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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.
How many selections must be made?
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.
The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection
Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.
Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?
You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.
Are win and place markets settled in the same way?
Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.
When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)
A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.
The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).
In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.
Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.
Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.
Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.
Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection
Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.
Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!
In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.
How are selections staked and returns calculated?
Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.
Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.
Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.
Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?
The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
How many selections must be made?
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.
The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection
Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.
Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?
You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.
Are win and place markets settled in the same way?
Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.
When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)
A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.
The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).
In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.
Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.
Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.
Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.
Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection
Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.
Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!
In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.
How are selections staked and returns calculated?
Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.
Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.
Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.
Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?
The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Fly True - 4.40 Southwell Place Market
Cheers Striding |
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South 2pm Sambucca Spirit
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Duc De Bourbon 4.00 Kempton
thanks striding. |
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Global Society - 1.50 Kempton please se
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touch kick - 3.30 kempton place lay
ty striding |
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If You Say Run- Bang 1.40
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Bangor 3.15 Minella Trump
Sub : Kempton 1.50 Ofalltheginjoints Thanks Striding. |
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16.40 Southwell The Eagles Nest
Ta |
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Annie Mc - 1.40 Bangor
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If You Say Run 1:40 Bangor
Thanks SE Its head to head, Norfolk  |
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Oh dear just seen last 2 picks. 13.40 Bangor Annie Mc sub1 15.05 Southwell Elhafei place sub2 13.50 Kempton Sant de Reve place
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May not be able to play Sat and Sun off to the beach, (38C phew) lucky if I get any internet.
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Bang.2.10 High Counsel @5 cheers stride...
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Annie Mc - 1.40 Bangor-On-Dee
Good luck all |
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1.40 Bangor Annie Mc @ 2.02
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20.00 dundalk american lady @ 2.1
reserve .annie mc 1.40 bangor |
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al suil eile 15.40sou @ 5.6
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7.45 Chelmsford Broughton Excels 4.1 thank you.
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1.20 Kempton Fair Kate
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Sorry posted this on Thursdays thread.
Bold Decision 4.35 Chelm @ 2.3 |
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Letmestopyouthere. 4-40 South @ 5.8.
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Chelmsford 19:15 Lalania - Place Many thanks SE
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On The Slopes - 2.25 Kempton (3.85)
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Three C's 4.40 Southwell place lay
Res A Knights Tale 2.35 Southwell place lay Thanks |
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1.50 Kempton Global Society place market plz
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Stratagem 4.20 bangor
Reserve, bob and co 2.45 Bangor Tks for running this striding GL all and Happy Friday |
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2.25K. Not That Fuisse 3.7LPM
Reserve 2.00S. Final Legacy 3TBP Thanks Striding |
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Good morning all,
What I find interesting about Striding’s thread is the different strategies everybody uses and that over 50% are now showing an overall profit. For example yesterday east end boy picked Hang On In There (8/1 3rd Fav) on the place market in a 5 runner field with Shiskin the ½ Fav Glasgow, “my nephew has just been sent to Pitea for Work, was -16 the other day,” I read that as Pitsea (in Essex) and it was his birthday and thought what kind of family would do such a thing.  |
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Sorry wrong thread. Should have been Andrews.  |
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4.10 Southwell | Tynecastle Park | Place lay |
Many Thx Striding |
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Imperial Elysian - 2.55 Kempton - 3 place market
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3.05 Southwell Fox Shinji, place lay.
Ta SE. |
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just watched that ones last couple of runs DP.
disappointing last time the way the 2nd came past it, that one having been shoved along a long way out with Fox Shinji who travelled better not finding a huge amount. |
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Iron Heart 2.35 South ( Back in time )
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Yeah SE, I backed it, very disappointing, has had very few runs so probably open to more improvement than most of these but worth taking on in a tight event.
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Hellos pick below SE:
Christopher robin place lay 15 50 bangor cheers striding Rate reply: | Everyone's starting posting on Thurs thread |
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I want to select TC's (have put a fred up on race).
but TC + support when I don't like it at all = alarm bells I just don't see where his runner suddenly travels early this trip without getting a bit behind and having to make up ground. Gut feeling is TC won't mind a no show and even a stuffed no show before going back up in trip again maybe back at wolves. |
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My fault the Thursday fred came back up as I put Posy down for sp rather than the taken price yesterday, had to correct it.
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s0d it learning curve and all that!
15:05 Sout Thunderoad (plc) As I've put some time into this race I may as well go with the hunch. |