Noble Peace @ 5.1
Report china castle February 25, 2020 9:28 AM GMT
In Demand - 3.30 Lingfield  Place

Thanks
Report exactaman February 25, 2020 10:05 AM GMT
3.15 Catt | Ashutor |

Many Thx Striding
Report east end boy February 25, 2020 10:14 AM GMT
2.30 Believe in love ( place )
Report happysandwich February 25, 2020 10:15 AM GMT
Catterick 2.45 Sincerely Desdev

Sub :

Lingfield 5.00 Bold Decision

Good luck all.
Report Airman February 25, 2020 10:25 AM GMT
Ling 16:00 Auchterarder - Place, thanks SE.
Report flushgordon1 February 25, 2020 10:50 AM GMT
Ashutor- Catt 3.15
Report bustino February 25, 2020 11:03 AM GMT
My Target     -  3.00 Lingfield   place lay plz
Report OilyWragg February 25, 2020 11:16 AM GMT
4.15 Catterick Granger Ranger, place market. Thank you.
Report flatcap February 25, 2020 11:18 AM GMT
2.30L Visibility 2TBP

Reserve

4.00L Dark Vader

Thanks Striding
Report Andrew.in.Sweden February 25, 2020 11:33 AM GMT
The Composeur - 4.45 Catterick

Good luck all
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 25, 2020 11:33 AM GMT
Dark Vader. - 4-0 Lingfield @ 2.76.

Thanks SE. Happy
Report Lucky Luciano February 25, 2020 12:03 PM GMT
Believe in love place 230 ling
Res the composer 445 Catt
Tks striding
GL all
Report Aquarius February 25, 2020 12:19 PM GMT
Exit To Where - 3.45 Catterick (place)
Report madhatters February 25, 2020 12:28 PM GMT
Saint Sonnet 3.45 Cat
Pl lay

In case its homesick Grin
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 12:32 PM GMT
MY choices are all risky that I wouldn't touch with real money. Cry

To sit out and use up last No Show or not sit out that is the question!, I really want to get back at least to levels this month.

VWD Posy on the 20 on the bounce at 9/2 avg odds not too shabby at all. Cool
Report pumphol. February 25, 2020 12:34 PM GMT
The Composeur - 4.45 Catt @ 2.9

Thanks
Report madhatters February 25, 2020 12:42 PM GMT
Good turn round from the man from the Dirty Dozen
Must have stopped shaving for the month Laugh
I did say i was after his place with under 2.0 tactics which need a rethink
Or maybe will level out - eventually Grin
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
I think a mix for me Hatters obviously around 6/4 Avg is my want but plenty of days there just isn't a strong one so have gone a bit bigger.

Real match play scenario with the tactics and of course at the end there will always be plenty of hail Mary's chucked around for the big scores.

Just want to start on the right foot in March without the dreaded 2 W's as has happened Jan and Feb, puts you on the backfoot.
Report hong kong fooey February 25, 2020 12:56 PM GMT
Genuine Approval - 3.30 Ling ,place lay
Report madhatters February 25, 2020 12:57 PM GMT
Managed to read your MJ race rightish last night
So hope there, albeit by a hd only Grin
You gonna run this in March ?
Report invicta February 25, 2020 12:58 PM GMT
Calidus Mirabilis 2.30 Lingfield

thanks  striding.
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 1:02 PM GMT
I think I got that MJ horse right too Hatters for me a doubtful stayer at present with the trip (it may strengthen up a bit eventually but not convinced.) Wink They changed the tactics to the yard's default front running and it got eaten up to finish last it did look like one of his that bombs. I would think they would come back in trip again and front run and it could be very different especially going on the turf.

Yes defo running this march will see beyond that not sure.
Report FOYLESWAR February 25, 2020 1:04 PM GMT
16.30 lingfield .bythebay.@ 1.99
Report stewarts rise February 25, 2020 1:05 PM GMT
Againn Dul Aghaidh 4.15 Catterick-place market.

Thanks SE.
Report rob22 February 25, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
Genuine Approval 3.15 Ling 5.3
Thanks
Report rob22 February 25, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
Sorry 3.30 Ling
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 1:38 PM GMT
15:15 Catt Cuban Sun (p)

Dubious about this one's ability to handle conditions today. I like horses in these NH conditions to have won over 12f+ and be proven on the testing ground, the sire record for progeny on soft through to hvy is pretty poor too.

Nicholls horse all being well and no accidents definitely places in this race for me and I hope KD's is fit because conditions would pose no problems and he does well with this type from flat to hdls.Keighley horse unfortunately similar doubts to selection though soft has been ok.

