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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.
How many selections must be made?
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.
The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection
Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.
Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?
You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.
Are win and place markets settled in the same way?
Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.
When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)
A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.
The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).
In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.
Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.
Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.
Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.
Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection
Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.
Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!
In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.
How are selections staked and returns calculated?
Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.
Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.
Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.
Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?
The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
How many selections must be made?
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.
The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection
Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.
Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?
You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.
Are win and place markets settled in the same way?
Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.
When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)
A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.
The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).
In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.
Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.
Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.
Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.
Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection
Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.
Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!
In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.
How are selections staked and returns calculated?
Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.
Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.
Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.
Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?
The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Last Day to enter this month is Wednesday.
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Sedge 1.55 Agent Westy
For the treble |
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8.30 Kempton Stynes.
Sub. 8.30 Kempton Stynes, place market. Thank you. |
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14.10 Market Rasperry Supakalanistic place
Sub:20.30 Kempton Star of Athena place Thank you |
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Pray For A Rainbow - 4.05 Sedgefield Place Market
Cheers Striding |
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home before dusk - 6.30 kempton place lay
ty striding |
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Lord P
thanks striding. |
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4.50 Kempton Park |
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Roxyfet 3.00 Sedgefield please se
Sub 1 : Kerrkenny Gold 2.25 Sedgefield Sub 2 : Rostello 3.30 Sedgefield Thanks, Mad. |
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Ouro Branco - 3.00 Sedgefield
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The mighty don Market Rasen 1.40
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The Mighty Don 1:40 Market Rasen
Thanks SE Thinking the same flush  |
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15.30 Sedge Let The Heirs Walk place lay sub1 14.25 Sedge Kerrkenny Gold place sub2 19.30 Kemp Allegiant place
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Sedge.3-00 Roxypet @5.2 cheers stride...
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Mcfabulous 2.44 Market Rasen 15-15 Thanks SE.
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3.50 Market Rasen Quantem of Solice @ 3.05
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The Mighty Don - 1.40 Market Rasen
Good luck all |
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Ilhabela Fact - 7.30 Kempton (2.96)
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giovanni tiepolo 16.50kem @5.6
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Market Rasen 14:45 Balgemmois - Place. Many thanks SE.
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2.45S Kerrykenny Gold 2TBP
Reserve 3.15MR Hijack Thanks Striding |
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Home Before Dusk - 6.30 Kem
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1.40 Market Rasen | The Mighty Don | 2.12 (LPM)
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Many Thx Striding....
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2.25 Sedgefield
Evander 2.34 Lpm Was away numbers are down a little last three days bit of a blurrr new format seems good and the bit of tweaking appears to make it far more manageableable for striding gd luck woth ur selections im pinning my hopes on Ollie Murphys horse bumper form 2nd bt sh to Abracadabras who after was in 2nd running through the rail in leop bumper won by Envoie Allen |
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18.00 Kempton Law of Peace
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Sedgefield 2.25 Kerrkenny Gold
Sub : Sedgefield 3.50 Let the Heirs Walk Thanks Stride |
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The Mighty Don 1,40 market rasen,,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ very bad jumper ,,and you have to be able to jump to win races ,,this horse cant ,, sub Hometown Boy 3,15 market rasen |
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Sign of War. 4-05 Sedgefield @ 5.2.
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Striding Edge, just noticed that OilyWragg has posted his selection Stynes in the 8.30 Kempton, with the same horse as a Sub in the place market! Don't think he's quite got the gist of this substitute lark!
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I hadn't looked at the market Stew assumed it was a confident win lay bordering on the price perhaps going off too big reverting to a place but having just looked at the win price.
 He posted last night when market had beans matched price gone way out. |
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Home Before Dusk-6.30 Kempton-2 place market.
Thanks SE. |
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Place price on that one even dodgy now.
This is an example of why the early market can't often be fairly used as a ref on getting matched at those early prices so proof needed. Not one single bet been posted early to take an early price yet but at least the option is there. |
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Morning Striding
Hoping to up my game, shabby start so far Home before dusk 630 kempton Reserve Let the heirs walk 330 sedge |
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I just assumed you had to pick a different horse if yours became a NR, my mistake by the look of it as you say could get the place price matched.
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I would think a very rare play Stew but ok with it rules wise as it could be voided on price but still switched legitimately for place.
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Stick with it Lucky Luciano nice to see some new players this month, I'm sure we all want to win or get in that red zone in the table but it's a bit of fun at the end of the day UNLESS I WIN of course but you could get a big price on that presently.
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Smugglers Blues 2.45 M/R 5.4
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Ultimate Avenue - 6.30 Kempton place lay
Res Allegiant - 7.30 Kempton place lay Thanks |