All in all this isn't in the sweet spot by any means and I'd rather the price was nearer evens to place but I'll take a chance it gets bogged down under conditions.
Report Deplasterer February 25, 2020 1:41 PM GMT
2.30 Lingfield, Caridus Mariblus. Place lay.

Ta SE.
Report Movewiththetimes February 25, 2020 1:52 PM GMT
Above Board (place) Catterick 16-15 Thanks SE.

Couldn't find a fav to take on evens or below so gone for a place lay today, was my undoing last month so hoping it don't return. GL All.
Report dukeofpuke February 25, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
2.30 Visibility
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 2:01 PM GMT
CLOSED
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 2:06 PM GMT


    Entrant        Selection (with price taken)        Sub 1 (with price taken)        Sub 2 (with price taken)        Rank         Bank    
                                               
    Lucky Luciano        14:30 Ling Believe In Love 0.00        16:45 Catt The Composeur 0.00                19        £962.70   
    east end boy        14:30 Ling Believe In Love (p) 0.00                        12        £1046.14   
    Invicta        14:30 Ling Calidus Mirabilis 0.00                        30        £895.91   
    Deplasterer        14:30 Ling Calidus Mirabilis (p) 0.00                        38        £771.19   
    dukeofpuke        14:30 Ling Visibility 0.00                        9        £1074.21   
    Flatcap        14:30 Ling Visibility (p) 0.00        16:00 Ling Dark Vader 0.00                6        £1149.23   
    happysandwich        14:45 Catt Sincerely Resdev 0.00        17:00 Ling Bold Decision 0.00                14        £1014.89   
    Bustino        15:00 Ling My Target (p) 0.00                        2        £1264.56   
    angeleyz        15:00 Ling My Target (p) 0.00                        37        £775.90   
    posy        15:00 Ling Noble Peace 5.30                        3        £1247.11   
    Celeric        15:00 Ling Noble Peace 5.10                        7        £1116.09   
    exactaman        15:15 Catt Ashutor 0.00                        39        £681.90   
    flushgordon1        15:15 Catt Ashutor 0.00                        5        £1154.77   
    sonofshinner        15:15 Catt Ashutor (p) 0.00                        40        £666.86   
    stridingedge        15:15 Catt Cuban Sun (p) 0.00                        22        £942.43   
    rob22        15:30 Ling Genuine Approval 0.00                        20        £958.35   
    hong kong fooey        15:30 Ling Genuine Approval (p) 0.00                        15        £1014.55   
    uptheboro        15:30 Ling In Demand 0.00                        33        £836.45   
    PENLLWYN        15:30 Ling In Demand 0.00                        28        £907.53   
    china castle        15:30 Ling In Demand (p) 0.00                        18        £963.82   
    Aquarius        15:45 Catt Exit To Where (p) 0.00                        27        £915.32   
    madhatters        15:45 Catt Saint Sonnet (p) 0.00                        36        £785.23   
    Airman        16:00 Ling Auchterarder (p) 0.00                        8        £1094.32   
    GLASGOWCALLING        16:00 Ling Dark Vader 2.76                        25        £918.68   
    SontaranStratagem        16:00 Ling Dark Vader 0.00                        29        £898.03   
    Movewiththetimes        16:15 Catt Above Board (p) 0.00                        1        £1377.52   
    madhatter        16:15 Catt Absolutely Dylan (p) 0.00        15:30 Ling Genuine Approval (p) 0.00                4        £1238.97   
    stewarts rise        16:15 Catt Againn Dul Aghaidh (p) 0.00                        11        £1054.03   
    OilyWragg        16:15 Catt Granger Ranger (p) 0.00                        17        £978.78   
    Hello:-)        16:30 Ling Bytheby 0.00                        35        £798.82   
    FOYLESWAR        16:30 Ling Bytheby 1.99                        13        £1041.19   
    pumphol        16:45 Catt The Composeur 2.90                        21        £955.63   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        16:45 Catt The Composeur 0.00                        26        £918.49   
    Cheify        No Selection 0.00                        32        £878.40   
    The Norfolk Mafia        No Selection 0.00                        10        £1063.20   
    11kv        No Selection 0.00                        24        £919.72   
    The Management        No Selection 0.00                        34        £806.03   
    cardenden        No Selection 0.00                        23        £928.01   
    MinnieLAI        No Selection 0.00                        31        £892.26   
    smirnoff2therescue        No Selection 0.00                        16        £1011.43   




GL All Wink
Report stewarts rise February 25, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
At least nobody has picked the 1/16 shot hoping that it will fall!
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 2:09 PM GMT
Yes indeed.
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 3:21 PM GMT
Ropey opposition always a killer. Cry
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 5:23 PM GMT


    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    11kv        No Selection                                                                   
    Airman        Auchterarder (p)        16:00 Ling        2.44        2.44        1        /        7        38.00        -54.72   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        The Composeur        16:45 Catt        2.70        2.70        7        /        9        27.01        26.47   
    angeleyz        My Target (p)        15:00 Ling        3.90        3.90        4        /        7        13.38        13.11   
    Aquarius        Exit To Where (p) VOID        15:45 Catt        6.60        6.60        5        /        5                   
    Bustino        My Target (p)        15:00 Ling        3.90        3.90        4        /        7        21.80        21.37   
    cardenden        No Selection                                                                   
    Celeric        Noble Peace        15:00 Ling        5.10        4.30        3        /        7        13.61        13.34   
    Cheify        No Selection                                                                   
    china castle        In Demand (p)        15:30 Ling        1.31        1.31        2        /        12        155.46        -48.19   
    Deplasterer        Calidus Mirabilis (p)        14:30 Ling        1.85        1.85        4        /        6        45.36        44.46   
    dukeofpuke        Visibility        14:30 Ling        4.36        4.36        3        /        6        15.99        15.67   
    east end boy        Believe In Love (p)        14:30 Ling        2.49        2.49        2        /        6        35.11        -52.31   
    exactaman        Ashutor        15:15 Catt        1.39        1.39        1        /        6        87.42        -34.10   
    Flatcap        Visibility (p)        14:30 Ling        2.38        2.38        3        /        6        41.64        40.81   
    flushgordon1        Ashutor        15:15 Catt        1.39        1.39        1        /        6        148.05        -57.74   
    FOYLESWAR        Bythebay        16:30 Ling        1.99        2.47        2        /        12        52.59        51.53   
    GLASGOWCALLING        Dark Vader        16:00 Ling        2.76        2.36        2        /        7        26.10        25.58   
    happysandwich        Sincerely Resdev VOID        14:45 Catt        7.20        7.20        7        /        10                   
    Hello:-)        Bythebay        16:30 Ling        2.47        2.47        2        /        12        27.17        26.63   
    hong kong fooey        Genuine Approval (p)        15:30 Ling        2.92        2.92        3        /        12        26.42        -50.73   
    Invicta        Calidus Mirabilis        14:30 Ling        3.03        3.03        4        /        6        22.07        21.63   
    Lucky Luciano        Believe In Love        14:30 Ling        5.44        5.44        2        /        6        10.84        10.62   
    madhatter        Absolutely Dylan (p)        16:15 Catt        2.24        2.24        4        /        10        49.96        48.96   
    madhatters        Saint Sonnet (p)        15:45 Catt        1.15        1.15        1        /        5        261.74        -39.26   
    MinnieLAI        No Selection                                                                   
    Movewiththetimes        Above Board (p)        16:15 Catt        3.50        3.50        6        /        10        27.55        27.00   
    OilyWragg        Grange Ranger (p)        16:15 Catt        3.75        3.75        2        /        10        17.80        -48.94   
    PENLLWYN        In Demand        15:30 Ling        2.42        2.42        2        /        12        31.96        31.32   
    posy        Noble Peace        15:00 Ling        5.30        4.30        3        /        7        14.50        14.21   
    pumphol        The Composeur        16:45 Catt        2.90        2.70        7        /        9        25.15        24.65   
    rob22        Genuine Approval        15:30 Ling        5.30        10.37        3        /        12        11.14        10.92   
    smirnoff2therescue        No Selection                                                                   
    sonofshinner        Ashutor (p)        15:15 Catt        1.16        1.16        1        /        6        208.39        -33.34   
    SontaranStratagem        Dark Vader        16:00 Ling        2.36        2.36        2        /        7        33.02        32.36   
    stewarts rise        Againn Dul Aghaidh (p)        16:15 Catt        2.88        2.88        P        /        10        28.03        27.47   
    stridingedge        Cuban Sun (p)        15:15 Catt        2.10        2.10        2        /        6        42.84        -47.12   
    The Management        No Selection                                                                   
    The Norfolk Mafia        No Selection                                                                   
    uptheboro        In Demand        15:30 Ling        2.42        2.42        2        /        12        29.45        28.86   




Thread Total £90.51
Month Total -£990.83
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 5:32 PM GMT
Table is up
Cheers All.
Report happysandwich February 25, 2020 5:45 PM GMT
Striding,

I thought that because my first selection (Sincerely Resdev) was Void due to 7.2 price my Sub (Bold Decision) became the selection?
Report ProSniper February 25, 2020 6:00 PM GMT
stridey must bring his fried brain back and sort this confusion out Mischief
Report stridingedge February 25, 2020 6:04 PM GMT
Yes you thought right. Apologies.



    happysandwich        Bold Decision        17:00 Ling        3.74        3.74        8        /        11        18.52        18.15   




Will post your new table standing on your comps too.
Cheers
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